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Journal of The Royal Television Society
                                                                                                                 May 2022 l Volume 59/5

    From the CEO
                       Whether it’s crime,            show for the British and other markets.                          I was pleased to see so many of you
                       period or relationship            In case you hadn’t noticed, these are                      at the British Museum for a lively eve-
                       drama, TV’s scripted           interesting times for those who work                          ning with the brilliant Stacey Dooley,
                       boom continues to              in Westminster, either as MPs or jour-                        who previewed the new series of
                       thrill audiences. Our          nalists. Caroline Frost’s profile of the                      ­Stacey Dooley Sleeps Over. The occasion
                       cover story this month         BBC’s new political editor, Chris                              was a reminder that unscripted shows
                       features the eagerly           Mason, is a must-read. With 15-hour                            are also experiencing a purple patch.
     awaited Conversations with Friends, an           days and constant scrutiny on social                             Finally, do please read Graeme
     adaptation of Sally Rooney’s book                media, this isn’t a job for the faint-                         Thompson’s feature on the Gateshead-­
     – her first – which she wrote prior to           hearted. We wish him well.                                     based company Signpost, which has
     Normal People, a huge hit for the BBC.              Michael Grade will soon be taking                           proved itself to be a model of diversity
     I, for one, can’t wait to watch it.              over as the new Chair of Ofcom. Steve                          and inclusion by employing a high
         Talking of adaptations, don’t miss           Clarke surveys Michael’s extraordi-                            proportion of people who are deaf or
     Simon Shaps’s thoughts on the ardu-              nary career and considers the chal-                            have a disability.
     ous art of the adaptation.                       lenges he will face in his new role.
         He offers sage advice to those con-             His arrival at Ofcom will coincide
     sidering rebooting literary works for            with a new Media Bill. Inside, we
     TV – or, as is the case with Amazon              present a summary of the main points
     Prime’s London-based Ten Percent,                of the broadcasting white paper, pub-
     remodelling a Paris-based hit TV                 lished last month.                                            Theresa Wise

Contents
                                                                                                                            Cover: Conversations with Friends (BBC)

 5            Shaminder Nahal’s TV Diary
              From red carpets to the Venice Biennale, Shaminder
              Nahal admires some exceptionally talented women                         16              Breaking down barriers
                                                                                                      Signpost Productions’ employment of deaf and disabled
                                                                                                      people is a model of diversity, says Graeme Thompson

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              Comfort Classic: Cracker
              Steve Clarke is gripped by a groundbreaking crime show
              that made a star of Robbie Coltrane                                     18              A+E’s fresh twist on true crime
                                                                                                      Novelists Mark Billingham and Douglas Skelton offer
                                                                                                      their take on the UK’s most notorious crimes

 7            Ear Candy: Better Call Saul Insider Podcast
              Harry Bennett enjoys a real film school of a podcast,
              which delights in deconstructing the show’s cinematic
              sequences
                                                                                      21              Our Friend in the North
                                                                                                      The Government’s broadcasting reforms are not what
                                                                                                      indies outside of London wanted, warns Andrew Sheldon

 8            Working Lives: Editor
              Award-winning drama editor Sarah Brewerton reveals
              the highs and lows of the role with Matthew Bell
                                                                                      22              The art of adaptation
                                                                                                      As Amazon Prime’s Ten Percent debuts, Simon Shaps
                                                                                                      shares some home truths with those seeking to remake
                                                                                                      a hit show for another market

10            Difficult conversations
              A lot is riding on the new Sally Rooney adaptation
              Conversations with Friends. Matthew Bell uncovers
              the project’s complex genesis
                                                                                      24              The unlikely regulator
                                                                                                      Steve Clarke profiles Michael Grade as he prepares to
                                                                                                      become Ofcom’s new Chair

12            Blood, sweat and Stacey
              TV natural Stacey Dooley gives RTS Futures her account
              of her current series, Stacey Dooley Sleeps Over
                                                                                      26              Football’s darkest hour
                                                                                                      Floodlights, pulls no punches in depicting the childhood
                                                                                                      sexual abuse of Andy Woodward, reports Shilpa Ganatra

14            The people’s political editor
              Caroline Frost finds out how Chris Mason is likely to
              approach one of the toughest jobs in news journalism
                                                                                      28              The broadcasting white paper at a glance
                                                                                                      New legislation will aim to create a level playing field
                                                                                                      between the UK’s public service broadcasters and their
                                                                                                      global rivals such as Netflix and Amazon Prime Video

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TV diary
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                         o one can take                                                              evening, at the Navy Officers’ Club,
                         their eyes off                                                              an artist is being interviewed live
                         Olivia Colman,                                                              in the courtyard, two men holding
                         fabulous in a                                                               microphones and vodka cocktails.
                         black tuxedo and                                                            “What do you think is the sexiest
                         thick eyeliner. I’m                                                         period in art history? I like Ancient
                         at the Bafta Tele-                                                          Greece…” “That’s a very difficult
   vision Craft Awards with my colleague                                                             question… I guess, if I had to pick, it

                                                                                         Channel 4
   Ngozi Ubaka. I spot Sophie Willan,                                                                would be New York in the 1970s.”
   and can’t resist telling her what a fan
   I am of the RTS-award-winning                                                                      ■ Might it be Birmingham? “I
   Alma’s Not Normal. Gratifyingly, she                                                               always have a great time in this city
   says she loves Grayson’s Art Club.
      I catch a word with Jack Thorne, and
                                                 From red carpets to                                  and suspect it may be the coolest
                                                                                                      place in the UK.” That’s a quote by
   Ruth Madeley, so brilliant in the recent      the Venice Biennale,                                 ­Grayson Perry on the press release
   Then Barbara Met Alan. We discuss the                                                               to announce the next Grayson’s
   exciting project she and I are working          Shaminder Nahal                                     Art Club exhibition, opening at the
   on together, which I can’t yet reveal.       admires exceptionally                                  ­Midlands Arts Centre in December.
                                                                                                          The exhibitions have been a huge
   ■ Director Poppy Begum is nomi-                 talented women                                       success. The show at Manchester Art
   nated for Emerging Talent: Factual.                                                                  Gallery was one of the most popular
   Also with us are Emma Lysaght                                                                        of 2021, according to The Art News­
   and James Newton, nominated for,            Arsenale with art curator Jagdip Jagpal               paper. Bristol City Museum and
   respectively, Editing and Director          and creative director Jesse Ringham.                  ­Manchester Art Gallery attracted
   for our film Grenfell: The Untold Story,    Jamian, the brilliant New York artist,                 52,000 visitors by the end of March.
   also an RTS award nominee .                 arrives like a hurricane, in an over-
      Accepting his Bafta, James pays          sized blazer, and shows us her hair                   ■ Neil Crombie of Swan Films sends
   tribute to the survivors, saying they       extensions, unpicking them and                        me the first cut of Grayson’s Art Club:
   still haven’t got justice. You can          draping them over the man sitting                     Queen’s Jubilee Special. Viewing this
   watch the film on All 4. Like me, you       next to her.                                          show is one of the highlights of my
   probably won’t be able to forget it.           I bump into her again the next night               week – this episode includes Harry
   “There were two really, really long         at the Canada party on an island                      Hill’s tribute to the Queen featuring
   towers,” says Mehdi El-Wahabi, then         where Detroit DJ Carl Craig is playing.               a surprising body part.
   aged about seven, in the documen-           An American artist asks me if I have
   tary. Artist Constantine Gras had           any Adderall or coke. A Polish curator                ■ Thursday, the TX of Where Have
   filmed him drawing a mural at Gren-         says his museum has turned into a                     All the Lesbians Gone? Friday, the
   fell tower two years before the fire.       refugee centre for Ukrainians who                     launch of Richard Hammond’s Crazy
      Mehdi was one of 17 children to die      have fled across the border.                          Contraptions. Richard is on The One
   – a quarter of all the children who                                                               Show with a nerve-racking demo of
   lived in Grenfell. On the Westway, on       ■ The Biennale is like an elite art                   a chain-reaction machine.
   our way home in the cab, we pass the        Eurovision without the TV show.                          Meanwhile, at the Diva Awards,
   tower. I catch my breath.                   This year, the number of female                       Channel 4 wins Broadcaster of the
                                               artists represented feels genuinely                   Year, with the brilliant Lesbians team
   ■ “Shadows left over after your eye         groundbreaking. Simone Leigh is                       in attendance. Later, I’m at a concert
   looks away” – these words, by the           the first black woman to represent                    of new music by Mica Levi that feels
   artist Jamian Juliano-Villani describ-      the US, and Sonia Boyce, the first                    like haunting, twisted church music.
   ing moments in film that inspire her,       black woman to represent the UK.                      We await press for The Man with a
   are on a card on the wall next to her       Both win major prizes.                                Penis on His Arm.
   paintings at the Venice Biennale.
     I meet her there on a fleeting visit.     ■ Leigh’s enormous sculptures of the                  Shaminder Nahal is Channel 4’s head of
   I’m in a bar in a side street near the      female form are breathtaking. In the                  specialist factual.

