CAREERS/COURSES: PARENTS' PRESENTATION 16TH JAN. 2020 - DR. PAT COFFEY PRINCIPAL JUSTIN MCGREE GUIDANCE COUNSELLOR SEAN KIELY
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Careers/Courses: Parents’ Presentation 16th Jan. 2020 Dr. Pat Coffey Principal Justin McGree Guidance Counsellor Sean Kiely AIB
Content: • Higher Education, Further Education, etc – what to do next? • College entry requirements • CAO applications • Hear/Dare • PLC Route • SUSI (grants) and Funding further education • Apprenticeships • Support
Career Choice Steps • Knowing yourself – Skills, likes/dislikes and values (Pyschometrics) • Finding out – Exploring what is out there (Research) • Making Decisions – Comparing Options (Ranking) • Taking Action – Working towards your goals (Goal Setting & Study)
Research: • www.cao.ie • www.qualifax.ie (searchable database of courses) • www.careersportal.ie (very comprehensive careers/courses information) • www.careersnews.ie (daily news feed on careers & courses) • www.gradireland.com • www.solas.ie (apprenticeships) » College prospectus » College websites » CAO handbook » Professional Bodies’ Websites (e.g. Engineers Ireland…)
The 5 Selection Criteria • Age 17 on year of entry • EU Citizen • Institutional Requirements: – Level 6/7 courses = Min 5 subjects in LC (some have higher requirements) – Level 8 = 6 subjects in Leaving Cert – 2H6 and 4O6 • Faculty Requirements • Specific subjects at specific grades e.g. Pharmacy requires 2 lab science subjects • Points (final selection criteria)
Example: Subject Level /Grade CAO Points Best Six English H3 77 77 Irish H6 46 - Maths H4 66(+25)= 91 91 French H3 77 77 Biology H3 77 77 Construction H2 88 88 History H3 77 77 Business 03 37 - LCVP Merit 46 TOTAL 487
OFFERS EXAMPLE: Simon’s Results – 487 points Subject Level /Grade CAO Points Best Six English H3 77 77 Irish H6 46 - Maths H4 66(+25)= 91 91 French H3 77 77 Biology H3 77 77 Construction H2 88 88 History H3 77 77 Business 03 37 - LCVP Merit 46 TOTAL 487
• Level 8 – DC200 495 – DC195 489 – DT025 480 – DN077 460 – DN078 480 – GY401 320 – GY405 315 – GY413 300 – LM073 480
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IMPORTANT DATES 2019/20 - CAO:
• *Tuesday, August 11th: The State Examinations Commission delivers 2020 Leaving Cert results to more than 700 schools, and makes them available through a secure online service at examinations.ie from noon. Full analysis of the results in Irish Times supplement. • *Wednesday, August 12th, 9am-Friday 14th, 5pm: Application to view scripts can be made online only on the SEC Student Portal. Students will also have access to the component marks of their various scripts at this time. • *Thursday, August 13th: The CAO releases round one offers to candidates online that afternoon. Minimum points required for entry to each course will be available on the CAO website at that time and are printed in full in The Irish Times Round One Offers supplement on Friday 14th . • *Friday, August 14th (5pm)-Thursday August 20th (5pm): Students who wish to appeal the result in one or more Leaving Cert subjects can apply online through the SEC Student Portal to do so between these dates. A fee of €40 per subject applies, which is refunded in the case of an upgrade. • *Tuesday, August 18th-Wednesday, August 19th: Leaving Cert students who are unhappy with a grade they received on Tuesday 11th and wish to view their marked exam scripts in their school may do so on Tuesday 18th and/or Wednesday 19th as assigned by their school. Students, along with one person of their choice, can view their scripts, which are available in their schools. The scripts cannot be viewed by anyone else unless the student is present. There is no charge for viewing your marked exam scripts. Scripts in subjects which were scanned and corrected online in June will be available to view online from 5pm Tuesday 18th to 5pm on Wednesday 19th. • *Friday, August 21st (5.15 pm): Closing date for receipt of acceptance of CAO round one offers. • *Wednesday, August 26th: The CAO makes round two offers available to applicants online. The minimum points required for entry to each course are released on the CAO website on that date. • *Friday, August 28th (5.15 pm): Closing date for receipt of acceptance of CAO round two offers. • *Friday, September 18th: Results of Leaving Cert appeals released by the SEC by this date. Final offers of places by the CAO will be made in the days following the release of appeal results by the SEC * All the above information is based on a continuation in 2020 of the new structures put in place in 2019 (Last year the first grant payments came out on Sept 23rd for those who registered early)
Offer of Places • Leaving Cert results are expected on Tues Aug 11th* • Round 1 – Expected that these will issue in the afternoon of Thurs Aug 13th (deadline for return would be 5:15 on Tues Aug 18th)* • Round 2 – Round 2 offers should issue on Aug 21st.* • Rounds will continue over the following dates (with tighter returns windows) until they are exhausted. • By end of Aug remaining places will be put on the “available places” section of the website. * All of the above dates are TBC by the CAO and have not yet been released.
