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                                       How I survived
                                      the death of my
                                      business partner

                                        BY C L A U D I A K I N G

                                    AML/CFT –         Equity vs    Complaints    What is
                                    Grappling         non-equity   continue to   a Social
                                    with phase 2      partners     decline       Enterprise?

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Gerard Dewar, Louise Sziranyi,
                                                                                    Gerard Letts and Daniel Vincent
                                                                                    are pleased to advise that on 1 July
                                                                                    2017 they were joined in partnership
                                                                                    by Clare Stanley and Matt Freeman.
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                                                                                   New Partners
                                                                 Clare and Matt have had long associations with the firm.

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                                                                          People in the law                                      30 · Thinking about the children
                                                                    6 · Overcoming gunpoint                                           when dividing relationship
                                                                        negotiation as a lawyer in                                    property ▹ BY HELEN TYREE
                                                                        Iraq ▹ BY NICK BUTCHER                                           AND MCKENZIE COX
                                                                    8 · On the move                                              32 · New Act has changed the
                                                                                                                                      liability landscape for rural
                                                                  13 ·    NZLS at a glance                                            fires ▹ BY VERONICA CRESS
                                                                                                                                 34 · What is a Social
                                                                  17 ·    Letters to the Editor                                       Enterprise? ▹ BY STEVEN MOE
                                                                                                                                 36 · The WJP Rule of Law Index
                                                                          Update                                                 38 · Species-altering technologies
                                                      68
                                                      62          20 · ACC and appeals to the                                         need law fit for purpose ▹ BY
                                                                       Supreme Court ▹ BY DON RENNIE                                     LYNDA HAGEN
                                                                  21 · A New Land Transfer
                                                                       Act ▹ BY THOMAS GIBBONS                                           Mediation
                                                                  22 · Bank on change ▹ BY                                       39 · Better Conversations
                                                                          TINA MITCHELL                                               Part 2 ▹ BY PAUL SILLS
                                                                  24 · America's Cup 2017                 ▹ BY
                                                                          JOHN WALTON                                                    Cover story
                                                                  26 · Commerce Commission takes                                 40 · How I survived the
                                                                       steps to protect consumers                                     death of my business
                                                                       from certain third-tier                                        partner ▹ BY CLAUDIA KING
                                                                       lenders ▹ BY HANNAH MUSGRAVE
                                                                  29 · Plants, Copyright and                                             Practice
                                                                       Wine ▹ BY DOUG CALHOUN                                    44 · Equity vs non-equity
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                                                      64                                                                              partners ▹ BY EMILY MORROW

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46 · Why lawyers shouldn’t                                              62 · How money can be                                72 · Watch out for those scam
     fear commoditisation ▹                     BY                           laundered ▹ BY NICK           BUTCHER                apps ▹ BY ANGHARAD O’FLYNN
        MICHAEL SMYTH
47 · Why provisional tax ain’t so                                            Pro Bono                                               Legal information
     bad now ▹ BY CHRIS CUNNIFFE                                        63 · Wide range of projects for                      74 · Privacy Law in New Zealand, 2nd
                                                                             Kensington Swan pro bono                             edition ▹ REVIEWED BY MARIA POZZA
        The New Lawyer                                                       team ▹ BY CRAIG STEPHEN
49 · You, human lawyer, are                                                                                                         Classifieds
     allowed not to know                                                     Focus on                                        75 · Will notices
     things ▹ BY KATIE COWAN                                            64 · The West Coast          ▹ BY                    76 · Legal jobs
                                                                             KATE GEENTY                                     79 · CPD Calendar
        Complaints
50 · Complaints against lawyers                                              Learning and                                           Lifestyle
     continue to decline                                                     development                                     82 · The America’s Cup and its
51 · Common themes in complaints                                        68 · Family Law Conference                                colourful relationship with the
     against lawyers about                                                   keeping lawyers one step                             courtroom ▹ BY NICK BUTCHER
     Conveyancing ▹ BY LISETTE SOLIS                                         ahead ▹ BY SONJA DE FRIEZ                       84 · New Orleans Good times and
54 · Lawyers Complaints Service                                         68 · NZLS signs MOU with                                  better times ▹ BY JOHN BISHOP
                                                                             Open Polytechnic                                87 · New Zealand Legal
        AML/CFT                                                                                                                   Crossword ▹ SET BY MĀYĀ
58 · Hang on: help is on its way                                             Technology
     for lawyers ready to grapple                                       70 · Video recruitment tool                                 Spotlight on
     phase two ▹ BY NICK BUTCHER                                             developed by former                             88 · Locations           ▹ BY GEOFF ADLAM
61 · What Internal Affairs is                                                lawyer ▹ BY NICK BUTCHER
     planning ▹ BY NICK BUTCHER                                         71 · NoticeMATCH checks                              90 ·   Tail-end
                                                                             deaths against client
                                                                             database ▹ BY CRAIG STEPHEN

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                                                                                                     to negotiation, mediation, commu-
                                                                                                     nication and storytelling through
                                                                                                     spending a lot of time telling other
                                                                                                     people’s stories in a courtroom
                                                                                                     helped me in what was probably
                                                                                                     one of the highest pressure situa-
                                                                                                     tions you could find yourself in,”
                                                                                                     she says.
                                                                                                        With the gun at her head both
                                                                                                     the instinctive legal and military
                                                                                                     training she had took over.
                                                                                                        “You have to dig deep and remain
                                                                                                     calm and focused on what you’re
                                                                                                     doing, otherwise several lives
                                                                                                     including my own could have been
                                                                                                     in jeopardy. I wasn’t equipped for
                                                                                                     this, having not had any formal
                                                                                                     hostage negotiation training.
                                                                                                        “Survival instinct also plays a part
                                                                                                     in these situations and until that
                                                                                                     day I was unaware how profound
                                                                                                     it was,” she says.
        PEOPLE IN THE LAW
        PROFILE                                                                                      The importance of
                                                                                                     human connection

