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TRANSCRIPT Visit http://www.mindef.gov.sg for more news and information about MINDEF and the SAF EMBARGOED FOR PUBLICATION UNTIL 29 JUN, 1800HRS OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT OF SAF DAY INTERVIEW WITH MINISTER FOR DEFENCE, DR NG ENG HEN ON 25 JUN 2020, 1030HRS Minister for Defence, Dr Ng Eng Hen: First, let me welcome you to this video conferencing. I will make some opening remarks and take your questions. But let me start by saying that this year, we are commemorating the SAF (Singapore Armed Forces) Day in the midst of a global pandemic; that is obvious. But what may not be so obvious, at least about the weight of the impact, this COVID-19 pandemic is more than a public health problem. Danger – Disruptions Ahead I think historians and experts think that it may be a once in a lifetime disruptive event that will define this generation, much like how the Great Depression, World War I, World War II defined theirs, and I am choosing those events for historical context pointedly. Because if you look at just over the last five months since the initial cases were discovered, and surveyed in broad terms the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, the overall landscape becomes quite clear. For instance, it has stress tested every facet of our society, our economies and international relations. It has forced every country to re-evaluate their fundamental assumptions, both internally and externally. This accelerated latent and current trends. We are talking about digitalisation, unmanned systems, how we work, commune, travel. I mean just take this video conference for example, none of us would have thought that we would have to do this and yet, now it is second nature to us and in fact we are wondering, why do we not do this as the norm right? And that is how much it has accelerated. And we hear from companies saying that their plans to push digitalisation is accelerated by years, not months. It has pushed countries to relook their dependencies, whether it is your supply chains, business continuity, investments. And it has altered international relations, because the COVID-19 pandemic has revealed the extent to which countries place their national interests above others. I think there will be more to come. Because health experts say that a vaccine is some time away, a year, two years, maybe, if at all. But at this stage, just five months after the initial cases were discovered, if we were to ask how the world at large did against COVID-19, what should have been a common enemy, I think the answer would be “just passed, could have MINDEF Communications Organisation Public Communications Directorate MINDEF Building, 303 Gombak Drive, #01-26 Singapore 669645 Tel: 9228 6190 Fax: 6769 5139
EMBARGOED FOR PUBLICATION UNTIL 29 JUN, 1800HRS done much better”. If you remember, well some of us can remember in school where the teacher wrote on our test scripts, “just passed, could have done much better”. Because instead of cooperation and collaboration, at a time when it was most needed, it was more each country for itself and that is the reason for the “just pass” mark. For Singapore, the canary in the mine of globalisation, we cannot remain unscathed and indeed, I think the change will impact us harder, because for Singapore our livelihoods depend on trade and productivity, our openness of our systems, because our trade is three times our GDP (Gross Domestic Product). And for Singapore to thrive, we need a busy, free flowing, international bazaar, and we cannot take for granted that that will be the case going forward. I have painted these larger trends as a backdrop because that is the world that we live in, that we have to contend with. For SAF Day, I want to focus on what this post COVID-19 world means for national security, external relations and the SAF. So let me deal with some key facets in that context. A More Unpredictable and Uncertain Strategic Environment The pandemic has resulted in a more uncertain external environment, most obvious is the heightened contestation between US and China. Let us begin with the US. The US has defined China as its main threat for the 21st century. This is a systemic view across the US, not just the White House. This sentiment permeates not only the executive, but their legislature, their media, the academia, business groups, down to the man on the street. This entrenched view of China not playing by the rules, or at least taking advantage of rules to get ahead of the US unfairly, has bipartisan support. So for example, last month, the Democrat-led House of Representatives, approved the bill recommending sanctions against Chinese officials for their treatment of Uighurs in Xinjiang. It was Democrat-led, because it is from the House of Representatives where they hold the majority. The bill, in that House of Representatives, all but one member voted for it. But the Republican-led Senate also passed the bill with unanimous consent; it has got bipartisan support. If you look at the White House, both the State and Department of Defence are aligned, not only with an overarching narrative, but with specific policy plans and action mapped out against China. So the US recently published its strategic approach towards the People’s Republic of China and it accused Beijing, and I quote, “exploiting the free and open rules based order and attempting to reshape the international system in its favour”, close quote. This very much is in line with the US Department of Defence’s National Defence Strategy, which was published in 2018. I quote from that – “the CCP (Communist Party of China) is expanding use of economic, political and military power to compel acquiescence from nation states, harms vital American interests and undermines the sovereignty and dignity of countries and individuals around the world”, close quote. The US will compete head on in the technology sector to maintain its dominance. In January this year, the US Senate introduced legislation, to provide over US$1 billion to invest in Western-based alternatives to Huawei and ZTE, these two companies were named specifically. Senator Marco Rubio, who is a member of the Senate Intelligence and Foreign Relations Committee said and I quote, “we are at a critical point in history and we cannot allow Chinese State directed telecommunication companies to surpass American competitors”, unquote. Even in areas of trade, finance, supply chains, the US has sent strong 2