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COMFORT CLASSIC

         Cracker
          Steve Clarke is gripped by
           a groundbreaking crime
            show that made a star
              of Robbie Coltrane
                                                                                                                                         ITV

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           t is hard now to convey the        – was truly a revelation. Incredibly,            McGovern acknowledged that part
           shocking originality of Cracker,   Cracker’s creator, the brilliant Jimmy       of his inspiration for writing Cracker
           the 1990s ITV crime series         McGovern, had originally envisaged           was the long-running American police
           that helped redefine the genre     his anti-hero as a wiry man like him-        show Columbo, whose eponymous
           and bring some genuine unpre-      self. He was overruled by the casting        central character was, like Fitz, a thor-
           dictability and real edge to       director and vowed never again to be         oughgoing slob. In one famous scene,
    Monday-­night, peak-time TV.              involved in a casting decision.              Coltrane impersonates Columbo, who
       At a stroke, Cracker made a star of       Cracker, one of Granada’s brightest       was played by Peter Falk.
    man mountain Robbie Coltrane, previ-      crown jewels, was the antidote to Miss           From the opening sequence of the
    ously known for his work in lighter       Marple, The Ruth Rendell Mysteries and all   first episode, initially broadcast in 1993,
    fare such as the BBC Two series Tutti     those other genteel Home Counties            we know that Fitz is a gambler and
    Frutti, in which he plays the singer in   murder mysteries that provide succour        a maverick. Lecturing to a group of
    a Scottish rock ’n’ roll band alongside   rather than sensation. The series’ ante-     ­psychology undergraduates, he hurls
    Emma Thompson and Richard Wilson.         cedents perhaps go back to Z Cars,            at them a succession of books written
       To see this erstwhile comic actor      another gritty, blue-collar Northern          by famous western thinkers whose
    become the scene-stealing, deeply         crime show that broke down taboos             speciality was the human condition.
    flawed forensic psychologist, Dr          and stereotypes in relation to the por-          “Spinoza, Descartes, Hobbes,” Fitz
    Edward Fitzgerald – Fitz to his friends   trayal of fictional law enforcers on TV.      snarls as each tome is thrown into the

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Ear candy
body of the lecture theatre. “Locke…
Freud.” The message is clear; if you
really want to learn about human
behaviour, then take a close look at
the dark heart that beats within us all.
    “Go and lock yourself in a room for a
couple of days, and study what is here,”
advises Fitz, tapping his heart. “The
things that you really feel, not all that
crap that you’re supposed to feel. And
when you’ve studied, when you’ve shed
a little light on the dark recesses of your
soul, that’s the time to pick up a book.”
    The inference is that one reason Fitz
is so valuable in helping the Manches-
ter police to solve their most challeng-
ing and vile murders is because of his
own self-knowledge that “there but for
the grace of God go I”. Not for nothing
was McGovern raised a Catholic.
    “I drink too much, I smoke too
much, I gamble too much, I am too
much,” Fitz declares, but it’s his think-
ing approach to solving crimes that
deliver results that elude conventional
police investigation. Not that Fitz
doesn’t make mistakes, too.
    “You’re an emotional rapist,” DS Jane
Penhaligon (Geraldine Somerville) tells
him in one of Cracker’s most famous
episodes, To Be a Somebody, in which
their boss, DCI David Bilborough
(Christopher Eccleston), is himself
murdered.
    Fitz is an unlikely sex symbol but,
over the course of Cracker’s three
­seasons, Fitz and Penhaligon pursue an
 unlikely love affair, while his marriage

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 to the very long-suffering Judith
 ­(Barbara Flynn) crumbles, partly due to
  his alcoholism and gambling.                                                  hen Better      school of a podcast. Now that the sixth
    In common with so many other                                                Call Saul       and final series of Better Call Saul is
  great shows, Cracker was something                                            was spun        underway, so, too, is the podcast.
  of an academy for future small- and                                           off from        Director Michael Morris and produc-
  big-screen talent. An early director on                                       Breaking       tion designer Denise Pizzini join the
  the series was Michael Winterbottom.                                          Bad in 2015,   first episode to share their parts in
  Nicola Shindler worked as a script                                            like its       the building and shooting of several
  editor on Cracker before setting up         predecessor, it became one of the most           elaborate sequences.
  Red, one of the 21st century’s most         ­cinematic series on TV.                            These include that grand opening,
  successful independent producers                  As a character study of another            laden with Easter eggs, in which we
  of scripted content.                         ­anti-hero in the Bad universe, crooked         witness the authorities repossessing
    Granada was thrilled when the US            ­lawyer Saul Goodman (played by Bob            Saul’s future “ego-house”.
  agreed to adapt Cracker, but, across the       Odenkirk), Better Call Saul is a firm            In episode 2, the always affable co-­
  Atlantic, Cracker was a commercial and         adherent of the “show, don’t tell”            creator Vince Gilligan (also the creator
  artistic flop. However, in the context of      ­philosophy. Every shot brims with            of Breaking Bad) holds court. He comes
  US TV, it is worth noting the verdict of        meaning and begs for deconstruction.         across as a fastidious ­director, admitting
  Den of Geek on what is unquestionably             AMC’s official Better Call Saul Insider    to filming 200 takes of one of the brief-
  a groundbreaking British series: “It            Podcast does just that, as series ­editors   est and most subtle of movements to
  shows the world that the UK was                 turned podcast presenters Chris              sell a particularly vital shot of a charac-
  capable of out-HBOing HBO even                  McCaleb and Kelley Dixon consult             ter giving away his presence.
  before HBO existed.” Too true. n                the heads of the various production             But sometimes that’s what it takes
                                                  departments to find out just how             to direct a series that is so quietly
Cracker is available on ITV Hub and               each episode came together. As one           ­eloquent. n
Amazon Prime.                                     reviewer on Apple put it, it’s a film         Harry Bennett