Overcoming
                                                                                                     Normally with litigation situations,
                                                                                                     Rabia Siddique says lawyers already
                                                                                                     have some training to take the

gunpoint negotiation
                                                                                                     human connection and emotion
                                                                                                     out of the process.
                                                                                                        “We talk about putting on our

as a lawyer in Iraq
                                                                                                     lawyer’s hats which traditionally
                                                                                                     meant taking the emotion away and
                                                                                                     being sterile in our approach. We
                                                                                                     associate professional with almost
                                                                                                     being cold and strategic but the
BY NICK                                                                                              Iraqi situation reminded me that
   BUTCHER                                                                                           there is room to maintain some
                                        A unique story                                               humanity and personal connec-
                                        It involved the detention of two British SAS soldiers        tion in our work. Never lose sight
Irrefutably one of the best             at a police compound in the city of Basra, who were          of what people you’re representing
skills a lawyer will ever take to a     dressed in local attire. They were carrying out a covert     are going through in that it is real
meeting is excellent negotiation        investigation of that police force over allegations of       and important,” she says.
skills, but imagine having to use       infiltration by Shiite militants who were apparently            Ms Siddique remained calm and
those skills to negotiate the release   taking vigilante revenge against Sunnis.                     was slowly resolving the situation
of yourself and two soldiers in a          Rabia Siddique was sent to the police headquarters        by explaining to the Iraqi chief
deteriorating war zone.                 to secure the release of the soldiers.                       legal officer in the station that it
  Australian-based criminal and            She was the second-choice negotiator. The British         was illegal to detain British soldiers
human rights lawyer Rabia Siddique      Army’s first option was rejected by an Iraqi judge who       under an accord agreed between the
was a guest speaker at the In-house     said he would only deal with Rabia Siddique as he felt       Iraqi Provincial Government and the
Lawyers Association of New Zealand      she was a lawyer he could trust.                             coalition forces.
conference, held in May.                   However, it soon become apparent that this was a             But the situation outside the com-
  Her story of an experience she        very tense and dangerous situation.                          pound took a violent turn with mili-
had as a military lawyer for the           Ms Siddique soon found herself on her knees with the      tants storming the facility after they
British Army in Iraq in 2005 was        cold tip of an AK47 pressed into her forehead.               were fed false information by police
both compelling and inspirational.          “The training and skills I had as a lawyer in relation   that the detained SAS soldiers were

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                                                                             and expertise and strength to the table and you should
                                                                             take time to listen to what value they bring. That’s when
                                                                             you realise you don’t have to do everything and you’re
                                                                             not in this alone, and a collection of minds and talent
                                                                             has such potential to yield great results,” she says.
                                                                               Once her ordeal was over and they were all back
                                                                             at base, there was little appetite for Rabia Siddique’s
                                                                             version of the story at the police compound, yet she had
                                                                             been intensely involved in negotiating their release and
                                                                             wanted recognition for her part in the crisis.

                                                                             The battle for equal status
                                                                             She says there are parallels between her fight for recog-
                                                                             nition and that of the battle some women in law have to
                                                                             gain senior status in law firms, such as making partner.
                                                                                “The decision to write me out of the incident was a
                                                                             political one. With regard to what is happening in our
                                                                             profession and the challenges women have, I think it has
                                                                             a lot to do with the culture. We are still a very traditional
                                                                             and conservative profession,” she says.
                                                                                Ms Siddique says conservatism in the legal sector
                                                                             limits opportunity for diversity of thought and inno-
                                                                             vative approaches.
                                                                                “It’s that culture which is driving some women to
                                                                             leave the profession because the battle gets too hard
                                                                             and exhausting and they realise they don’t want to do
                                                                             it anymore. It’s a tragedy because we will lose talent
                                                                             and a pool of expertise. We need to challenge this and
                                                                             if so change our narrative and perspectives in relation
                                                                             to how we regard ourselves as a profession.”
                                                                                She says diversity is broader than just gender and
                                                                             includes age, experience and cultural diversity.
                                                                                “Better understanding and embracing diversity in its
Israeli spies, making them a target                                          broadest sense will only improve and strengthen the
for reprisal attacks by both Shiites                                         legal profession,” she says. ▪
and Sunnis who despised Israel.
   The militants stormed the com-                                            Rabia Siddique is the author of a memoir, Equal
pound and briefly took control of                                            Justice, My Journey as a Woman, a Soldier and a
the situation before Rabia Siddique’s                                        Muslim (Macmillan, 2013). Rabia is holding an all-day
captors regained the upper hand.                                             leadership workshop for NZLS CLE Ltd in Auckland
   Eventually, after a further tense                                         (19 September) and Wellington (20 September).
stand-off, and the threat of exe-
cution, negotiations between the
governor of Basra and the British
consul-general secured their release.

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        PEOPLE IN THE LAW
        ON THE MOVE

