YEAR 12 SATAC Parent Presentation Applying for University & TAFE Courses 2018 Rose Coorey & Anthony Vizaniaris - Monday 7th August - St ...
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YEAR 12 SATAC Parent Presentation Applying for University & TAFE Courses 2018 Monday 7th August Rose Coorey & Anthony Vizaniaris Career Counsellors
Yr 12 Parent SATAC Night Handout Monday 7th August 2017 Very Important Download: SATAC Tertiary Entrance Booklet 56pages http://www.satac.edu.au/documents/teb_2018.pdf Key Dates TOMORROW Book Appt with Ms Coorey Special Flinders Assessment – exceptional circumstance Wed 9th August Yr 12 SATAC Booklets distributed Thurs 17th August Yr 12 Student SATAC Application Talk 9.15-10.15am Mary McKillop centre Friday 18th August Deadline to respond to Mr Viz re Flinders UniTest – must have Non S Michael’s Email. Flinders Uni Open day Saturday 19th August Flinders Uni Open day Sunday 20th August UniSA, Uni of Adelaide & Adelaide College of the Arts Open Day – See Newsletter. Wed 6th Sept Music Audition Application Deadline Uni of Adelaide Thurs 7th September Sit for Flinders UniTest here at St Michael’s be here by 8.45am Friday 29th Sept SATAC Deadline to get one preference on the system – but closing date for a few courses: Medicine, Oral Health, Dentistry, Vet Bioscience at Adel Uni and Creative Arts Drama at Flinders. Many interstate courses have rule no late application esp if Auditions Interviews etc – check ASAP. Thursday 31st Oct if sitting STAT Test fee must be paid to SATAC Sunday 19th Nov Possible Main STAT Sitting Date TBC Tues 19th Dec Possible SACE Results Release TBC & Ms Kemp and Ms Coorey at SMC Wed 3rd Jan Last Day to change “eligible” SATAC preferences for Uni Tues 16th Jan SATAC Uni Offer round Tonight’s PowerPoint will be available on the College Intranet Page under Student Services presentations from tomorrow. Student photos will not be included. It is also accessible on the main Internet Page: Under Teaching and Learning/ Curriculum Rose Coorey Career Counsellor T (08) 8356 5966 rose.coorey@smc.sa.edu.au Tues: 9.30-1.30pm, Wed: 9.30-2.30pm, Thurs: 9.30-4.15pm Anthony Vizaniaris Personal Counsellor & Career Counsellor T (08) 8356 5966 anthony.vizaniaris@smc.sa.edu.au Monday – Friday 8.30-4.30pm
Gen Z & Maximising Results 2017 Keeping on top of required work tasks Effective Study Habits: Setting a rhythm & frequency. 2017 issue + Concentration & Embrace feedback Communication Socially balanced: Good friends, 3:1 Ratio Fitness Sleep Diet Calm Calmness Mindfulness vs Wasteful Anxiety Value of reflecting on a failure – change approach Gratitude Spirituality and doing Good for the Common Good… feel good factor Video: http://helloclarity.com.au/2017/07/18/gen-z-future- employability
GAP Year There are Degrees with jobs guaranteed VET Qualification https://cica.org.au/wp-content/uploads/Perceptions- are-not-Reality-May-2017.pdf All courses are the same no Better to do TAFE after Uni matter what Uni: : https://www.qilt.edu.au/ Just concentrate at Uni and then try a job after https://universityreviews.com.au/australian-rankings/ https://www.gooduniversitiesguide.com.au/careers-guide
https://www.careerfaqs.com.au/news/ne ws-and-views/future-of-work-how-to- stop-a-robot-from-stealing-your-job https://www.careerfaqs.co m.au/news/news-and- views/the-future-of-work- 4-trends-for-2015-and- beyond
https://www.c areerfaqs.com .au/news/new s-and- views/the-10- skills-you-ll- need-by- 2020-and- beyond
The Seven Job Clusters – job skills occupational mobility https://www.fya.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/The-New-Work-Mindset.pdf
Achieving SACE The table below illustrates how the minimum 200 Credit Points are acquired to achieve the SACE: SACE Subject Credits: 10 Credits = 1 Semester, 20 Credits = Full Year Study SACE Requirement SMC Credits Credits Personal Learning Plan 10 10 (PLP)(Yr 10) Literacy (English) Stage 1 (Compulsory Units/Full Year) 20 20 Numeracy (Mathematics)(Compulsory Unit) 10 10 Stage 1 (Usually 20) Free Choice 90 70 (Stage 1) Religion 10 (SMC Requirement) Research Project (Stage 2) 10 10 Stage 2 Subjects 60 80 Total 200 210