EMBARGOED FOR PUBLICATION UNTIL 29 JUN, 1800HRS signals that it wants to be less dependent and it made moves to be even independent of China. The direction to uncouple is clear and in that divided world, all countries are poorer for it. Let us now turn to China, how does China see this current situation? China on its part will continue its relentless march to achieve its two centenary goals, which was set up by President Xi Jinping, to rise and to be strong. The first goal is to build a moderately prosperous society in all aspects by 2021, and I think that goal has been achieved. The second goal, quote, “to build a modern socialist country that is prosperous, strong, democratic, culturally advanced and harmonious”, unquote, by 2049. I think China will want to accelerate the achievement of that goal if opportunities present themselves. China neither accepts nor sees its own actions as inconsistencies or weaknesses of its systems or values, as characterised by the US. It views external criticisms or protests against China's behaviour through the lens of strategic rivalry with the US. And it views the Communist Party of China as central to the sovereignty and national security of China, and will seek to strengthen its grip on national and external affairs. If one were to ask what lies at the heart of this discord and strategic mistrust between the US and China, because what I have mentioned are just manifestations of something much deeper, which is not easily resolved. Discord and strategic distrust between US and China arise from the fundamental notions of how each sees itself and through that lens, the other. Both have their own rich historical contexts. So if I start with the US again. For the last century, the US, which is today's most economically successful country with the most powerful military has played critical and leading roles to shape the world based on its values and ideals. The terms such as “American Exceptionalism” and “liberal democratic ideals” are central to US foreign policy, apparent reservations of the Trump administration non-withstanding. The US cannot embrace the Chinese model of governance, or its modus operandi, whether it is conducted locally or internationally, it cannot accept it, or embrace it as compatible with its own values and liberal democratic systems. What about China? China sees itself as a continuum of the longest unbroken ancient civilisation. Even though the forms of governance over its 5000 years of history has changed from imperial rule, feudalism, to now socialist rule under the Chinese Communist Party of China The notion that China should aspire to adopt democratic ideals does not come into mind, either within the establishment or even among its population. For both its people and its establishment, their perception of their present society, or China's present society pose contradictions to socialist ideals, but the solutions would have to come from within. So this consciousness of China's being is what is uppermost in both its people and establishment. But what is also in the collective consciousness of both leaders and people is the witnessing of historical events when China was weak, whether it was within the last 200 years with foreign concessions who extracted the unequal treaties in the mid-1800s, the Opium Wars, or even further back against marauding hordes at its borders. The Chinese Communist Party of China has decided that the strength is better and far more secure. And this in part explains their words and deeds, not only to the party, but its governing establishments. 3
EMBARGOED FOR PUBLICATION UNTIL 29 JUN, 1800HRS If you view this gap between the US and China from this perspective, the realisation is the gap is far apart and will widen further. The basis for both countries are very far apart. This gap between US and China, how does it impact ASEAN? Well, first of all, we cannot avoid the effects of this contestation. And for Singapore, our small country, at the geographical intersection of East and West, will be acutely impacted for both trade and security, and that is a clear given. The US-China relationship is all important, but the overall geopolitical context will add to the tensions. If we start from Asia, what happens to Japan, Korea and India bears close watching. If you move on to Russia and Europe, these are other key pieces. Because the US seeks to reduce European dependence on its military and capability, as well as increase European purchases of US goods, I think the stress by the US on the Trans-Atlantic security alliances may weaken. Some of it, we are witnessing the beginning of the weakening, if not unravelling, of the post- WWII constructs of the last 70 years. What will replace it, is anybody's guess. If we are fortunate, the pace of change will be gradual. But the odds of a disruptive change can never be discounted. These changes that are described would have occurred even without COVID- 19, but the pandemic has further stressed the region. Particularly ASEAN, because its many emerging market economies, will be saddled with greater public debt and rising