Pheroze Jagose                                 Solomons acquires                           law firms in Christchurch and Dunedin
appointed to High Court                        new staff                                   before joining Solomons.
                                                                                           Charlotte Carr has joined as a solicitor.
Wellington barrister Pheroze Jagose            A number of new staff have joined Dunedin   Admitted in 2015, Charlotte has worked
has been appointed a                           firm Solomons from another Dunedin-         primarily in dispute resolution, including
Judge of the High Court                        based firm.                                 civil litigation, relationship property and
and will sit in Auckland.                      Amy Marslin has joined                      employment law. She will continue with
Justice Jagose graduated                       as a partner, specialising                  the same in combination with general
LLB from the University                        in property, commercial,                    practice.
of Auckland in 1987 and                        trusts, estate planning                     Feifei Zhou, law clerk who is studying
MA in international                            and mental health law.                      law at the University of Otago has also
relations from Lancaster                       Admitted in December                        joined along with PA Shelley Ross. Feifei
University, England. He was admitted in        2002 after graduating                       is fluent in English and Mandarin and holds
September 1988 and initially worked as a       from the University of                      a degree in environmental science from
legal officer at the Northern Government       Otago Amy joined another Dunedin firm       Anhui University in China. Shelley has
Officers’ union and the New Zealand            and became a partner there in 2011 before   worked in Otago law firms for 28 years.
Air Line Pilots’ Association. He joined        joining the Solomons partnership in June
Chapman Tripp in 1995 and became a part-       2017. She has acted as a court appointed    Barristers set up at
ner in 2000. Justice Jagose commenced          Counsel for Subject Persons for 9 years.    Left Bank Chambers
practice as a barrister sole in February       Dick Crush has joined
2016, specialising in competition and trade    as a partner, specialising                  Richard Johnstone and Grant Slevin have
practices as well as company, securities,      in property, commer-                        together set up as barristers at Left Bank
employment, public and administrative          cial, rural law, trusts                     Chambers, 8/18 Bernard Street, Addington,
law.                                           and estate planning.                        Christchurch.
                                               Dick graduated from                         Richard Johnstone retired from partner-
Gerard van Bohemen                             the University of Otago                     ship at Wynn Williams on 31 May 2017 after
appointed to High Court                        and was admitted in                         over 27 years. His areas of practice remain
                                               December 1975. A former Air New Zealand     civil litigation and disputes – primarily
New Zealand’s United Nations Permanent         director he has also worked as State        insurance, construction, cyber and general
Representative Gerardus (Gerard)               Solicitor in Samoa and has extensive        commercial – and professional standards
Jacobus van Bohemen has been                   experience as a litigator.                  and liability.
appointed a Judge of the High Court.           Michaela Ryan has                           Grant Slevin was a member of Wynn
Justice Bohemen graduated BA, LLB(Hons)        joined as a partner,                        Williams’ insurance law team before
from Victoria University of Wellington and     specialising in dispute                     becoming a senior investigating solicitor
practised at Russell McVeagh for two years     resolution, litigation,                     at the Christchurch office of the Insolvency
before moving to Buddle Findlay where          employment and                              and Trustee service. He is co-author of The
he spent eight years and became a part-        relationship property.                      Law of Insolvency in New Zealand, and his
ner. He then practised at Chen Palmer &        Michaela was admit-                         practice focus will be insolvency and debt
Partners in Wellington as a partner. Justice   ted in May 2002 and                         recovery, trusts, estates and general civil
Bohemen specialised in environmental           returned to New Zealand in 2014 from the    litigation/dispute resolution.
law and resource management and civil          Channel Islands where she was a senior
litigation. He became Director of the          associate with Mourant Ozannes. She is an   Elizabeth Longworth
Legal Division of the Ministry of Foreign      experienced litigator and has appeared in   appointed to FMA
Affairs and Trade in 2005 and was subse-       the District and High Courts and a range
quently appointed Deputy Secretary for         of tribunals.                               Former New Zealand lawyer Elizabeth
Multilateral and Legal Affairs. In 2015 he     Rob Pile has joined as                      Longworth has been appointed to the
was appointed New Zealand’s Permanent          a solicitor, practising in                  Financial Markets Authority for a three-
Representative to the United Nations           the areas of property and                   year term. She replaces outgoing FMA
and led New Zealand’s mission during           commercial law, rural                       board member Shelley Cave, who has
its two-year term as a non-permanent           transactions, trusts and                    been a member since 2011. Since 2003
member of the Security Council. He will        estate planning. Rob was                    Ms Longworth has held a number of
sit in Auckland.                               admitted in December                        senior leadership positions in the United
                                               2013 and practised with                     Nations.

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David Gubb appointed                                  Rights Commission’s Disability Rights          Copeland Ashcroft Law
Associate                                             Commissioner on 31 July, replacing Paul        promotes two lawyers
                                                      Gibson. Ms Tesoriero holds an LLB, BA
David Gubb has been                                   and Postgraduate Diploma in Public             Copeland Ashcroft Law has made two
appointed Associate                                   Management, and was General Manager,           recent promotions.
at Mount Maunganui                                    Systems and Partnerships with Statistics       Carolyn Moffat has
firm Beachside Legal.                                 New Zealand from February 2016.                been promoted to
David was admitted in                                                                                senior solicitor. After
2004 after graduating                                 Alexandria Till Harkness                       completing her law
from Otago University.                                Henry Senior Associate                         degree at the University
He joined the firm in                                                                                of NSW in Sydney she
2016 after moving from                                Harkness Henry has                             joined the firm in March
Hamilton and has also worked in Te Aroha,             appointed Alexandria Till                      2015, working in the
Tauranga and London. David specialises in             a senior associate in the                      Queenstown office. Before studying law
property and commercial law.                          RMA, Employment and                            Carolyn worked in HR Management roles
                                                      Alcohol Licensing team.                        in New Zealand, and overseas. She provides
Fulbright Award for                                   Alexandria is a specialist                     advice and guidance to both employers and
Wellington lawyer                                     employment lawyer and                          employees on a wide range of employment
                                                      worked exclusively for                         law and health and safety matters.
Buddle Findlay solicitor                              employers in her previous in-house role,       Rebecca Laney has
Lottie Boardman has                                   but now welcomes clients from both sides       been promoted to
been awarded a Fulbright                              of the table. She moved to employment law      senior solicitor. Rebecca
Science and Innovation                                after time spent in the dispute resolution     completed law and psy-
Graduate Award. The                                   group of a large multinational firm in the     chology degrees at the
award will assist her to                              United Arab Emirates.                          University of Otago and
study towards a Masters                                                                              joined the firm in May
of Environmental                                      In-house lawyer on                             2013, initially working
Management at Yale’s                                  financial advice code                          in the Invercargill office but now based
School of Forestry & Environmental Studies            working group                                  in the Dunedin office. She offers advice and
in Connecticut, United States. Lottie starts                                                         guidance to both employers and employees
her two year programme at Yale in August              Auckland in-house lawyer Graeme                on a wide range of employment law and
2017.                                                 Edwards is one of nine people appointed        health and safety matters.
                                                      by Commerce and Consumer Affairs
New Partner at                                        Minister Jacqui Dean to a working group        New staff join
Hesketh Henry                                         to develop the new code of conduct for         Fonterra legal team
                                                      financial advice. Mr Edwards is General
Hesketh Henry has                                     Counsel and Company Secretary at ASB           Jackie Floyd has joined
promoted Helen                                        Bank.                                          Fonterra’s legal team as
Macfarlane to partner.                                                                               General Counsel – Group
Helen was admitted as                                 Former lawyer to lead                          Functions and Farm
a barrister in London                                 Expo 2020 involvement                          Source. Jackie was previ-
before moving to New                                                                                 ously Associate General
York to work as a litiga-                             Former lawyer Clayton Kimpton has been         Counsel at Vector Ltd.
tion attorney for 15 years.                           appointed New Zealand’s Commissioner-          Before joining Vector
She joined Hesketh Henry in August 2007               General to Expo 2020, which will be held in    she was a principal at Chapman Tripp,
as a senior associate in the role of special          Dubai, United Arab Emirates. Mr Kimpton        where she worked across a broad range
counsel. Helen works in insurance, con-               was a partner at Kensington Swan and           of corporate and commercial law areas.
struction law and commercial property                 chairman of the firm for eight years. He was   Jackie was named New Zealand In-House
disputes.                                             appointed Regional Director India, Middle      Lawyer of the Year at the
                                                      East & Africa with New Zealand Trade and       2016 ILANZ In-House
Disability Rights                                     Enterprise in 2013, and Consul-General to      Law Awards.
Commissioner appointed                                Dubai and Northern Emirates before his         Luke Facer has
                                                      current role.                                  joined the team as
D i s a b i l i ty a d vo c a t e a n d f o r m e r                                                  General Counsel –
Paralympian Paula Tesoriero took up a                                                                Global Consumer and
three-year appointment as the Human                                                                  Foodservice. Luke joined