Three Grades / Scores St Michael’s College Grade – on end of Year report. A measure of a students performance against criteria set here at St Michaels. In many cases it is based on not yet moderated assessment and obviously does not include final external assessments such as exams. Subject Achievement Grade on SACE Record of Achievement Certificate – https://www.sace.sa.edu.au/students/assessments-and-results/assessment#title#section4 reflection of a students performance against the set criteria in that subject only. The grade is derived from a “moderated” Raw Score out of 150 – all the specified & weighted components stated in the Assessment guidelines by SACE. For example a score of a B- in Subject X may come from : Folio (20%) B / Skills Task (50%) C- / External Assessment (30%) A- This is then equated to a score out of 150. SACE have published a table showing the Numeric Value of SACE Grades. From the score out of 150 a Grade is awarded (if the raw score is 90 that equates with a C+) Scaled Score /20 is printed on a students 2017 Tertiary Entrance Statement http://www.sace.sa.edu.au/c/document_library/get_file?uuid=60a80bb6-f17b-4abc-8b2a-05b4c3ec49f3&groupId=10336 used by SATAC to calculate a University and or TAFE Aggregate. Every student in a particular subject with the same moderated Raw Score is Scaled the same amount. In the Scaling process the “average mean raw” score in each subject is then compared to all the other subject combinations and their individual “average mean raw score”. So subjects can be added together, there is a very complicated adjustment process called Scaling. By applying Scaling it provides a way to compare / add dissimilar subjects for the purpose of Tertiary Entrance. Scaling is based on the score out of 150 not the Subject Achievement Grade. This year finer denominators to two decimal points – so bigger range possible.
# 2015 at least 90 Credits
The SATAC computer calculates automatically the best options for a student i.e. when to halve a score out of 20, calculate the best score for Recognised Studies VET Cert3 Score etc etc The Tertiary Entrance Statement does not show BONUS Points – need to ph SATAC separately for that.
How are Scores established Moderation Scaling SATAC You Tube Clip: http://www.satac.edu.au/scaling
Calculating a University Aggregate
Bonus Points 2017 Bonus Point Scheme has a maximum of 9 possible points added to University Aggregate out of /90 5 Equity Bonus Points for eligible students' all SA NT Courses (Via SATAC & Covers all Uni’s through SATAC) Application via SATAC Website with documentation to be posted after. School Card, Health Care Card, Centrelink Recipient (conditions apply) in the year they gain their ATAR – if in parents name requires proof posted. Up to 4 Language Literacy & Mathematics Bonus Points English Lit, English, Maths Methods Maths Specialist & LOTE for all except Medicine & Vet Bioscience Must achieve a C- or better to get relevant “Subject Bonus points” LLM Bonus Points are added to Aggregate automatically by SATAC On your Tertiary Entrance Statement an ATAR (not with Bonus Points) will be shown but to get the Selection Rank ATAR with Bonus Points students need to phone SATAC and or the Universities in the day of results release. NOTE: ATAR “Selection Rank” (with consideration of Bonus Points) that can be used for all courses except Medicine & Vet Bioscience and not for Interstate Courses Some interstate have own system and need to be applied for separately.
ATAR/ Selection Rank Cut Off Australian Tertiary Admissions Rank University Aggregate out of 90 (with Bonus Points added) placed in a RANK order Selection Rank ATAR A published course Cut Off ATAR/ SELECTION RANK is last student to be offered a place in the course the previous year – need to aim above this and as close as possible to any relevant Guaranteed Entry Score The Published ATAR Selection Ranks do include Bonus Points
Subject Scaled Scores 2016/7 Scaling can and does change year to year Scaling impacts more so in the B grade band. Last year we saw some subjects experience more scaling in the B+ range Scaling impacts more in subjects which do not have significant Public Exam No subject gets scaled up or down as a whole subject. Be aware you could get all B and B+ and not get a good enough ATAR to get into desired University course Critical that students are in dialogue with their teachers about how the are going and what they can do to improve. Students should be very aware of how that grade in that subject was scaled last year. Can’t alter impact of scaling only level of achievement.
