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RFC Editor
   Future
Development
  Program
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Agenda
1.     Note Well
2.     Agenda Bashing (2 mins)
3.     Timeline (2 minutes)
4.     Q&A from the community (no more than 13 minutes)
5.     Issues (40 minutes)
6.     AOB

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Chairs’ Proposed Approval Flow and Schedule
When              What                                                                                                        How long

28 Sep 2021       Last meeting                                                                                                Done
7 Oct 2021        Closing remaining issues (assumes no controversy)                                                           Done*
11 Oct 2021       Peter to publish -05 with Issues marked as to be removed by RFC Editor or removed                           Done
11 Oct 2021       IAB internal review of -05 and draft-carpenter-rfced-iab-charter.txt                                        2 weeks
12 Oct 2021       WGLC Equivalent and discussion; “Shepherd review” (chairs looking for any additional issues the             Done
                  program may want to considered)
15 Nov 2021       -06 if needed                                                                                               Not yet
                                                                                                                              done
                                                                                                                                         Timing and
1 Dec 2021        Begin community review: IETF, IESG, IAB, LLC, IRTF, copy to ISOC BOT, and anyone else.                      6 weeks
                                                                                                                                          approvals
Asynch            IETF meeting: resolve early comments, gendispatch for draft-carpenter-rfced-iab-charter.txt, draft-rsalz-
                  2028bis, draft-rosen-rfced-update-2026
                                                                                                                                          governed
1 Dec 2021        AD review of draft-carpenter-rfced-iab-charter.txt, resolve community review comments                       2 weeks
                                                                                                                                         by RFC 4845
15 January 2022   Updates based on community review, LC draft-carpenter-rfced-iab-charter.txt
                                                                                                                                          and BCP 9
End of Jan 2022   IAB approval of draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfc-model (hold for IAB charter update)

Directly          Begin formation of RSAB, RSWG                                                                               1 month
afterwards
End of Jan 2022   IESG approval of draft-carpenter-rfced-iab-charter.txt, IAB release hold on draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfc-model
15 Feb 2022       Formation of RSWG, RSAB complete, RFCEFDP Program concludes

                                              This assumes no more substantial issues
Questions?
Open (Mostly) Editorial Issues
Issue #        Heading                                                                         Status                                    Anticipated next step

          106 Editorial: first sentence of the abstract                                       Editorial                               Leave to editor
                                                                                              Be slightly clearer on what has changed
          107 What are the updates to other RFCs?                                             (notably 8730, but also 7841)           Leave to editor

          111 Selection committees (again)                                                    Editorial                                 Leave to editor

          112 RPC SOW (editorial)                                                             Editorial                                 Leave to editor
              Section on External Representation does only consider incoming requests but     Duplicate of #83. Section header may
          121 not actual representation                                                       get edited.                               Leave to editor
              RPC under authority of the IETF LLC => "as contractually overseen by the IETF
          122 LLC"                                                                            Editorial                                 Accept
                                                                                              Mentioned in MSJ review- not editorial,
          124 Minor tweak to cover legacy RFC editor documents                                but does not change our intent.           Accept
          126 Point in time RPC responsibilities                                              Not editorial, but no change to intent.   Leave to editor
          130 §3.1.2 s/should choose/chooses or shall choose/                                 Editorial                                 Leave to editor BUT… normative language?
          131 7282->2418 citation                                                             Editorial                                 Leave to editor
          133 A member of the community -> a person                                           Editorial                                 Leave to editor

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Where we seem to have agreement to accept
Issue #         Heading                                                            Status                                Anticipated next step

            86 Editorial: add referece to draft-carpenter-iab-charter             Text in working copy                  Accept

          104 Temporary RSCE                                                      Proposed text from Jay                 Accept
                                                                                  Ties to John Levine comments- text
          105 RPC responsibilities missing a couple of responsibilities           proposed on list seems to have support Accept

          108 Remove word ultimate                                                Support to remove                     Accept

          109 Do we want to write the existence of rfc-interest into the draft?   Proposed word change by Brian         Accept

          114 Simpler process for certain changes                                 Proposed text                         Accept

          119 Heritage                                                            Proposed text                         Accept

          125 Be more specific about persons when raising concerns                Proposed text on list                 Accept

          128 Permit RSCE not to wait to be consulted                             Proposed text                         Accept

          132 What happens if vote doesn’t pass                                   Proposed text                         Accept

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No support
Issue #         Heading                                     Status                                 Anticipated next step

                                                           No consensus- some support for three
            97 3-month restart timer                       months from RSWG approval              Close
          113 Editorial Expertise Concerns                 No proposed changes                    Close
                                                           Key design choice and issue raised
          115 No accountability                            earlier                                Close
                                                           Already proposed and rejected by group
          116 Initial list of RFCs for editorial stream?   (and no support)                       Close

          118 Costs hidden?                                Discussion requested                   Close
                                                           No support, and was previously
          120 Performance target text tweak                discussed (level of detail)            Close

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Discuss
Issue #         Heading                                                Status                       Anticipated next step

            93 Appeals against RSAB decisions                         Proposed text from Martin    Discuss

           94 Who resolves disputes when they need to be timely?      Proposed text from Martin    Discuss
              RSWG for everything?
          117 RPC responsibilities and the community                  Lots of discussion on list   Discuss

          129 RSWG Chairs issue community last call instead of RSAB   Different views              Discuss

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Working off the issue tracker
Any other business
Acknowledgments
• By Casanovan - Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=10631382
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