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Fonterra from Orion Health, where he was        WRMK Lawyers                                  Promotions at Baldwins
General Counsel and Company Secretary           appoint new Director
and Vice President-Asia. Luke started his                                                     Baldwins has promoted three staff in their
career working in the legal team at Gen-i       W R M K L aw ye r s i n                       Auckland and Wellington offices.
focusing on ICT procurement, before             Whangarei have                                Kate Giddens of the
spending six years working in private           appointed a new                               firm’s Wellington office
practice at Russell McVeagh in Auckland         director. Chris Taylor                        has been promoted to
and Cravath, Swaine & Moore in New York.        graduated and was                             senior associate. A bar-
                                                admitted to the bar in                        rister and solicitor, Kate
Scott Wight becomes                             2005. In 2010, he joined                      specialises in trade mark
Gascoigne Wicks partner                         the WRMK business                             protection, management
                                                department. Chris handles corporate and       and enforcement. Kate
Blenheim firm Gascoigne                         business legal matters, including securi-     works with clients across a range of indus-
Wicks has appointed                             ties, capital raising, funds management,      tries including those in the automotive,
Scott Wight a Partner.                          contract negotiation and drafting, finance,   entertainment, food and beverage, sports-
Scott was admitted in                           joint ventures, limited partnerships, and     wear and telecommunication industries.
February 2006 and has                           other general business law.                   Dr Victoria Argyle
worked with the firm                                                                          has been promoted to
since shortly after his                         McKenzie Cox now                              associate at the firm’s
admission. He works in                          solicitor at McWilliam                        Auckland office. Victoria
the commercial and conveyancing area.           Rennie Lawyers                                specialises in specialist
                                                                                              chemistry and life-
Rachael Schmidt-                                McKenzie Cox has been                         sciences and provides
McCleave new                                    promoted to solicitor at                      patent advice to clients
censorship President                            Wellington family law                         operating in the chemical and biotech-
                                                specialists McWilliam                         nology industries; freedom to operate,
Wellington barrister Rachael Schmidt-           Rennie. McKenzie gradu-                       prosecution of New Zealand and Australian
McCleave has been appointed President           ated from the University                      patent applications, and advising clients
of the Film and Literature Board of Review.     of Waikato in December                        on infringement and patentability issues.
She succeeds former President Kate              2016 with an LLB and                          Harriet Tregonning is
Davenport QC whose term has expired.            was admitted in the Hamilton High Court       also a new associate in
Ms Schmidt-McCleave was admitted in             in June 2017. She practises in family and     the Baldwins’ Auckland
1996 and worked at Chen Palmer and              criminal law, and has a particular interest   office. Harriet is a reg-
Russell McVeagh before spending time in         in relationship property, care of children    istered patent attorney
London. On her return she worked at the         and domestic violence proceedings.            and her main practice
Crown Law Office from 2002 to 2011 and                                                        areas are in the fields
then Minter Ellison Rudd Watts before           Melissa Bourke appointed                      of biotechnology, agri-
joining the independent bar in 2014. She        Innes Dean Tararua                            cultural technologies, and animal and
has extensive experience in public law and      Law Ltd director                              human health. She also handles prosecu-
judicial review and is an AMINZ Associate.                                                    tion of patent applications and resolution
                                                Melissa Bourke has                            of disputes before the New Zealand and
Cameron Russell                                 been appointed a direc-                       Australian patent offices.
promoted                                        tor of Manawatu law
                                                firm Innes Dean Tararua                       Deputy Banking
Tauranga firm Cooney                            Law Ltd. Melissa joined                       Ombudsman –
Lees Morgan has pro-                            the firm in 2012 and has                      Prevention appointed
moted Cameron Russell                           experience in the areas
to senior associate. After                      of property, relation-                        Tina Mitchell has been
joining CLM in 2010                             ship property, estates and trusts with a      a p p o i n t e d D e p u ty
Cameron was admitted                            special interest in elder law and mental      Banking Ombudsman
shortly thereafter before                       incapacity. She sits on the Manawatu          – Prevention for the
moving to Auckland                              Lawyer for Subject Person Panel and the       Banking Ombudsman
in 2012. He spent some time working in          Manawatu branch of the New Zealand            Scheme. Tina was admit-
Sydney for two law firms before return-         Law Society. Melissa also educational         ted as a barrister and
ing to CLM in 2016. Cameron specialises         seminars for local medical practitioners      solicitor in 1995 and has worked in a range
in residential, office, retail and industrial   on the developments in the law regarding      of resolution and leadership contexts over
property development and construction.          mental incapacity.                            the last 20 years, including private practice,