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Editor
    Channel 4

                  It’s a Sin

                               WORKING LIVES
                 Sarah Brewerton took the Editor               Gale-Coyne, calculated that we had           of Covid. On the fine cut, I worked side
                prize at the RTS Craft & Design Awards         135 hours of material, a ratio of 27 to      by side with Peter, whom I’ve worked
                2021 for her work on Russell T Davies’s        one for the length of the series.            with four times now, including on The
                superlative Aids drama, It’s a Sin. More         Sometimes, it feels as if you are          Last Kingdom for BBC Two.
                than a decade earlier, the drama editor        wading through so much material
                bagged the same award for Peter                – you spend as much time watching            Do you find you often work with the
                ­Moffat’s hard-hitting Criminal Justice.       as editing. It can feel overwhelming         same directors?
                                                               and you look forward to the day when         Who you work with is almost as impor-
                What does the job involve?                     a scene has been shot in one take!           tant as the show. Building relationships
                I take all the material the director shoots                                                 is key and you often work with the
                and figure out how to tell the story in        How long did it take to edit It’s a Sin?     same director again and again.
                the most compelling and emotionally            I started on the first day of shooting in
                gripping way. There’s this misunder-           October 2019 and worked from home in         How did you become an editor?
                standing that an editor’s job is simply        London during the whole show, which          I did fine art, painting and photogra-
                to cut out the bad bits; it’s the opposite     wrapped in January 2020. I had rushes        phy at university. I answered an ad
                – you’re actually building something.          sent to me from the shoot in and around      in the Evening Standard and got a job
                                                               Manchester, so I had four months to          in a TV marketing company as an
                What editing software do you use?              assemble the footage by myself.              office junior.
                I started just after the transition from          I then went to Manchester for the fine       The people were nice, but I didn’t
                film and I’ve always used Avid.                cut, and the first episode took just under   enjoy looking at things from the
                                                               four weeks to lock; the remaining four       ­outside. I didn’t want to market it,
                Do you regret missing out on film?             episodes took about three weeks each.         I wanted to make it!
                There’s a lot of nostalgia for editing film;   In total, it was around eight months.           I had a friend from university who
                it’s the same with photography. I see the                                                    had got a job as a runner at an editing
                magic of film, but it was a slower pro-        Which people do you work with                 company, Sam Sneade Editing, which
                cess. Using Avid allows you to access so       closely on a production?                      was looking for another runner – I got
                much material in far less time.                On It’s a Sin, it was director Peter Hoar,    an interview and the job. Sam’s an
                                                               creator/writer Russell T Davies, execu-       amazing commercial editor and
                Can there sometimes be too much                tive producer Nicola Shindler and             I worked for him for just under a year
                material?                                      producer Phil Collinson. We did a lot of      as a runner and then became a trainee
                On It’s a Sin, my assistant, Daniel            Zooming – we had no choice because            assistant editor.

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How did you break into TV?                         The route into editing drama is to         I’ve talked to lots of female editors,
I moved to Todd-AO in Camden [north             start as a trainee or a second assistant    and we all have stories of being pat-
London] and became an Avid assistant            editor (or a third assistant on a really    ronised or having assumptions made
and, via ­various generous editors, I           big production). But to even become a       about us – when a male assistant or
learned how to cut programmes. I                trainee, you will usually need industry     someone new comes into the editing
worked with Jake Bernard, who allowed           qualifications, though not necessarily      suite, they have often assumed that
me to practise on Jim Henson shows The          a university degree. Post-production        I’m the junior. I have been mistaken
Hoobs, Mopa­top’s Shop and Construction Site.   houses, where I started, are a great        for cast, not crew, too many times to
                                                place to learn and gain experience.         mention. I also don’t think there are
What was the first TV drama that
you edited?
An episode of Fox comedy drama Keen
Eddie with Sienna Miller and then the
Kudos crime series Hustle for BBC One.

What makes a good editor?
Aside from knowledge of Avid, which
is essential, patience and perseverance
are important. You also have to under-
stand the politics of the cutting room
and know when and how loudly to
voice your opinions.

What do you take to work with you?
Whether I’m at home or in an edit
suite, a computer with Avid software, a
phone, a big notebook and a pen – I’m
constantly writing notes and reminders.

What are the best and worst parts of
the job?
Recently, working on It’s a Sin, I could
see from the script that the story was
amazing – it doesn’t matter who you
are, what age or sexuality, it’s really
engaging and heartbreaking. It’s
brought back HIV and Aids into
­people’s consciousness, and the stigma
 so many people faced. The subsequent
 increase in HIV testing has been
 important, too.
   The worst parts of the job are the
 long hours and the intense nature of
 the work. I really need to wind down
 after a job.

What are your other favourites?
BBC One’s Life on Mars is one of the
best things I’ve worked on; I also really
                                                                                                                        Life on Mars
                                                                                                                                        BBC

enjoyed BBC One’s Criminal Justice and
BBC Three’s Don’t Take My Baby.
                                                As a woman of colour, do you think          enough people from working-class
What advice would you give to some-             editing is a diverse profession?            backgrounds in the industry.
one wanting to become an editor?                I’m afraid not, though it’s probably bet-
Everyone has a video camera on their            ter than some parts of the TV industry.     What genre would you love to work in?
phone, so you should really be able             It’s an ongoing problem, but one that is    I’d love to cut a musical – not that they
to practise editing. For drama, the             being looked at more than in the past.      should ever remake them, but I adore
industry standard software is Avid;             There are more female editors than          The Wizard of Oz and Bugsy Malone. n
for documentary and factual, Premiere           before, but not much ethnic diversity.
is used a lot, and free versions of both        I can count on one hand the number of       Sarah Brewerton was interviewed by
are available.                                  women of colour I’ve met in editing.        Matthew Bell.