unemployment. All countries because of COVID-19 pandemic had to increase fiscal spending, but few if any, especially within ASEAN, had the strength of past reserves to draw on without having to incur massive debt. Singapore was fortunate we had reserves to draw on, but for many countries, other countries, in fact if not all other countries, they had to meet their fiscal deficits from debt. Furthermore, demands for goods and services, for example tourism, which ASEAN countries are very much dependent, on will be weak for a few years and commodity prices will remain low because demand is low. And all this means that ASEAN as a whole will grow much slower. I have taken some time to put into detail the post-COVID-19 aftermath which Singapore will have to deal with in terms of national security. We cannot be divorced from this context. At the same time, known threats remain, whether it is the South China Sea disputes, terrorism, cyber-threats. So the question to ask for us from a national security perspective, is how does Singapore navigate our small vessel, amid turbulent waters and large ocean liners that are crisscrossing and changing lanes? I think we have to do it with great care and focus. As a small country, we know it takes very little to tip us over. So for the SAF we need to be alert, to be strong to defend our sovereignty and national interest. We do not want to be caught in-between big power rivalry or be forced to choose sides. We want to be useful and friendly to all. We want to work with like-minded partners in ASEAN, and around the world to uphold a global system that is based on and thrives on openness, inclusiveness, connectivity, trade cooperation, respect for international law and non-aggression. The Continued Need for a Strong SAF Let me now zoom in to the SAF specifically and then I will take questions. So let me begin with resources for the SAF. Even with increased regional and global unpredictability and potential instability, which I have sketched in detail, Singapore will face budgetary pressures internally. This is a given. In the first quarter of this year, our GDP contracted around 5%, so this year's 4
EMBARGOED FOR PUBLICATION UNTIL 29 JUN, 1800HRS growth is bound to be affected. Even for 2021, next year, full recovery remains uncertain. MINDEF/SAF are taking measures to cut cost where we can without compromising critical operations or reduction in SAF’s medium and long-term capabilities. We will continue to be prudent in our spending. But I think all of us know that we will have to tighten our belts for this year, even the next, even 2022, until the economy fully recovers. Let me now drill in on specifics. Despite the pandemic, we have not compromised on security operations. So since January when cases were detected, since April when circuit breaker was imposed, our units continued to perform critical operations. And we did it through cohorting, which means that if you are functioning as a unit, you stay together, you do not cross, you do not meet other people. And that is to ensure continuity. Our servicemen and servicewomen perform critical functions, whether it is in island defence, protection of key installations, maritime security, air defence or counter-terrorism. And to ensure that they were intact before they started operations, they stayed in-camp sometimes as long as two, three weeks, and then started the operation. So they were away from their families for an extended period of time. And I want to congratulate them because through all these months, thousands of people on duty, we only had one infection. And we basically maintained clean units, and they kept Singapore safe because of how they conducted the operations. Now, we will continue to generate new units to meet our security needs. I have talked about our Maritime Security Task Force (MSTF) at our Committee of Supply earlier this year, to help us better deal with maritime terrorism and sea robbery and piracy. I said that we have added four patrol vessels, we started refurbishment and they will go into operations soon. The C4I community, what we call the Command, Control, Communications, Computer and Intelligence community, and our Defence Cyber Organisation have stepped up efforts for cyber-security. So over the past year, with added 150 persons to their ranks. The C4I community has also set up a dedicated intelligence facility for counter-terrorism and this will provide early warning and incident response. And we are working with other national agencies and foreign military intelligence partners. It is an ongoing set up, and this will be very important for us, to help us better deal with terrorists. The Army, in tandem with these efforts, has enhanced its Island Defence Task Force, together with our local agencies to allow us a more concerted response to incidents. Now let me move on to training, particularly overseas training. We will resume our training in a graduated and safe manner. Next month, July, our Navy's RSS Supreme, our frigate will set sail for Hawaii to participate in Exercise RIMPAC, which will involve 24 ships from 11 nations. This will be purely at sea, for safety reasons. And our frigate will be leading a group of ships during the exercise for warfare training. For the Air Force, we are working with our Australian counterparts for short term overseas flying training detachments to resume. For the Army, you will remember Basic Military Training (BMT) – we delayed it for a few weeks, it is now resumed. For our Specialist Cadet School (SCS) and Officer Cadet School (OCS), they continued, as well as essential In-Camp Training (ICT) for NS units. On top of that, we continue to mobilise NS units. For example, we mobilised a combat surgical hospital – an NS unit – to support taking care of patients in the Community Care Facility at the Singapore EXPO. We mobilised NS units for home security operations to protect Jurong Island and other key installations. Now, more ICTs will resume in the coming months, as will IPPT (Individual 5