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regulatory services, policy and advisory    Katrina Hammon                                Sefton Powrie now
roles. Her role at Deputy Ombudsman is to   becomes partner at                            Grove Darlow associate
capture prevention insights from customer   Duncan Cotterill
trends and sector developments, and share                                                 Auckland firm Grove Darlow & Partners
those to encourage best practice by banks   Katrina Hammon                                has appointed Sefton
and informed decisions by customers.        has become a partner                          Powrie an associate.
                                            in Duncan Cotterill’s                         Sefton graduated
Minter Ellison Rudd Watts                   Auckland office. She                          from the University of
promotes five lawyers                       specialises in franchis-                      Canterbury and was
                                            ing, distribution and                         admitted in 2014. He
Minter Ellison Rudd Watts has announced     licensing with a par-                         joined the firm’s litiga-
the promotion of five lawyers into senior   ticular focus on retail,                      tion department in 2015.
positions.                                  intellectual property, network growth and
Charlotte Carey has                         international expansion. Before joining       Wynn Williams
become a senior associ-                     Duncan Cotterill Katrina was the senior       promotes two lawyers
ate in the Banking and                      legal counsel at SumoSalad Group and a
Financial Services team                     senior associate at global firm Norton Rose   Sinead Hart has joined Wynn Williams
in Wellington. Charlotte                    Fulbright where she spent just under four     corporate and commercial team in the
joined the firm as a                        years as part of its Sydney practice.         Auckland office as a senior associate. She
senior solicitor in 2014                                                                  has over 15 years’ international legal expe-
from a boutique law                         Kensington Swan                               rience gained at major accounting and law
firm. Since joining, Charlotte has become   promotes new Partner                          firms, and moved to New Zealand in 2010.
instrumental to the firm’s insolvency and                                                 Sinead specialises in corporate advisory
recoveries practice.                        Henry Brandts-Giesen                          work and has experience in litigation and
Stephanie de Groot has                      has been promoted to                          settlement negotiation.
become a senior associ-                     partner in the Private                        Lucy Hodgkinson has joined the firm’s
ate in the Environment                      We a l t h p r a c t i ce o f                 corporate and commercial team in the
team, Auckland.                             Kensington Swan.                              Auckland office as a solicitor. Lucy was
Stephanie joined the                        Henry began his legal                         admitted as a barrister and solicitor in
firm’s Environment                          career at Kensington                          December 2016.
practice as a law clerk                     Swan and returned to
in 2010 after spending                      the firm in 2016 after a decade practising    Five lawyers promoted
time at Auckland Regional Council in        internationally. He specialises in private    at Lane Neave
their coastal and air quality compliance    wealth and his advisory practice covers
teams. She specialises in all aspects of    family and offshore trusts, residency by      Lane Neave has promoted Joshua Leckie to
environment law.                            investment, estate planning, relationship     the partnership. Based in the Queenstown
Nick Frith has become                       property, collective investment scheme,       o f f i ce , Jo s h u a wa s
a senior associate in                       unit trusts, superannuation and employee      admitted in July 2009
the Dispute Resolution                      share schemes.                                after graduating LLB,
team in Auckland. Nick                                                                    BSc from the University
summer clerked with the                     Jane Searle new                               of Otago. He specialises
firm before returning as a                  Child Matters CEO                             in resource management
Dispute Resolution Law                                                                    and commercial property
Clerk in 2010. Since then                   Former lawyer Jane Searle has been            and worked at a major
he has developed expertise in insurance     appointed the new chief executive of          New Zealand law firm before joining Lane
and brokering law.                          the child advocacy organisation Child         Neave.
Jeryl-lynn Govender in the Corporate        Matters. Ms Searle worked as a bar-           Four staff have been promoted to the
team, Wellington has been promoted to       rister and solicitor practising criminal      position of senior solicitor, all in the firm’s
senior solicitor.                           and family law before joining the New         Christchurch office.
Zoe Barnes in the Corporate – Tax team      Zealand Police where she worked in the        Rebecca Cook was
in Auckland has been promoted to senior     child abuse team as a detective. She          admitted in August
solicitor.                                  has spent the last two years as general       2014 and holds LLB,
                                            manager of Child Matters.                     BA and LLM (first class
                                                                                          honours) degrees. She
                                                                                          specialises in building
                                                                                          and construction law
                                                                                          and has advised Crown

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departments, building and construction      specialises in immigration law and is fluent
companies, and commercial and residential   in Mandarin and Cantonese. As well as
property owners and investors.              providing immigration advice she provides
Sophie Reese gradu-                         support to the firm’s Chinese clients across
ated LLB, BA from the                       all practice areas.
University of Otago and
was admitted in July                        Peter Watts QC in
2014. She specialises in                    practice at Bankside
resource management                         Chambers
law and has advised
local councils, major                       Former University of
developers and community organisations,     Auckland Professor of
as well as commercial and residential       Law Peter Watts QC
property owners.                            has commenced full-time
Sarah Copeland was                          practice at Auckland’s
admitted in August                          Bankside Chambers. Mr
2014 after gaining an                       Watts specialises in the
LLB at the University                       law of agency and com-
of Canterbury. She is a                     pany and commercial law, and is editor of
member of the firm’s                        Bowstead and Reynolds on Agency and co-au-
dispute resolution team                     thor of Company Law in New Zealand. He
and concentrates on civil and commer-       was recently appointed Visiting Professor
cial litigation and the                     at the Law Faculty, University of Oxford and
resolution of insurance,                    will teach there in October each year.
contractual and property
disputes.                                   Two new partners
Winnie Chen graduated                       appointed at White
LLB at the University of                    Fox & Jones
Waikato and was admit-
ted in July 2013. Winnie                    Christchurch firm White Fox & Jones has
                                            appointed two new partners.
                                            Stuart Stock joined
                                            the firm in September

Information
                                            2012 after spending six
                                            years as a partner in a

in People
                                            boutique commercial
                                            property firm in London.

in the Law
                                            Stuart was admitted as
                                            a barrister and solicitor
                                            in September 1993. He specialises in com-
LawTalk is happy to publish informa-        mercial property and insurance matters.
tion free of charge about appoint-          Mark Orman specialises
ments, awards and other changes             in commercial devel-
in New Zealand’s legal profession.          opment, buying and
Please send your contribution to            selling assets, leasing
 editor@lawsociety.org.nz, along           and property finance.
with a jpeg photo if appropriate.           He was admitted as a
To be able to include as many               barrister and solicitor
announcements as possible brevity           in September 1998 and
is key and material received may            joined White Fox & Jones in January 2017
be edited. The information will also        after working at national firms in Auckland
be published in the NZLS website            and Christchurch as well as time overseas
On the Move section, which is ref-          working for international firms in London,
erenced in LawPoints each week.             Abu Dhabi and Melbourne.