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Difficult
                          conversations

                                                                                                               Conversations with Friends
                                                                                                                   (from left): Sasha Lane
                                                                                                                (Bobbi), Joe Alwyn (Nick),
                                                                                                               Alison Oliver (Frances) and
                                                                                                                   Jemima Kirke (Melissa)
 BBC

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                             ormal People was the                                               have predicted that a mass television
                             TV hit of the first     A lot is riding on the new                 audience would become hooked on it
                             Covid lockdown,
                             a comfort blanket of
                                                     Sally Rooney adaptation                    in that way.”
                                                                                                     Guiney admits that hits such as
                             a series that offered      Conversations with                      ­Normal People “don’t happen very
                             respite from what
     was a new and terrifying virus.
                                                      Friends. Matthew Bell                      often”, although when they do, he says,
                                                                                                 “they’re a complete joy – you [need to]
           Viewers tuned into Marianne and            uncovers the project’s                     just relish and cherish it. But neither
     Connell’s love story, adapted from                                                          can you expect that everything is going
     ­Sally Rooney’s second book, in huge                complex genesis                         to work [as well], either.”
      numbers. It became BBC Three’s                                                                 Quite. But has Normal People’s success
      ­biggest-ever series and the iPlayer’s         spring of the first lockdown…. If you       raised expectations of Conversations
       most popular show of 2020, racking up         remember, at that time, we didn’t           with Friends to unrealistic levels?
       more than 60 million streams in just          know the world wasn’t coming to an          ­Abrahamson replies: “We learned
       eight months. Worldwide, it won               end – it was crazy!” Arguably, times         a lot from doing Normal People, a way
       ­countless awards.                            are just as gloomy now, with the world       of working that suits this kind of
           Now, two years later, the same            watching appalled at Russia’s invasion       ­material… and we know there’s an
        ­producer that made Normal People,           of Ukraine and fearing where Putin’s          audience that’s really open to low-key
         Dublin’s Element Pictures, is bringing      mania may lead next.                          storytelling in television.”
         Rooney’s debut novel, Conversations            “We’ll be here to hold your hands for        Element Pictures had been develop-
         with Friends, to screen this month. No      all future global disasters,” chips in     ing Conversations with Friends as a movie
         pressure, then.                             Lenny Abrahamson, lead director and        with the then-director of BBC Film,
           The success of Normal People was          executive producer of both Normal          Rose Garnett, but, says Guiney:
         “genuinely a complete surprise”, recalls    People and Conversations with Friends.     “Through making Normal People, I think
         executive producer Ed Guiney. “And it          “We knew [Normal People] was very       we ­realised the way to adapt Conversa-
         was very nice as well – it was the          good, but I don’t think any of us would    tions was as a series.”

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Abrahamson continues: “We hadn’t             Joe Alwyn (Nick) was also quickly         as a director, it was really interesting to
cracked the film script and it just           cast in a process overseen (as with          be able to mine those relationships.”
seemed to make sense – those two              ­Normal People) by casting director Louise      Welham is a huge admirer of Abra-
books [share] an immersive character           Kiely. Alwyn had appeared alongside         hamson’s work; in particular, his dis-
development and interpersonal rela-            Olivia Colman in Yorgos Lanthimos’s         turbing coming-of-age film What Richard
tionships that work so well on tele­           award-winning film The Favourite, and       Did. “He brings a nuance and subtlety
vision. For a film, you have to conflate       in Joanna Hogg’s acclaimed The Souvenir     to what he does, which is in line with
and concentrate – and then I don’t             Part II, both co-produced by Guiney.        the way I approach things,” she says.
think you do the characters justice.             The principal cast is completed by           She explains why she thinks
    “People [have an] ability to watch         Texas-born actor Sasha Lane (Star in        ­Conversations with Friends will echo with
[TV] novelistically. If you can pull           American Honey) playing Bobbi and            audiences: “When I read this book,
[them] in and they connect with the            Jemima Kirke (head teacher Hope              I wished I had [been able to] read it
characters, you can take them on a
very intricate journey [that] holds their
attention. That was the thing that most
surprised all of us about Normal People.”
    Guiney adds: “If we’d made Normal
People in exactly the same way… but
made a film, it would have been
a ­festival darling, played some art
houses, got some nice reviews – and
would have made a much smaller
impact, even on its TV broadcast.
    “It’s weird that you can bring all of
those sensibilities and instincts of an
art-house film-maker to a piece of tele-
vision and it becomes a mainstream hit.”
    As novels, Normal People and Conversa-
tions with Friends share some character-
istics: both mine relationships and are
replete with dialogue, real and internal.
But, explains Abrahamson, Normal
People “is a love story, pure and simple”.
Conversations with Friends is a more
complex book, set in the wake of the
2008 economic crisis – “what now
                                               Conversations with Friends

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feels like the quaint, happy time of a
global financial crash,” he says, wryly.
    You could describe the plot, not            Haddon in Sex Education) as Melissa.       when I was younger. Frances is a
entirely inaccurately, as a ménage à               Alice Birch, who worked on Normal       ­character who I really saw myself in,
quatre: Frances and Bobbi, once girl-           People, returns with a new team of          certainly. She doesn’t have all the
friends, are now best friends perform-          adapters: Mark O’Halloran, Meadhbh          answers and she makes mistakes.
ing at poetry nights in Dublin. Married         McHugh and Susan Soon He Stanton.              “It would have been fascinating for me
couple Melissa, a photographer, and                Abrahamson directed the first five       to see – and maybe helpful to under-
Nick, an actor, are a decade older than         and final two episodes of the series,       stand – that I wasn’t the only person…
the two students they befriend. But,            which was largely shot in Belfast and       not knowing what the hell I was doing
while Bobbi and Melissa flirt, Frances          Dublin. Croatia, with a lower incidence     when I was 21. So, I think these charac-
and Nick embark on a secret affair.             of Covid, stood in for France as the        ters will resonate with people.
    Frances, the show’s key role, is played     book’s holiday destination.                    “But you don’t have to have been
by newcomer Alison Oliver, who grad-               Second director Leanne Welham            a 21-year-old woman to understand
uated from The Lir National Academy             made the highly regarded 2018 feature       what Frances is going through, [it’s] a
of Dramatic Art in Dublin in 2020. “We          Pili, about a Tanzanian woman strug-        very human show about human emo-
saw Alison early on,” recalls Guiney.         gling to feed her children, much              tions and anyone can relate to that.”
“Like Paul [Mescal] from Normal People,       admired by Abrahamson and Guiney.                Will Conversations with Friends match
she just popped [out] from a bunch of              “I was very excited as a big fan of      Normal People’s success? “Normal People
tapes. It was a very quiet reading, very      Rooney’s novels and I actually pre-           came out [during lockdown] where,
confident in its low-keyness – it wasn’t      ferred Conversations with Friends to          arguably, people wanted more inti-
showy at all.”                                ­Normal People,” Welham says. “The           macy,” says Abrahamson. “When we
    Abrahamson takes up the story:             story, characters and relationships in      come out, God knows what state
“We then read her with other people            ­Conversations feel a bit more messy        things are going to be in.” n
because we were also looking at                 and complicated, which drew me to it.
ensemble [scenes]. We knew we were              I really like stories that explore those   Conversations with Friends airs on
going to cast her long before she knew,         difficult areas between people.            Sunday 15 May on BBC Three, with all
like Paul.”                                        “There’s a lot going on and, for me     12 episodes available on BBC iPlayer.