What it involves: • Currently a seven stage on-and-off-the-job training programme over 2-4 years (usually three) before becoming a fully qualified tradesperson and/or achieving a QQI Lvl 6 Advanced Certificate. • Generally 40 weeks off the job training (SOLAS through ETBs) • Must be at least 50% workplace learning • Prior to 2016 the employer only paid the trainee for the stages of on-the-job training but since 2016 the employer pays the trainee for the entire duration of the training.
DARE • The Disability Access Route to Education (DARE) is a college and university admissions scheme which offers places on reduced points to school leavers with disabilities. DARE has been set up by a number of colleges and universities as evidence shows that disability can have a negative impact on how well a student does at school and whether they go on to college. • Who should apply to DARE? School leavers under the age of 23 as of Jan 1st 2020, who have completed an Irish Leaving Certificate and have the ability to benefit from and succeed in Higher Education but who may not be able to reach the points for their preferred course due to the impact of a disability or ongoing illness. www.accesscollege.ie
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FUNDING: How can we afford it????????
* The rent figure is the mean of National City regions single rent a room cost. The above guide is a national guide, and the average rental figure for students in Dublin is higher at around €574. Rent in Dublin can vary widely from less than €495 per month for a shared room, up to €1,976 or more for a one bedroom unit in Dublin 2. (€574 Figure mean of Dublin region single rent a room cost)
Note: Details for 2017 applicants are still TBC
KEY ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA • Nationality: Irish, EU, EEA, Swiss nationals or have specific leave to remain in the State. • Residency: 3 of last 5 years in Ireland, EU, EEA or Switzerland. • Progression in education – NFQ levels 5-10. • Approved College/Course (not private colleges) • ‘Reckonable’ Household Income
Income Limits for 2020 Applicants: * NOTE: at present only the 2019 figures are available but these have not changed in recent years and so should be a good indication of 2020 projected figures.
Grant Types and Rates (Dependent on your Reckonable Income) • Fee Grant (Undergrad & Postgrad, not PLC): €3,000 Student Contribution (2019/2020); Paid directly to Colleges; 100% or 50% rates; and €2,000, or up to €6,270, Postgraduate Fees. • Maintenance Grant (“adjacent”
SOME KEY MESSAGES Check the SUSI website: www.susi.ie (And use the Eligibility Reckoner); CAO form: Tick the SUSI option; Apply early (For priority clearing): Open 3rd April 2020 (TBC) Priority Closing: 7th July 2020 (TBC) Return requested documentation: complete and on time. Self Assessed Income: Early tax returns in 2019.
www.susi.ie Remember If your child qualifies for HEAR, a separate application is still needed for SUSI !
SUSI STUDENT UNIVERSAL SUPPORT IRELAND • Website: www.susi.ie • Email: support@susi.ie • Facebook.com/susisupport • Twitter.com/susihelpdesk • Telephone helpdesk: 0761 087 874
HELPING YOU PLAN FOR COLLEGE Allied Irish Banks, p.l.c. is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland.