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        NZLS AT A GLANCE

                     Lawyers Complaints
                     Service in its tenth year
                                       T
                                                h e N e w Z e a l a n d L aw         and their resolution is transparent and easily accessible.
                                                Society is now into its tenth        Elsewhere in this issue we provide some provisional
                                                year as operator of the Lawyers      information on the Lawyers Complaints Service in the
                                         Complaints Service. The Lawyers and         just-concluded year to 30 June 2017.
                                         Conveyancers Act 2006 came into force          The 2006 legislative reform also introduced a three-tier
                                         on 1 August 2008. The Act brought in        system for resolution of complaints against members
                                         many changes to the regulation of legal     of the legal profession and their employees. The Legal
                                         services, but perhaps the most signifi-     Complaints Review Officer (LCRO) is funded by a levy
                                         cant was the requirement for the Law        on all lawyers, but administered by the Ministry of
                                         Society to establish an accessible, fair    Justice. The LCRO’s role is to review decisions made
                                         and efficient lawyers complaints service.   by Law Society and Society of Conveyancers stand-
                                           This was a fundamental shift in           ards committees on complaints against lawyers and
                                         the process for managing complaints         conveyancers. Around 17% of complaints closed by the
                                         against lawyers. A national service         Lawyers Complaints Service go on review to the LCRO.
                                         replaced the complaints handling            The problem is that the LCRO has a backlog of over 500
                                         measures of 14 independent district         unresolved cases. It can take three years for a decision
                                         law societies and the limitations of        to come from the LCRO. This is not acceptable.
                     the former Law Practitioners Act 1982 which had little             The Law Society is proud of the progress it has made
                     built-in consumer protection. For complaints to be              in introducing innovative processes in the Lawyers
                     actionable, the conduct was required to reach a high            Complaints Service. However, it is clear that the backlog
                     threshold. From 2008 the governing legislation focus            of cases filed for review by the LCRO must be fixed before
                     shifted from lawyers’ fitness to practise to include and        we can go any further. NZLS obviously has a big stake
                     prioritise protection of the public. The Law Society was        in helping resolve this. Each lawyer pays $125 a year to
                     required to ensure the consistency and quality of the           fund the LCRO. The worry and stress caused by waiting
                     new complaints service throughout New Zealand. A                for years for an LCRO decision is unfair on everyone.
                     new threshold of unsatisfactory conduct with a stat-            What could be a world-leading professional complaints
                     utory definition was introduced. Non-lawyers were               system is let down by the LCRO problems.
                     required for the first time to serve on lawyers standards          What needs to happen? It’s important to note that
                     committees. The powers and jurisdiction of standards            LCRO decisions are generally of a high quality. The prob-
                     committees were significantly expanded. And the Law             lem lies in the processes which the LCRO is required
                     Society was required to report to the Minister of Justice       to follow. What should be a quick and robust tribunal
                     on the exercise of its regulatory functions and powers.         is tied up with the need to hold a full hearing for every
                        A lot has happened since 1 August 2008. The Law              review unless the parties agree otherwise. From years
                     Society and legal profession have embraced the broader          of discussion and analysis – and I can assure you that
                     horizons. The focus has been one of continuous improve-         the Law Society has been active in pressing for change
                     ment and development to ensure that all parties involved        – it is clear a legislative change is needed. The Courts
                     in legal services complaints benefit from an expeditious,       and Tribunals Enhanced Services Bill is being drafted,
                     impartial and very accessible process. A complaints             and we are advised this will contain provisions which
                     feedback system was introduced to assist with enhance-          specifically target the LCRO’s problems. However, the
                     ments. The Early Resolution Service introduced in 2013          progress of the bill is taking time. The New Zealand Law
                     has made significant improvements in the time taken             Society is aware of the growing exasperation of lawyers
                     to handle complaints and in the experience of users.            and others who are involved in the LCRO logjam. We
                     Standards committee members receive focused training            believe it is time to act and to introduce the bill into
                     and regular reporting means information on complaints           the parliamentary process.
                                                                                        Christine Grice
                                                                                        Executive Director, New Zealand Law Society.

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        NZLS AT A GLANCE

                                                                                  Power to collect
                                                                                  information on
                                                                                  all NZ-written
                                                                                  insurance urged
                                                                                  NZLS says the Reserve Bank should have the power
                                                                                  – and where appropriate should exercise that power – to
                                                                                  collect information about all insurance written in New
                                                                                  Zealand, including insurance provided by foreign insur-
                                                                                  ers. In comments to the Reserve Bank on its Issues Paper:
                                                              ◂ At POLA,         Review of the Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Act 2010,
                                                                 left to right,   the Law Society says not all foreign insurers providing

NZLS President
                                                                 Kathryn          insurance coverage in New Zealand are required to be
                                                                 Beck and         licensed. This is done on a case by case basis, and a

attends POLA
                                                                 Bronwyn          recent IMF report has highlighted that there is no data
                                                                 Jones            on the number of overseas insurers offering insurance
                                                                 (NZLS),          contracts in New Zealand without a licence.
                                                                 Majorie             “The insurance prudential regulator needs to have
New Zealand Law Society President Kathryn Beck                   Nichol and       sufficient detail of the insurance business written in New
attended the 28th Presidents of Law Associations of              Pauline          Zealand in order to be able to appropriately supervise
Asia (POLA) Conference in Colombo, Sri Lanka from 22             Wright (Law      insurers,” NZLS says in its comments. “The Law Society
to 24 July. POLA was established in 1990 and its annual          Council of       recommends that the Reserve Bank be provided with
meetings have been a valuable non-political conference           Australia).      more flexible exemption powers to permit appropriate
for international knowledge exchange and co-operation                             oversight without inhibiting participation in the New
between lawyers’ organisations. POLA is made up of 30                             Zealand insurance market.”
law societies, bar associations and lawyers associations
across Asia and the Pacific.

                                                                                  David Campbell
  This year’s event was attended by over 300 delegates,
and included sessions on professional privilege, tech-

                                                                                  re-elected
nology and the future of the legal profession, the role of
the legal profession in social justice, alternative dispute

                                                                                  President of NZLS
resolution and foreign direct investment.