Television www.rts.org.uk May 2022                                                                                                         11
I                                                      Blood, sweat
             ntrepid and armed with a fear-
             some work ethic, Stacey Dooley
             seems to be on a one-woman
             mission to popularise current
             affairs for a new generation of

                                                             and Stacey
             young viewers.
        Dooley made her TV debut in 2008 as
     a contributor on BBC Three documen-
     tary series Blood, Sweat and T-Shirts, one of
     six fashion consumers living and work-
     ing alongside Indian garment workers
     making cheap clothes for the UK.
        It was obvious she was a TV natural.
     Within a year, she had her own BBC
                                                            TV natural Stacey Dooley gives RTS Futures
     Three show, Stacey Dooley Investigates,                     her account of her current series,
     which, for more than a decade, has
     seen her travel the world: to Russia to                        Stacey Dooley Sleeps Over
     film an exposé of domestic violence; to
     Japan to report on the sexualisation of
     children; and to Nigeria to talk to
     young women forced to become sui-
     cide bombers. She has also reported
     for Panorama and made films on arms
     dealers and Isis. Fearless doesn’t cover
     the half of it.
        There’s a softer side too: fronting
     CBBC shows Show Me What You’re Made
     of and The Pets Factor, judging RuPaul’s
     Drag Race UK and even winning Strictly
     Come Dancing.
        Her current project is Stacey Dooley
     Sleeps Over, now in its third series. At
     an RTS Futures event at the British
     Museum, Dooley spoke about the pro-
     gramme and her career. “I remember
     the guy who gave me my first gig – he
     was so generous because I obviously
     wasn’t an established journo; I was this
     sort of mouthy, opinionated girl from
     Luton Airport.
        “It was such sound advice. He said:
     ‘Look, there’ll be a temptation to con-
     form and feel like you need to sound
     the same as everyone else and dress
     the same as everyone else. There are
     thousands of journos [like that] – if
     that’s what I wanted, I would have gone
     to them. I like that you are inquisitive
     and have something to say.’ ”
        A little over a decade later and
     Dooley has her own production com-
     pany, Little Dooley. “I’m now talking
     about risk assessments and on the
     phone to Blackpool council about
     drone shots, which is really dull, but it’s
     a good learning curve for me,” she said.
        In Mum Fighting the Clock – episode 3
     of the current series of Stacey Dooley
     Sleeps Over, which was premiered at the
     RTS event – Dooley spends time with
     Jemma McGowan and her family.
     McGowan, an almost impossibly upbeat
                                                                                          Stacey Dooley Sleeps Over:
     mum from County Tyrone, is living with
                                                     UKTV

                                                                                             Mum Fighting the Clock
     a terminal diagnosis of ovarian cancer.

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Dooley doesn’t shy away from ask-           presenters have alluded to the idea           will ask you the difficult questions’, so
ing difficult questions about death and        that they’re staying, and [in fact] they      they are aware that there isn’t going to
McGowan’s belief in alternative medi-          go and stay in a five-star hotel.”            be a subject that’s off limits,” explained
cine, but there are also moments of joy.          Dooley is hugely grateful that families    Bowden. The families also see their
   “A lazy approach would be to spend          open themselves up for TV. “They’re           episode pre-broadcast, in the company
the entire time in an earnest manner,          such good sports,” she said. “If the telly    of Bowden. “People are generally happy
talking about death,” said Dooley.             called me and said, ‘Stacey, we’d like to     with the [final] programme,” she said.
“While those conversations are neces-          come and stay around your house.                 A member of the RTS Futures audi-
sary, she is [a woman] in her twenties         There’ll be five of use, there’ll be two      ence wondered whether meeting
with lots to say. Instinctively, I think her   cameras and we’ll be asking you deeply        Jemma McGowan while filming Mum
natural default is that she’s an optimist,     personal questions – are you up for it?’      Fighting the Clock had provoked any
so I’m delighted we showed that.”              I’d be like, ‘absolutely not’, so I never,    changes in Dooley’s own life. She
   Stacey Dooley Sleeps Over first aired on    ever, ever take it for granted.… It’s never   replied: “For the last couple of years,
W in 2019 and runs to 16 episodes, all         a given that [people] are going to allow      I’ve been having this weird existential
available on VoD service UKTV Play.            us in.”                                       crisis where I’m terrified of dying.… I
Dooley’s personal favourites include              Nevertheless, there is sometimes           don’t know why because, to my
weekends spent with a Mormon family            what Dooley refers to as “rub”; occa-         knowledge, everything is fine.”
in Greater Manchester, and, most of all,
Rabbi Mordechai Wollenberg and his               Stacey Dooley Sleeps Over:
ultra-orthodox family. “I’ve got such a          Strictly Orthodox Jews
soft spot for Mordechai… [he] was such
a gent,” said Dooley.
   She described Stacey Dooley Sleeps
Over as a “unique format”, adding: “I
think it’s healthy and necessary to
hang out with people who you don’t
always understand or agree with
because, increasingly, we surround
ourselves with people who nod along
at the same time as us.”
   The series is shot over a long week-
end. “As film-makers, sometimes we
can [think we’re] tortured artists, [want-
ing] weeks and weeks and weeks [to
film]. Actually, we get there on a Friday,
we leave on the Monday and we’ve
never made a duff film yet,” said Dooley.
   “It’s a good discipline, making a film
in 72 hours,” added executive producer
Alice Bowden, who has worked on the

                                                                                                                                           UKTV
series since day one – first as series
producer, now as executive producer.
She is one of a production crew of five,       sionally, “quite a lot of rub”. Two epi-         In fact, she added, personally and
which includes two camera operators,           sodes stand out: The British Lion King, in    professionally, “things couldn’t be
in what must be a crowded house.               which she stayed with a family that           going better. So, spending time with
   Offering proof – such as Dooley             kept two lions and a puma in their back       Jemma reminded me, and I don’t want
brushing her teeth or getting into bed         garden and probed them about animal           to sound too much of a cliché, that
– that the presenter is actually sleep-        welfare; and The Family                                         every single day, you’ve
ing over is “critical”, said UKTV’s head       Without Rules, whose                                            got to go for it. When I
of factual and factual entertainment,          aversion to modern             ‘THE WORST                       came home, I was due
Hilary Rosen, who commissions the
series for the W channel.
                                               medicine ran up
                                               against Dooley’s per-
                                                                                THEY CAN                       a smear test; I made
                                                                                                               sure I had the smear
   “I always worry that there’s a large        sonal experience of             DO IS KICK                      test and asked them to
degree of cynicism among the audi-
ence and that [they] will assume that
                                               seeing children die
                                               from malaria.                    YOU OUT’                       check every­thing else
                                                                                                               while I was there. It’s a
these things have been manufactured               “It’s my job and I                                           bit of a predictable
to suit the people making the pro-             hate the idea of getting                                        answer, but that’s what
gramme and that corners have been              in the car [to go home] and thinking,         [Jemma] will do for lots of people.” n
cut. So, I always think it’s important         ‘You should have asked that’. So, I
that it’s very, very clear visually to the     always bite the bullet. The worst they        ‘Stacey Dooley Sleeps Over screening
audience that [Stacey is] there for those      can do is kick you out,” said Dooley. So      and Q&A’ was held at the British Museum
72 hours.”                                     far, they haven’t.                            on 21 April. The producer was Kelly
   Dooley added: “I get that cynicism             The families can’t say they haven’t        Phelps, senior publicist at UKTV.
because we’ve heard before that                been warned. “We always say, ‘Stacey          n See the full video at: bit.ly/RTS-Dooley.