EMBARGOED FOR PUBLICATION UNTIL 29 JUN, 1800HRS Physical Proficiency Test), IPPT Preparatory Training, Remedial Training in what we call our Fitness Conditioning Centres, and those will be phased in. Let me talk about acquisitions. F-35 JSF acquisition remains on track, and we expect to take delivery of four F-35Bs around 2026, so we are on schedule. For the Navy, the replacement for the Missile Corvettes with our Multi-Role Combat Vessel (MRCV) is also on schedule – six MRCV expected to be delivered by 2030. Air Defence, our Aster-30 system will be stood up for 24/7 operations, on schedule to replace to replace our I-HAWK systems. Now there are some delays, in particular two – the deliveries of our CH-47Fs and our H225M helicopters, and we previously said that we expected them end-2020. There will be delays and we are expecting them now in 2021. Similarly, for our Invincible-class submarine, our previous timeline was 2021. There will be some slippage, this will now be in 2022, remember these were built in Kiel. I want to talk about our training projects, to give an update. First, what we are doing in Australia, in Shoalwater Bay Training Area under our Comprehensive Strategic Partnership. We talked about our Combined Arms Air-Land Ranges and Urban Operations Live-Firing Facilities, our admin and logistic facilities, these are still on track to start later this year, so no slippage there. SAFTI City, because of the situation in our dorms, work was suspended during the Circuit Breaker period. So there is an estimated, six to nine months delay to completion by 2024. Our Air Force fighter training detachment in Guam, is on track, no delays. I talked about the NS Review Committee during Committee of Supply, chaired by Deputy Secretary (Administration) as well as the Chief of Army. It is making good progress, and it will start making recommendations fourth quarter of this year. What about defence diplomacy efforts? Amid all these uncertainty and unpredictability, it is important for top-level defence officials to meet. Well, let me just say a few words. We will need extra effort, and I am looking forward to meet with both US Secretary of Defense Mark Esper, and Chinese State Councillor and Minister of National Defense General Wei Fenghe in China later this year, when conditions permit. I put that as a significant, if not must-do deliverable – to meet personally with them later this year, both of them, to discuss the strategic context of the way forward. So I hope that will materialise. I am on schedule to meet with ASEAN and other Plus partners, Defence Ministers, in Hanoi in October later this year, conditions permitting, but that is still on the cards. One last mention on defence diplomacy, the Five Power Defence Arrangement (FPDA) meetings have continued virtually, and we have got good discussions teed up, because next year is our 50th golden anniversary, which Malaysia is hosting. Supporting the Nation’s Fight against COVID-19 In the meantime, the SAF is extensively involved in our national fight against COVID-19. And let me end off with just some broad facets of what the SAF has been doing. First off, we mobilised more than 6,000 servicemen and women from the SAF, MINDEF, DSO National Laboratories and DSTA (Defence Science and Technology Agency), including NSmen and ex- Regulars also stepped up to volunteer their services. MINDEF and the SAF were asked to provide the C2 (Command and Control) systems, personnel, and logistics to assist other agencies, Whole-of-Government effort, whether it is distributing masks, to run the dorms, 6
EMBARGOED FOR PUBLICATION UNTIL 29 JUN, 1800HRS contact tracing, isolation and containing the spread of the infection. We helped build almost 10,000 beds, more beds than existing beds in all our public hospitals, and we cared for more than 29,000 patients so far. And that is the reason why our public health care system was not overwhelmed. Specifically, six military camps were converted into community recovery facilities, which provided more than 5,000 beds. This took care of 16,000 patients as of mid- June. The MINDEF-Related Organisations repurposed the Changi Exhibition Centre into a Community Care Facility. There are about 4,400 beds, more than 8,000 patients taken care of so far. And MINDEF-Related Organisations are also building a temporary dormitory for 1,700 migrant workers at Kranji, which will begin by around July. The SAF Medical Corps has been taking care of recovering patients at the Singapore EXPO halls, and to date, they have looked after some 4,500 patients. Let me mention what the DSTA, DSO and ST Engineering companies have been doing. They have developed temperature self-check systems, deployed at 70public transport stations and interchanges from June this year. They have built the Mobile Swab Stations to enable swab operations to be done safely and swiftly. And DSO has provided key testing of COVID-19 samples and UV disinfection cabinets and so on. Conclusion Let me just conclude. We will have to respond nimbly to the post COVID-19 world. As we adapt our practices, we will remain steadfast in our commitment to protect Singapore and our interests. MINDEF/SAF’s commitment to national security will continue, with the strong support of the Government and our people. Thank you. ### For further queries, please contact: Ms Tan Rou Jin Assistant Manager (Media Relations) Tel: +65 9616 6739 Email: Tan_Rou_Jin@mindef.gov.sg Ms Claudia Liao Assistant Manager (Media Relations) Tel: +65 9616 7246 Email: Liao_Huiting@mindef.gov.sg 7
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