                                                                                  Auckland branch
Agreement with
proposed Privacy
                                                                                  David Campbell was re-elected unopposed as
                                                                                  President of the NZLS Auckland branch, as announced

Code amendments
                                                                                  at the branch AGM on 21 June.
                                                                                    Mr Campbell is a partner with Kensington Swan
                                                                                  and specialises in commercial and civil litigation and
                                                                                  provides common law advice.
NZLS says it agrees with proposed amendments                                      Robert Makgill was elected to the Council and Chris
to the Health information, Telecommunications                                     Patterson and Sue Styants were re-elected.
Information and Credit Reporting Privacy Codes                                      Members of the branch Council after the AGM are
to align them with changes introduced by the                                      as follows:
Intelligence and Security Act 2017. The Act comes                                 President: David Campbell.
into force on 28 September 2017 and NZLS has pro-                                 Council: Sarah Armstrong, Robert Makgill, Chris
vided comments to the Privacy Commissioner on                                     Patterson, Charlie Piho, Suzanne Robertson QC, Sue
the proposed changes.                                                             Styants.

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                                                                            CPD audits show
Russell Boot elected
                                                                            increase in webinar/
NZLS Waikato
                                                                            online learning
Bay of Plenty
branch President                                                            The third full Continuing Professional
                                                                            Development (CPD) year ended on 31 March 2017. A
                                                                            target rate of 95% for declaration of compliance was
Hamilton lawyer Russell Boot                                                set, and by the declaration deadline of 7 April, 95.1% of
has been elected President of                                               lawyers had declared compliance. All non-declarations
the New Zealand Law Society’s                                               are followed up and by 30 June 99.89% of eligible law-
Waikato Bay of Plenty branch.                                               yers had completed declarations.
   Mr Boot was admitted as a bar-                                              NZLS carries out audits of compliance with the CPD
rister and solicitor in May 2001,                                           requirements. A random process resulted in 1350 lawyers
and was elected at the branch                                               selected for audit – 10% of all lawyers. This was reduced
AGM on 21 June 2017. He practises                                           from 12% the previous year because of a high level of
at Gavin Boot Law.                                                          compliance found in the two previous audits. A further
   Members of the branch Council                                            91 practitioners were added due to either a late decla-
elected at the AGM are as follows:                                          ration or where previous audit contact had suggested
President: Russell Boot.                                                    a follow-up audit would be appropriate. By mid-July
Vice-President: Terry Singh.                                                656 audits had been completed, with 71% meeting the
Council: Phillip Cornegé, Brendan Cullen, James                             requirements. A further 13% were compliant with the
Gurnick, Marie McLeod, Emma Miles, Rita Nabney, Johan                       CPD rules after receiving support from the auditor.
Niemand, Adam Pell, Jesse Savage, Gene Tomlinson.                              NZLS Professional Development Manager Ken Trass
                                                                            says for the most part, the trends of the past two years

Black hole
                                                                            have continued.
                                                                               “The average number of recorded hours in CPDPRs

proposals
                                                                            increased to 15.6 in the 2016/17 year, up from 12.1 in
                                                                            2014/15. CPD by learning area is spread among the

supported
                                                                            various differing practice areas, but there has been a
                                                                            definite surge in in-house focused learning topics which
                                                                            were up 5.3% to 22% of all topics,” he says.
                                                                               “Significantly, CPD by webinar or online platforms
Government proposals to seek                                                has increased again and made up 28% of all training in
greater certainty through legislation                                       2016/17, and this was up 8.2% on the previous year. By
in respect of the tax treatment of                                          contrast, external courses or seminars made up 32% of
“feasibility expenditure” and to                                            all CPD in 2016/17, which was down 9.2% on the previous
address anomalous instances of                                              year, and down 22% since 2014/15.”
“black hole” expenditure are sup-
ported by the New Zealand Law
Society. NZLS has commented on
the discussion document Black hole
and feasibility expenditure, which
proposes a new, specific deductibil-                              Trusted practice management
ity rule for feasibility expenditure
that is based on the IFRS treatment
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                                                 Law reform
                                                 committee
                                                 applications sought

Law reform
                                                 The two-year terms of appointment to the Law
                                                 Society’s law reform committees expire in September,

involvement has
                                                 and applications are now open for committees which
                                                 will operate from September 2017 to September 2019.

many benefits
                                                 Section 65(e) of the Lawyers and Conveyancers Act 2006
                                                 requires NZLS to assist and promote, for the purpose of
                                                 upholding the rule of law and facilitating the adminis-
                                                 tration of justice in New Zealand, the reform of the law.
Participation in the law reform process          This continues a long history of involvement by the Law
through membership of the NZLS                   Society in New Zealand law reform, with 15 specialist
Employment Law Committee has been one            committees and the NZLS Law Reform Committee at
of the most rewarding experiences I have had     the forefront.
in my legal career. Like all the committees,        Comprised of volunteers from across the legal pro-
the Employment committee was made up             fession, the committees have input on a wide range of
of lawyers from around the country. What         legal issues and prepare submissions on matters ranging
brought us together was a shared interest        from discussion papers, exposure drafts of legislation,
in employment law and practice. I was            legislation reviews, and parliamentary bills. Applications
impressed with the collegial spirit which        should be made before 5pm, Friday 11 August on the
was there right from our first meeting, and      application form.
the working relationships which were struck
between members have endured. I have a           The form and information on the committees is
passion for the law of employment and it         available at lawsociety.org.nz/law-reform-2017 or
is an invigorating experience to work with       from wayne.anderson@lawsociety.org.nz.
others who have the same interests – even if
we might respectfully disagree sometimes on

                                                 NZLS Wellington
the correct way forward. It’s very different,
however, from representing and advocating

                                                 branch election
for the interests of a client. The committee
discussion is about the best way forward for

                                                 not required
the law as it affects all New Zealanders. How
will a proposal work in practice? What are
the likely issues?
Working on a NZLS law reform committee
also gave me a feeling that I was there at the   Because the number of nominations did not exceed
development of an important area of law. Our     the number of available positions, no election was
committee had an underlying air of shared        required at the AGM of the NZLS Wellington branch
purpose and a sense that we were engaged         on 21 June. Amendments made to the branch rules
in an important collaborative exercise that      in 2016 mean the new Council has been elected for a
would have tangible benefits for our country,    two-year term.
now and into the future. This is important          Members of the Wellington branch Council are:
work and I would urge any member of the          President: David Dunbar.
profession who would like to indulge their       Vice-Presidents: Annette Gray, Steph Dyhrberg.
passion for the shape of a particular field of   Council: Arti Chand, Chris Griggs, Yemo Guo, Jessie
law with the chance to make a real contribu-     Hunt, Mike Lennard, Cathy Rodgers, Mark Wilton,
tion to the justice system.                      Gretchen Freeman (Wairarapa representative), Emma
   Kathryn Beck,                                 von Veh (Young Lawyers representative), Mark Wilton
   President, New Zealand Law Society            (ILANZ representative).