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The people’s
                       political editor
     Caroline Frost finds out
       how Chris Mason is
     likely to approach one
     of the toughest jobs in
         news journalism

     I
               n 2018, Chris Mason stood
               outside the Houses of Parlia-
               ment to give his opinion on the
               never-ending Brexit negotia-
               tions. He told the BBC Breakfast
               audience: “To be quite honest,
     looking at things right now, I haven’t
     got the foggiest idea what is going to
     happen in the coming weeks. Is the
     Prime Minister going to get a deal with
     the EU? Dunno. Is she going to be able
     to get it through the Commons? Don’t
     know about that either.
        “I think you might as well get Mr
     Blobby back on to offer his analysis,
     because, frankly, I suspect his is now
     as good as mine.”
        For veteran political journalist and
     broadcaster Iain Dale, that moment
     represented the best of Mason; it was

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     “a refreshing change to hear someone
     admitting they don’t have the answer.
     It’s that honesty people will admire
     and relate to in his new job.”
        That new job is, of course, arguably the
     country’s biggest in news journalism.
     Twenty years after this self-professed         journalist believes Mason missed out          Sky News’s political editor, Beth
     “political geek” gained his first BBC job      initially due to his radio and podcast-     Rigby, points out that Mason’s appoint-
     in Newcastle, and with more than              ing skills. “That means there are some      ment provides continuity at a time of
     a decade at Westminster, including            people at Westminster far more inter-       change for the BBC: “There is a lot of
     stints for BBC Radio 5 Live and               ested in TV, for whom he would never        change going on, people leaving, a new
     Radio 4’s Westminster Hour, plus report-      have been first, second or third choice,”   boss [Deborah Turness] coming in.
     ing from Brussels and recently hosting        he says. “He goes into this job knowing     Chris has been there for two decades,
     Any ­Questions?, Mason this month steps       that he has to work on some key rela-       he knows how the BBC works, he’s
     into Laura Kuenssberg’s shoes as the          tionships internally.”                      a brand and a name. That is quite
     BBC’s political editor.                           Former director of BBC News             ­reassuring for an organisation that’s
        His appointment follows a quagmire         ­Richard Sambrook, takes a more posi-        gone through a lot of change.”
     of a recruitment process, which saw            tive view: “We know what we read              She adds: “He’s a great journalist,
     two external, female candidates short-         about him being invited back into the       a brilliant communicator. In that role,
     listed before the job was readvertised         process, but that indicates how careful     your first and foremost job is to distil for
     and finally given to the popular BBC           they were about getting the right per-      the nation what’s going on in Westmin-
     staffer. One BBC senior political              son for the job.”                           ster and why it matters…. These sorts of

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jobs, and I include mine, have changed         on the side of viewers and listeners.”        a mouthpiece for the Government. He’ll
in the past decade – from someone                Mason told Dale that he has never           have to pull in stories from all around
almost detached from the viewer,               had a long-term plan for his career.          Westminster – with more focus on
operating in an ivory tower in this            Instead, he likes to grab opportunities       what Labour are doing, because they
rarefied world – to being much more            when they arise. Of late, this proactive      could be in power in two years’ time,”
about how politics relates to people.          attitude has served him well. Not least,      says a BBC News insider.
     “Chris is very good at that. He’s         in 2019, when he succeeded the                  Sambrook agrees that keeping to
down to earth, he’s relatable, he prides       long-serving Jonathan Dimbleby as the         an independent, middle ground has
himself on being a very real Yorkshire-        chair of Radio 4’s Any Questions?. And        become increasingly hard for ­political
man, and that’s what the BBC needs.”           in 2017, with the surprise triumph of         journalists. “It’s very difficult to survey
     Simon Bucks, Chair of the RTS             the podcast Brexitcast, the brainchild of     neutral, central positions because no one
­Television Journalism Awards, formerly        Mason and his colleague Adam Flem-            accepts the legitimacy of that,” he says.
 of ITN and Sky and now CEO at BFBS,
 agrees: “He is incredibly user-friendly,
 a perceptive and fluent analyst. Will
 he bring in stories? Don’t know. His
 predecessors have all had a stable of
 contacts to inform their reporting and
 analysis. It depends what Tim Davie
 and Deborah Turness want from the
 role in the new era.”
     According to a BBC colleague, this
 audience-facing warmth is the genu-
 ine article. “He’s collaborative, not
 competitive, extremely down to earth,
 and hardworking. His strength is good
 political judgement and a warm and
 original style, a way of looking at
 ­stories and connecting them to the
  public. And he has a great turn of
  phrase that brings these stories to life.”
     Dale remembers meeting Mason
  on the latter’s first day at Millbank,
  more than a decade ago. “He was
  very self-­deprecating and friendly,
                                                                                                 Chris Mason with his predecessor as
  and I’m pleased to say he hasn’t                                                              BBC political editor, Laura Kuenssberg

                                                                                                                                            BBC
  changed remotely.”
     Much of Mason’s unique style lies
  in his accent, unmistakably that of a        ing. It started out small and is now the          Rigby doesn’t think this is as hard as
  man brought up in Grassington in the         unmissable Newscast. “For a­while BBC         people maintain: “As long as you know
  Yorkshire Dales. Although he told Dale,      management weren’t interested                 you’re being impartial and balanced,
  in a podcast in 2020, that his early         because it hadn’t been dreamed up by          that’s the bread and butter. If you’re
  bosses had warned him his voice              suits,” says a colleague.                     getting it from both sides, you’re
  would prohibit a career in broadcasting,        “But what they did was a clever way        ­probably doing something right.
  Mason now joins those who believe it         of presenting an accessible but deep              “The bigger task is calling the stories,
  is a cracking asset, for him and for the     dive into the political minefield… that        making sure in this cacophony of
  BBC in its aim to reach audiences            didn’t talk down to the listener. They         noise to pick the things that matter to
  beyond the southern bubble. He told          showed management how you could                your audience, and asking the right
  Dale: “Radio stations needs a sound like     do good podcasting.”                           question when you get the chance.”
  the audience we’re broadcasting to. You         Observers agree that the challenges            So how does Mason see the job? “The
  need that range. I’m a middle-aged,          that lie ahead for Mason are plentiful:        thing I’m most looking forward to, the
  middle-class white bloke who went to         political, with an ever-more polarised         thing that makes the job a colossal
  Oxbridge. But I just happen to have a        landscape; physical, with 15-hour days         privilege – and huge responsibility – is
  Yorkshire accent. Whenever I go back,        the norm, and an increased scrutiny, no        the essence of what it is all about: being
  I get ribbed the whole time: ‘You sound      small thanks to social media, that Rigby       a trusted guide to what is going on and
  like a posh southerner.’”                    says knocked her off guard initially.          what matters. I can’t wait.”
     A BBC colleague agrees that it will          Mason describes himself as “never              Nobody doubts that Mason’s hunger
  serve employer and employee: “It fits        particularly political, and the longer I’ve    for those stories remains unabated. As
  in with the Director-General’s vision to     done the job, the more detached I’ve           Bucks says: “He undoubtedly has the
  have much of the BBC based out of            become from even thinking about it”.           personality for the role. He’s a warm,
  London. It won’t be why he got the role      This will be tested in a job that involves     come-hither sort of person and if he
  but, if he does the job well, he can         being almost umbilically attached to           can use that to develop the contacts he
  capitalise on the fact he’s from York-       Number 10. “It’s very tribal, and the          needs, he will be a very effective polit-
  shire to present an everyman who’s           trickiest part is to avoid sounding like       ical editor.” n