Key Changes for 2018 TAFE: Online approx 30th August Entry to most courses requires a Language, Literacy and Writing Numeracy Assessment. Work Ready – new funding model. MANY courses cut. Limit of 2 Cert 3 and above to access subsidised funding. Significantly less options at Diploma level. New Dip of Counselling/ Bach of Social Work _ eed to check location and study mode Flinders: Fox Business School: Innovation & Creative Thinking & Crowd Clod and Open Innovation. New Business Online course, Healthy Ageing, new Sport combinations Bach of Letters one year Sport & Conditioning. & new Criminology , Archaeology & geography Combinations: https://www.flinders.edu.au/study/explore/new-courses-2018 UniSA: New Bach of Maths Streams, Design (Illustration & Animation) Winter “break” school in Business with earlier yr start. More opportunities for professional career Planning, Mentoring O/S Study options I yr in France University of Adelaide: Music Removal ATARS most streams, 2 new Bach of Media Majors Sonic Arts New focus in ECMS re SA Focus: Defence, Space, Smart Cities.Change to Medicine Interview – only one round professions career preparation Course Possibility within Commerce to do international Stream with 2 years in Beijing, More Internships and Study Tours New Science EcoTourism Torrens University private Uni $$ Small Classes , New Streams In Business Sports Management and Marketing. Impressive Media design courses. Some scholarships available Central Queensland University: Psychology pathway, Accident Forensics, Occup health & safety – Interesting course delivery here in Adelaide Charles Darwin: Many Scholarships, Darwin Waterfront Business School, Trades Training Centre, Most courses continue to have 60 ATAR Cut off with some variation Engineering, Law, Pharmacy & midwifery. Many online options – get GPA then apply for Tertiary Transfer. Many refined changes Bach of Eng Science/ Master of Engineering etc with Maths Studies as Assumed Knowledge – can do externally too. Bach of Creative Arts Drone School Tabor College now in SATAC Guide Arts, Education Primary & Secondary Youth Work Theology Counselling Guaranteed Entry 60- 65 ATAR Course dependent. Never assume courses stay the same – check SATAC Guide pre requisites Assumed Knowledge carefully – phone Unis to ask for suggestions for fall back preferences..
COURSE SELECTION Preferences Eligibility SACE ATAR Prerequisites C- or better Precluded Combinations Counting restrictions Additional Application Requirements Course Match to student Course Investigation 1st yr subjects Opportunities for placements exchanges internships credit cost Flexibility: Moving from one to another Tertiary Transfers & GPA TAFE- Uni Why do so Many Change Courses? Uni Adelaide Research Over 50 percent of First Year University Students make a change to their course on study by the end of first year – Some change whole pathways!
SATAC: The Basics Up to 6 Preferences for Uni and or (4) TAFE www.satac.edu.au Separate Area for TAFE with separate registration .TAFE Not open until September Interstate SATAC equivalents Check in advance esp closing dates, Bonus Point process and other application requirements. One offer possible in each System and can have more than one for TAFE Uni Deadline: 29h September and TAFE: TBA usually around 28th October Other Application Requirements and Special Dates Music Auditions TBA Equal Consideration by Due dates – first 30th Sept then… Entering and sending Cert 3 results – esp for some Flinders Course. But not compulsory Changing preferences for most OK up to 3rd January Uni & 27th Dec (TBA) TAFE … as long as they have met this first deadline. The cost of on time application is $ 30 Uni ($149 late fee after that date) and TAFE applications are currently free & On time STAT Test i.e. booked by 30 Sept = $120
Applying at SATAC Students begin Application by registering with UserName 4 characters and Password 8 characters one letter. Must have a Personal Email account. (Later in applic should put SACE Number) A Confirmation email is sent to begin the Log in process UMAT Rego required for Medicine Dentistry Need to flag if sitting Flinders UniTest TBA Select Equity Considerations if relevant Book STAT Test (must be 18 by 1st Feb 2017) Note: May be other Special Entry Requirements for “That “ course – see SATAC Online All subsequent checking & changing & responding to offers done via this site. Each applicant is given a SATAC Reference Number at the end of the application – need this next time you log on. No number means no application finalised.