Typical Costs of College These are the areas where you should factor in costs Accommodation Student Fees Travel expenses Food Books Mobile Phone Social Life
8 TIPS TO MANAGING THE COSTS OF COLLEGE 01 Savings Jar! Collect spare change, you’d be surprised how much you’ll save (Social Life) 05 Why not apply for a part time job to make some extra money (Everything) Where possible, don’t borrow Make sure you get a Student 02 Leap Card for public transport and retailer discounts! (Travel) 06 to buy. Unless you have a regular income this is generally a bad idea. Use comparison websites to Set up a savings plan that 03 make sure you are getting the best deal (Mobile network 07 allows you to budget for once- off purchases (Student Fees) suppliers) 04 Look out for shops/websites that offers specific student 08 Ask around for second hand books to save costs (Books) discounts (Food/Travel)
How AIB can help! Student Officers Our Products Student Centre • Dedicated Student Officers • Student Plus Account • Dedicated Student Centre in every branch available to you • Student Personal Loan • Provide you with ongoing • Phone: 0818 303 203 support and advice • Student Contribution throughout your student life Charge Loan Lines are open 8am – 9pm Mon-Fri • AIB Student Credit Card (For 9am – 6pm Saturday customers over 18)
The AIB Student Plus Account Features: • No quarterly maintenance and transaction fees.* • All students can apply for an interest free overdraft. • Commission-free purchase and sale of foreign currency notes** • Advice from our Student Officers and a dedicated Student Centre. • Apple/Google Pay for customers over 16. • Everyday Rewards for customers over 16. • AIB Debit Card which can be used abroad. *Other fees and charges may apply. **To avail of these additional benefits, you must advise staff at the time of each transaction that you are an AIB Student Plus Account holder. These additional financial benefits are only available on face to face transactions undertaken at the branch and are not available on any transactions undertaken at an ATM, AIB Self Service banking or through any other electronic means. Terms and conditions apply. The AIB Student Plus Account is available to any person enrolling or currently engaged in any full-time third level educational course, which includes full-time post-graduate studies, with a minimum duration of one academic year.
Reduced Rate Loans for AIB Student Plus Account Holders Student Personal Loan Student Contribution Charge Loan • Up to €3,000 per year for a max of 4 • You can apply for a Student Loan at a years. competitive rate up to a maximum of €50,000. • It has a current Variable interest rate of 8.15% (APR 8.45%). * • Competitive interest rate for new loans at 8.15% Variable, APR (Annual Percentage • You can pay Interest only repayments for Rate) of 8.45%*, subject to variation. the duration of your course and then start full repayments over a 5 year period on completion of your course. Lending criteria, terms and conditions apply. Credit Facilities are subject to repayment capacity and financial status, and are not available to persons under 18 years of age. Security may be required. The Student Contribution Charge Loan can not be used to fund any post-graduate study. *Rates correct as at 19 December 2018 and subject to change. Current interest rates at www.aib.ie/students
Thank you for your time this evening. Any questions?
Supporting them:
Things a parent can do to help: • Read up on the relevant courses on the Qualifax website. From an adult perspective you may have some questions that your child has overlooked. • Make sure your son/daughter has gone to some Open Days and/or visits the colleges. These are essential for students trying to come to terms with the vast array of colleges and courses. (However an Open Day will be not be helpful if there has been no preparatory work beforehand). • If possible introduce your son/daughter to someone currently doing the course/working in the career area.
• Look at the list of proposed courses and find out if your son/daughter has researched each course thoroughly. Any course that has not been thoroughly researched should not be on the list. • Have the CAO choices been discussed with a Guidance Counsellor? • What is the backup plan if the predicted results do not happen? • Be aware of the risks of failing a crucial higher- level paper such as English or Maths. An E on a higher -level paper will not be accepted whereas a D on a lower level paper may be acceptable. Also in changing levels!! • Remember parental advice is invaluable, but school leavers must make their own particular career choices.
A few simple rules: • Be involved, but not “in control” • Advise, but do not decide • Support, but do not dominate.
Keep an eye on deadlines • www.careersportal.ie • www.fethardsecondaryschool.ie e.g. UL Spring Open day on Sat 18th Ask WIT Jan 30th Next talks: LIT Jan 24th UL Jan 30th WIT Feb 27th (rescheduled)
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