Television www.rts.org.uk May 2022                                                                                                            15
A
                          t a time when
                          ­producers and broad-
                           casters are working
                           hard to ensure diver-
                           sity in their workforce
                           as well as on screen,
      the team at Signpost Productions in the
      North East of England can claim to be
      ahead of the curve. Eleven of the com-
     pany’s 23 full-time staff are deaf or
     have another disability – physical,
     chronic or hidden. Between them, they
     produce more than 1,000 hours of
     signed British Sign Language (BSL)
     translations a year for programming on
     three major broadcasters, including ITV.
         The company also makes original
                                                            Signing ITV News
                                                     ITV

     content, such as Robson and Jim’s
     ­Icelandic Fly Fishing Adventure (ITV4) and

                                                                        Breaking
      Dare Master (CITV), at Signpost’s studios
      in Gateshead, next door to the ITV
      Tyne Tees newsroom. Dare Master is
      signed-presented by a deaf presenter
      and uses a predominantly deaf crew

                                                                         down
      – but sits in the schedule without being
      tagged as such. It is a fully accessible
      programme made for, and watched by,
      a mainstream audience.
         Increasingly, the company is also

                                                                        barriers
      working for commercial non-broad-
      cast clients and is much in demand to
      deliver diversity training to pro-
      gramme teams across the UK.
         Managing Director Kenny Toal is
      proud of his team: “Signpost has been
      breaking down barriers for years and,
      at the same time, flying the flag for the
      North East. Diversity is in our DNA. We
                                                                 Signpost Productions’ employment of deaf
      really do stand for production without                     and disabled people is a model of diversity.
      prejudice. It’s a privilege for all of us
      working here to be the custodians of                         Graeme Thompson explains its success
      such a unique working environment.
         “Accessibility is at the heart of the             of ITV’s disability network, ITV Able.      with deaf awareness training. She
      production office and studios – you can                 Gillian Harrison is another staffer      recently worked as an advisor to
      work effectively here whether you’re                 who readily shares her experience and       the Coronation Street production team,
      using a wheelchair or have hearing or                insights with others in the sector. Until   ­helping it develop a BSL storyline and
      visual impairments. Deaf directors,                  eight years ago she worked for a local       ­providing deaf awareness training to
      such as Seb Cunliffe, work alongside                 council but, after retraining, she is now     the cast and crew.
      interpreters while wheelchair users,                 one of three on-screen presenters and            “Everyone here at Signpost has
      such as technician Stu Coulson, operate              is the diversity lead with Signpost.          ­talent and we make sure we put in
      specially adapted equipment. Coul-                      Alongside her production duties,            the right support to allow that talent
      son’s success in the role has resulted               Harrison, who is deaf, has helped              to be seen,” she says. “When we’re
      in him being appointed Co-chair                      a host of broadcasters and producers           out filming, nobody questions if the

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Dare Master            started coming back to the studio after
                                                                     tackles industrial         lockdown, the hearing staff were a bit
                                                                     window cleaning            rusty when it came to their own use of
                                                                                                BSL to converse with deaf colleagues.
                                                                                                “People were forgetting because they
                                                                                                hadn’t been using it so much,” she
                                                                                                recalls. “So we had to put on refresher
                                                                                                sessions.”
                                                                                                   Gareth Deighan, creative director at
                                                                                                Signpost, believes the innovations and
                                                                                                workarounds achieved by the team
                                                                                                during the pandemic are a good illus-
                                                                                                tration of the company’s commitment
                                                                                                to access for all. “We’re surrounded by
                                                                                                incredibly talented people,” he says.
                                                                                                “Some of them require different kinds
                                                                                                of support to enable them to do their
                                                                                                job. But that’s OK because they’re
                                                                                                really good at what they do.
                                                                                                   “It can take more thought at the
                                                                                                pre-production stage about transport,
                                                                                                interpreters and access issues. But the
                                                                                                quality on screen speaks for itself.”
                                                                                                   Recruitment is largely from the
                                                                                                North East and managers ensure they
                                                                                                reach under-represented communities
                                                                                          ITV

                                                                                                when advertising vacancies. The result
                                                                                                is a multi-­skilled, multi-­ethnic group
director is deaf and using an interpreter.   ing online and in the daytime on Film4.            of programme-makers.
Everyone is treated equally. I’ve always        “Not all deaf people can read Eng-                 “We give new starters the training,
felt included.” Being an in-vision           lish,” explains Harrison. “BSL is their            mentoring and experience they need to
signer isn’t without its challenges. She     first language. So, without BSL transla-           succeed,” says Deighan. “We’re trying to
says: “Quiz shows can be tricky. The         tion, they were finding it difficult to            level the playing field for people who
most difficult one for me was Winning        keep up with the rules and restrictions            may not otherwise get the chance.”
Combination on ITV. The questions and        during the pandemic. The briefings                    Signpost, which is wholly owned by
answers come very fast!”                     from Downing Street didn’t have                    ITV, grew out of an access service in
   There are also issues when the signer     ­signers. When so many people at that              the days when signed and subtitled
has to interpret very dramatic, intimate      time were wearing masks, you couldn’t             programmes were buried in the sched-
or emotional content. “I’m a mother           even lip-read.                                    ule. Now, the company sees itself as a
and I am very emotional by nature,”             “The bulletins were about three                 mainstream commercial producer
says Harrison. “Some programme                minutes long and brought viewers up               with ambitions to play a key role in the
content is difficult. I’ve had to stop        to date with what was happening. It               expansion of the North East screen
recording on several occasions because        was a worrying and confusing time for             sector.
I realise I am crying. It happened to me      people. We were shocked at how many                  “We’re very excited about the buzz in
with Long Lost Family and a documen-          were accessing these bulletins. The               the area right now,” says Deighan. “We
tary about conjoined twins.”                  numbers were eye-popping.”                        know the BBC and other broadcasters
   The team faced one of its most               Another hurdle in working from                  are investing heavily in content from
daunting challenges in lockdown in            home was downloading the pro-                     here and there are plans for new film
2020. Unable to use their usual ­studios,     grammes ready for signing. Harrison               studios. We want to be part of that.” n
the signers improvised from home to           relied on rural broadband, so had to
produce a daily news digest for the BSL       wait up to 10 hours to access longer              Graeme Thompson is Chair of the RTS
Broadcasting Trust – which can be             shows such as the Emmerdale Omnibus.              Education Committee and pro vice-­
accessed on several platforms, includ-          She remembers that, after the team              chancellor of the University of Sunderland.