Up to 6 Preferences Example assumes no Bonus Points Kylie ATAR 73.4 Josh ATAR 67.7 Sam ATAR 95.6 Course X ATAR 74 Course C (73.0) Course M Medicine offer Course Y ATAR 80 Course V (ATAR 66) Course C (ATAR 73.0) Course P ATAR 90 Course K Course T Course C (ATAR73.0) Course Z Course G No preference Course Y Course W No preference Course T Course H Kylie has the higher ATAR than Josh for Course C cut off ATAR and she does not meet the ATAR for her higher preferences so will be offered a place over Josh. Sam will not be considered as he has received an offer. The position of each preference is an indicator of the order they wish to be considered for their preferences. It is not used to judge level of interest. You can only be offered one preference.
Key Dates 18-20th August Tertiary Open Days Uni & Adelaide TAFE Friday 18th August close of applications for “UniTEST” (Many Flinders Courses) Applications for auditions for Music at Uni Adelaide will open now Check Closing date 6th Sept Check Interstate closing dates in advance. 17th September Sit Flinders UniTest at St Michaels 29th September – Most Applications for University close (Late fee applies after this date) Medicine (Adel Uni) Dentistry Oral Health Vet Bioscience & Flinders Drama final deadline. Should book & pay for STAT to avoid late fee by this date. TBA 30th October – Applications for TAFE close (Late fee applies after this date) NOTE There are some Uni and TAFE courses that cannot be added as preferences after this date October November December NOTE: Many courses that require portfolios compulsory Info Session attendance etc have deadlines for submission of these during October November December – Students need to check SATAC Guide & TAFESA Website carefully Late November Check “Approved” Cert 3 Submission Mr Woolford – do you need to post copy to SATAC? 4th December– Late Application deadline for eligible University close. Last for Medicine at Flinders. Approx Tuesday 19th Dec SACE Results Received TBA Only day to contact College re Issues with Yr 12 Results 25th December TBA – Final Day of Changes for TAFE 3rd January 2018 Final day of changes for University TBA 13 Jan 2016 (TAFE) First Round Offers for Competitive Courses or those requiring CAR SACE 16th January 2016 (University) First Round Offers
TAFE: TAFE Course Admission Requirements CAR must be met to be eligible to apply for TAFE Courses There is no CAR for Non Competitive Certificates 1, 11 and 111.Minimum CAR Exist for Competitive Cert 1, 11 and 111 and for all Cert 4 and above. Minimum CAR is usually one of the following: Pass CSPA SACE Completion, VET Qualification In each course descriptor page it states if it is a Competitive Entry Course. As soon as it is deemed Competitive it will then show CAR and also will have TAB showing Selection Criteria used to rank applicants. More often than not it is the CSPA Score There could be VET Qualification, SACE Completion and associated TAFESA Score, … evn though that has not been used for last 2 Admission Cycles. Note Skills for All Funding No Cert 1 or 2 if have SACE and only access to two equal and above Cert 3 courses – other than that full fee paying
TAFE Continued Workplace Mode Students can’t apply unless in Traineeship or Apprenticeship Course Notes Under this heading you may discover more application requirements See Ad Dip Fashion Design. Additional requirements – portfolio etc – check on TAFESA Website Moving from TAFE to Uni – Very clear pathways/ credit save $HECS debt, practical aspect to employability Do not assume if I miss out on Uni I can go to TAFE – often more competitive entry… especially if only using Yr 12 scaled scores. TAFE offers all levels of qualifications from Advanced Diplomas to Short Courses right through to dual awards with all three Universities Tonsley Campus 2015 Fantastic Facility
Preferences - TAFE: Advanced Dip of Computer Systems Technology 2 Years incorp Cert 4 Certificate IV in Information Technology 12 mths Certificate III in IT DM & T Support 6mths Certificate II in Information Digital Media & Technology 6 mths It is very clear to see stepping stones to TAFE Qualifications if courses are Competitive as it shows under Selection Criteria the Course Qualification the level below that puts you at top of consideration list.
Example of researching a TAFE Option https://www.tafesa.edu.au/xml/course/aw/aw_TP00542.aspx?S=AWD&Y=2017 Cert 4 in Vet Nursing … Competitive Entry based on CSPA Results In some cases there is value of beginning VET Studies at School – or must go back to lower Cert levels at TAFE – i.e. Fitness 3 precursor to Cert 4 TAFE Nursing – Need a pass in CSPA Test then either C3 or SACE and then ranked on CSPA Result Advanced Diploma in Screen and Media equates to 2 TAFE Qualifications… and if not eligible for Work Ready funding then cost is $15900
Preferences TAFE: Be aware The same course may be offered at other campuses and may different level of competitiveness and therefore accept lower Rank Position TAFESA Score etc Same courses different codes If a course is not competitive and you meet CAR you will get an automatic offer to enrol. Apply ASAP as if course changes they accept enrolments by date order of application. A course can “ become” competitive can always turn down offer. When to sit for CSPA Test
Deferring Offers Most Uni Course Not for TAFE Plan Gap Year
Interstate Applications: Similar to SATAC You can apply for each State and get offer for each State See Section 6 SATAC Guide Applying Interstate Note: often English is a Pre Req – but not always and different Bonus Point Policies. Often requires sep application. If you have ANY interest in applying interstate, it is imperative you email the Admission Officer at the relevant Uni to see what is the ruling for students from South Australia or come and see Ms Coorey Many of our students interested in Medicine end up applying around Australia – for example James Cook Uni in Townsville not require UMAT, Bond No UMAT but Expensive
SOME COMMON PITFALLS: Change of address Right Course Wrong Code – different campus? Check Pre-requisite and Entry requirements. Failed to submit portfolio etc. Didn’t think they wanted to go to TAFE Failed to respond to all (and especially) TAFE correspondence by due dates Failed to make SATAC Payment Students only used a school email account after graduation
Tuition Study Costs University HECS fees are deferrable and it is planned from 1st January to remove the discount provided for any upfront or voluntary repayments. See: http://studyassist.gov.au/sites/studyassist/news/pages/changes-to-hecs-help-discounts-and-voluntary-repayment-bonus This Coalitions proposed changes to allow the Universities to determine course fees has still not passed through Parliament, so for the moment fees are set in Bands – but this could change: For Changes See: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-01/university- fees-to-rise-in-federal-government-education-shake-up/8487564 In most cases ATO deduct a small percentage (2% to 8%) from pay once graduate is earning above a certain salary (likley to be around $42000). As income level increases so does percentage paid back. In 2017 the “cost” of a full time year of a Uni course varied between $6100 to $10000 depending on Band category. http://studyassist.gov.au/sites/StudyAssist/HelpfulResources/Documents/ 2017_HECS-HELP_Booklet_ACC.pdf. www.goingtouni.gov.au
TAFE Costs “WorkReady Funded” Certificate I and II are only accessible and free for certain groups. The majority of Certificate III and IV courses will be partially funded by the South Australian Government. Students only can access two Cert 3 and above courses at subsidised Skills for All rate. Note this area is in state of constant change so will be clarified in end of Yr Careers newsletter. New WorkReady Subsidised training List Funding as at 1st July 2017 :http://www.skills.sa.gov.au/for-training-providers/workready-subsidies/subsidised- training-list Very limited places in courses deemed not skilled shortage area –last year Dip Fitness course?? The TAFE Tuition & TAFE amenities costs beyond the set fee and these will be specified on the TAFE WEBSITE Fees vary by course, caps on number of courses you can do under Skills for All Funding. Areas of National Priority are much cheaper. 2 year Diploma of Early Childhood and Care relatively cheap at $5000 but a 12 month Dip of Photo Imaging could cost up to $6400. For the majority of courses at Approved Registered Training Providers including TAFE there is a VET FEE Help program available like the HECS Loan system for Diploma and above. http://studyassist.gov.au/sites/studyassist/helppayingmyfees/vet-fee-help/pages/vet-fee-help TAFESA also has a Fee by Instalments payment option if approved .