Television www.rts.org.uk May 2022                                                                                                            17
A+E’s fresh twist
                  on true crime
                            Novelists Mark Billingham and Douglas Skelton
                           offer their take on the UK’s most notorious crimes

                                                                                                                                          Paul Hampartsoumian
                                                                                                                   From left: Dan Korn,
                                                                                                              Mark Billingham, Douglas
                                                                                                             Skelton and Caroline Frost

     A
                      t an intimate RTS event    crime ­fiction, who brings their own              “We are always seeking a new way
                      in London’s British        personality and take on the crimes             into crime, we always need to find
                      Library, members           that have inspired their most famous           new angles because there is a risk of
                      ­gathered to enjoy an      novels. Billingham, Skelton, Denise            things becoming repetitive and sensa-
                       illuminating discussion   Mina and Peter James are the featured          tionalist,” Korn told the chair of the
                       between bestselling       bestselling authors.                           RTS event, the journalist, broadcaster
     crime novelists Mark Billingham and              “True-crime audiences are spoilt          and author Caroline Frost.
     Douglas Skelton and A+E Networks            for choice at the moment,” said Korn,             The conversation ranged from why
     executive Dan Korn. Attendees were          who is executive producer and                  true crime fascinates and horrifies in
     also treated to exclusive excerpts from     vice-president for programming at A+E          equal measure to the conviction that,
     Crime+Investigation’s documentary           Networks UK, and commissioned                  for the past 60 years, crime fiction has
     series Once Upon a True Crime.              the show from the Glasgow and                  been less about whodunnit than why
        Hailed as a fresh approach to true-      ­London-based factual TV production            the crime was committed.
     crime programming, the new four-part         powerhouse IWC Media. “What                      Billingham’s episode tackles the
     show features notorious crimes that          ­viewers will get is a unique take,           enduring mysteries of the grotesque
     shocked the UK: the 1960s Moors               very much an author’s take.”                 couple Ian Brady and Myra Hindley,
     ­murders; the killings committed by              Korn noted that he had A+E                and the Yorkshire Moors murders of
      Peter Manuel in Glasgow in the 1950s;        ­Networks’ Polish team to thank for the      several children, which helped inspire
      the so-called “babes in the wood”             Once Upon a True Crime format; it was       his bestseller Their Little Secret.
      murders in Brighton in 1986; and the          originally produced with Polish                “I wanted to look at what happened
      unsolved case of Glasgow’s notorious          authors talking about the true crimes       after the pair were caught and con-
      “ice-cream wars” in the 1980s.                that inspired their fiction. He said all   victed, rather than just a rehash of their
        The twist on traditional true-crime         four British authors had delivered on      terrible crimes,” said Billingham.
      shows is that each episode is delivered       a promise to “tell viewers about them          Skelton’s episode examines the
      and presented by a popular writer of          from a unique place”.                      ­infamous 1980s gangland turf war

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known as the “ice-cream wars”, which                                                      “I certainly say somewhere in my
terrorised Glasgow’s East End and                                                      film that they’ve had their moment in
culminated in the murders of six                                                       the spotlight,” said Billingham. “At the
members of one family in a horrifying                                                  same time, I’m aware that I am now
arson attack. In 1984, two men were                                                    part of that spotlight. So it’s a line you
convicted of the murders and sen-                                                      have to walk and you have to use your
tenced to life while constantly protest-                                               best judgement.”
ing their innocence. After a 20-year                                                      For Skelton, it is because he still
battle, their convictions were over-                                                   has questions: “The only thing I know
turned. No one subsequently has been                                                   for certain that happened in 1984 was

                                                                 Paul Hampartsoumian
brought to justice for the murders. The                                                that someone lied. I would like to find
background to the case influenced                                                      out who it was and that’s why I keep
Skelton’s novel Blood City.                                                            hammering away at this idea that the
    In her film, Mina examines the story                                               authorities get up off their backsides
of Manuel, who, in 1958, became the                                                    and look into this case again to try and
                                               Mark Billingham
second-to-last man to be hanged in                                                     find out what happened.” What drives
Glasgow, after killing at least seven                                                  men and women to commit dreadful
­people during a campaign of terror
 across Lanarkshire between 1956 and            ‘CRIME FICTION                         acts is the essential question most crime
                                                                                       authors are wrestling with, he said.
 1958. The spree included the murder of
 Marion Watt, her 16-year-old daughter
                                               HAS BEEN ABOUT                             “For the past 60-odd years, crime
                                                                                       fiction has been about the why-dunnit
 and Watt’s sister. Manuel’s intriguing        THE WHY-DUNNIT                          rather than whodunnit,” Billingham
 relationship with Marion’s husband,
 William Watt, provides the backdrop
                                                 RATHER THAN                           said. “I think it’s something we’re
                                                                                       always going to be fascinated by.
 for Mina’s novel The Long Drop.                 WHODUNNIT’                            Always.” After all, losing yourself in a
    “He [Manuel] was the bogey man,”                                                   book or disappearing into a documen-
 Skelton told the RTS. “For years after-                                               tary is a safe way to encounter crime.
 wards, mothers would say to their chil-                                               “Some people want escapism, some
 dren: get to your bed or Peter Manuel                                                 people want something else. There are
 will come. He was a serial killer before                                              a whole variety of reasons why people
 they called them serial killers.”                                                     like crime drama and crime fiction,”
    Peter James’s film recalls the tragedy                                             added Billingham.
 of the “babes in the wood” murders.                                                      While the show was six months in
 The Brighton-born writer revisits his                                                 the making, IWC Media was able to
 home city to detail a crime that has                                                  move swiftly because each novelist’s
 stuck with him like no other, and the                                                 unique perspective provided a clear
 gruelling, decade-long fight for justice.                                             narrative way in to each episode.
    James focuses on the killer, Russell                                                  Korn said that each film had its own
 Bishop, who originally escaped con-                                                   kind of complexity. “A lot of the time, I
 viction for the murder of two nine-                                                   thought I would love this to run longer,
 year-old girls found strangled in woods                                               like at 66 minutes for a 90-minute slot,
 on the outskirts of Brighton because                                                  but you do have to compress it and
 his girlfriend gave him an alibi.                                                     bring it down to time for 45 minutes,
    Korn noted that James got very close                                               which, sometimes, is a shame. With
 to the case and to the investigating                                                  these films, they all had more to give.”
 police officers and was devastated that                                                  Once Upon a True Crime began airing
                                                                 Paul Hampartsoumian

 they had not been able to bring Bishop                                                on Crime+Investigation in the UK on
 to justice, despite knowing he was                                                    25 April on pay platforms and is also
 guilty. It took 10 years before Bishop                                                available on streaming services
 was convicted.                                                                        ­Amazon Prime Video and Apple TV+.
    “There is a hook to crime – they are                                                  A good consolidated audience for
                                               Douglas Skelton
 the best stories, that’s why people come                                               the show would be around the 200,000
 to them,” suggested Korn. “They also                                                   mark, remarked Korn after the event.
 provide a gripping social commentary.”
    All the episodes contain a revelation
                                               ‘MOTHERS WOULD                           And, of course, lead to the commission-
                                                                                        ing of more crime – at least on TV. n
 or two that surprised the authors and            SAY TO THEIR
 will, no doubt, provide viewers with
 never-before-known nuggets.                     CHILDREN: GET                         Report by Stuart Kemp. The RTS members
                                                                                       event ‘Once Upon a True Crime’ was
    So, how do Billingham and Skelton
 feel about being a part of the big media
                                                TO YOUR BED OR                         held on 20 April at the British Library,
                                                                                       London. It was hosted by journalist, broad-
 circus that still follows these true crimes     PETER MANUEL                          caster and author Caroline Frost and
 and feeds people’s appetite for such
 grisly content?
                                                  WILL COME’                           produced by Barbara Pianca, senior com-
                                                                                       munications manager, A+E Networks UK.

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