Transition to Tertiary Study Gap Year Well Planned Very Impt Career Values post 20 & Study Abroad opportunities Prepare for Success – know the Course, Subjects Assessment, Deadlines Enrol – key dates for withdrawal How realistic is it to work and study (10 hrs per week maximum) Impt of GPA & broader Experiences for Job at end Where will I go for help if I need it? Orientation events Great Report See: http://www.adelaide.edu.au/altc/expectations/parents/ http://www.adelaide.edu.au/altc/expectations/publications/parents_f actsheet.pdf 6 Weeks of Year 1 and Year 2 The system is very flexible as long as seek help & communicate Universities invested heavily in first years i.e. Science at Adelaide – young lecturers study support area and IPADS TAFE to Uni – Changes to HECS / TAFE Costs
Change to the way you can get a place in University Guaranteed Entry Score Sense of relief of day of Yr 12 results – know you will get an offer Flinders UniTest Here at SMC Thursday Morning Sept 7th Mr Viz to email soon. Now all courses except medicine 60% ATAR 40% UniTest http://www.flinders.edu.au/future-students/how-to-apply/special-entry/unitest.cfm STAT Test SA Uni’s 18 by 1st Feb 2018 Special Entry – 2 quotas May require other things – Employment Experience & Personal Competency Statement. Register on SATAC web by 29th Sept for $175 fee – expensive after this. TAFE to Uni (With Credit) & TAFE concurrently with Uni Cert 3 some competitive entry possibilities to some to Flinders Courses & Some Guaranteed with Cert 4 at all Universities Flinders TAFELINK: http://www.flinders.edu.au/future-students/how-to-apply/undergraduate-study- applications/tafelink.cfm TAFE/ Uni Dual: http://www.tafesa.edu.au/apply-enrol/how-to-apply/uni-pathway-programs/dual-offer-courses UniSA TAFE RTO Pathways: http://www.unisa.edu.au/Study-at-UniSA/Study-with-us/Entry- pathways/TAFERTO/ University Adelaide: http://www.adelaide.edu.au/study/non-school/tafe-vet Foundation Studies University Preparation Courses & UniSA College & SAIBT…. More in end of year Careers Newsletter Yr 13 – 3 attempts to add to ATAR (rules on Cert 3 & Not Retail operations) Hamilton College at Marion.. Still equity School check Feb 2018
Special Cases Health – includes Mental Health: Anxiety, Prolonged Illness, Depression Disability Diagnosed Learning Issue SACE Special Provision and during Exams – see a Dr on the day Detailed Application Through Mr Schirripa No longer any SATAC Consideration outside of SACE for Yr 12 students If anything is concerning or wrong with Yr 12 results …MUST phone the College on the DAY of the Yr 12 SACE Results release approximately Tuesday 19th December TBA.
Getting Help… Where to next? Tertiary Selection Packages distributed this Wednesday Tonight Representatives from Uni and TAFE are over in Founders Hall. Tertiary Open Days 18-20th th August (Timetables Tonight in Founders Hall) and via links in Star Newsletter UniSA Open Day App Yr 12 Student Presentation will take place Thursday 17th August 9.15 to 10.15am Mr Viz by Friday Week 4 Email Re: Flinders Uni Test Thurs 7th Sept 9-11.30am – need for Non SMC Email (Special Flinders Assessment program Ms Coorey – tomorrow) Stay tuned for TAFE …Not until End of August First in first served for non competitive courses that become competitive Many Info Sessions Coming Up: USA Camp America Wednesdayhttps://campamerica.com.au/events/adelaide- camp-america-season-launch/ , SA Police 12th Dec Book ASAP: http://www.achievemore.com.au/police-officer- careers/register-interest/register-for-seminar/ ICHM Scholarships close 6th October , ADFA Info session this Wednesday evening See: https://www.facebook.com/pg/DefenceJobsAustralia/events/ Keep an eye on The Star Newsletter If students want help they can make an appointment with Ms Rose Coorey (Tues Wed Thurs) or Mr Anthony Vizaniaris who can help with the application process after 18th August or for other questions before then. Sheet to fill out in advance of Appt . Friday 29th September … one preference minimum on SATAC Website with SATAC Number rose.coorey@smc.sa.edu.au anthony.vizaniaris@smc.sa.edu.au
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