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Letters to the Editor
Read your own                                 achievement of those lawyers who were           expiry date has now been transferred to
                                              All Blacks should still be celebrated and I     the reverse of the licence. This now requires
unconscious                                   decided there was no reason not to publish      two pages to be copied and retained with
                                              the story, as long as we also took steps        each A & I form for each person on each
bias articles                                 to recognise the contribution made by           transaction.
                                              women lawyers to New Zealand sport.                Result: The profit of the practice of law
A story on All Blacks who are/were            As soon as the All Black article went off       is hard to sustain as overhead costs eat
lawyers might set the hearts of half your     to print we started researching lawyer par-     away at it. The change has doubled the
readership thumping and even allow            ticipation in other sports, and the results     time and cost to obtain proof of ID. A minor
them to spend a six-minute unit or two        for our netball research can be found in        cost individually but costly cumulatively.
dreaming of swapping their pinstripes for     Tail End on page 90.
a pair of studded rugby boots, but spare                                                      Land transfer tax statement
a thought for the 50% of lawyers who                                                          How did the Section allow a comparatively
aren’t blokes. Yes, I’m talking about all     Property Law                                    simple one-page form to be converted to
the women lawyers out there who are also/                                                     a nonsensical three-page form? I hear the
have been athletes. Where are they? Let’s     Section – What                                  change was due to “some lawyers” not
find them and devote as many column                                                           being able to understand the one-page
inches to their dual achievements as you      does it do?                                     form. If that is the case and they were
have to the chaps.                                                                            confused should they be entitled to prac-
   So I’m looking forward to a follow-up      It being Queen’s Birthday weekend and           tice in the conveyancing field? Hundreds
story about all the women lawyers who         having missed out, again, for I don’t know      of lawyers practising as conveyancers did
have represented New Zealand across a         how many consecutive years on obtaining         not find the form confusing.
range of sports given you can’t do a story    an award it seemed timely to put pen to            Result: This change has resulted in three
about women lawyers who are All Blacks        paper if for no other reason than to fill the   times the copying and storage costs (see
because the NZ Rugby Union are yet to         pages of your august journal.                   above).
drag themselves, mauling and rucking into        I don’t want to seem curmudgeonly but
the 21st Century and ‘allow’ women to be      what exactly does the Property Law Section
full All Blacks too – with all the status,    do about the pragmatic aspects of convey-
opportunity and yes the tidy pile of money    ancing which is, after all, about property
that finds its way into the bank accounts     law. It is appreciated that the section does
of male professional rugby players.           excellent service on the esoteric aspects of
   It’s pointless running endless articles    the genre but the day-to-day grassroots
on unconscious bias when the editorial        lawyers seem not to be so well served.
decisions which led to the All Black story       Can this section answer the following?
demonstrate the bias is alive and well - in
the newsroom at LawTalk.                      Driver licence ID
   Josie McNaught                             Have representations been made to the
   Wellington                                 government (or whosoever authorises
                                              driver’s licences – AA?) to revert to having
LawTalk Managing Editor                       the expiry date of the licence on the front
Geoff Adlam replies:                          of the licence document?
Ms McNaught’s points are accepted. I’ll          We are asked to police ID for LINZ
point to myself as the author of the lawyer   dealings. An acceptable, but not always
All Blacks story. My worry about missing      reliable, ID purports to be a photographic
someone out (which was realised) was          ID issued by the government. This is gener-
equally matched by a feeling of unease        ally accepted to be (only) a driver’s licence
over the fact that half of New Zealand’s      or passport. It used to be that a one-page
lawyers were ineligible and concern at        photocopy of a driver’s licence was ade-
how this could be received. The possibility   quate as it showed the licence currency. For
of bias did come to mind. However, the        some unknown, and an illogical, reason the

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        LETTERS TO THE EDITOR

Liaison with the Bankers Association            how many acres of storage they own              e-dealing consultant on current practice
What liaison does the Section have with         in order to maintain their file copies of       matters and legislative change.
the Bankers Association? I have two issues      paper documents. I suspect none. They              The Section has regular relationship
with the cost banking practices impose on       are content to waste our paper, time and        meetings with all manner of stakehold-
practices apropos conveyancing.                 cause undue expense just to have the paper      ers that impact on property lawyers.
  The first is an observation and a request.    copy go to the tip. This is a monumental        That includes a number of government
Would it be possible for the Section to         waste of paper, cost and time. The section      departments such as LINZ, IRD, MBIE,
advocate to the banks that they give an         could perhaps advocate with the Bankers         MOJ, etc. We also meet with senior bank-
indication/estimation of the amount they        Association a standardised process to           ing representatives from major banks to
expect to be paid in consideration of the       enable the efficient conduct of what is after   discuss current practitioner concerns. That
discharge of mortgage at the time the           all a commercial business for both parties.     relationship is such that some banks are
mortgage discharge is requested?                                                                now prepared to engage with the Section
  Reason. Colleagues have been sur-             Why does the ANZ Bank                           as a ‘sounding board’ for changes to their
prised at the last minute when settling a       not trust lawyers?                              procedures and documentation.
transaction to find the amount required         They require a certified copy of an A & I          Members of the Section are often asked
by the bank is substantially more than          form plus a copy of the title and VID prior     to advise of issues or concerns they may
indicated by the client who did not know        to the drawdown of funds indicating that        have with specific aspects such as bank
that all advances, including personal loans,    they not do not trust us to do our job. Every   instructions. The Section then engages
overdrafts, credit cards etc, would need to     other bank appears to trust the profession.     with the bank to discuss concerns and
be repaid if the security was discharged.         Result. Ask the ANZ to cease this make-       look for mutually beneficial solutions. It
This has also happened where a separate         work, time-wasting and cost-incurring           is also relevant to point out that all of the
mortgage over a different property is also      process.                                        members of the Executive committee are
“called up” on a sale.                            That is it, for now.                          involved on a daily basis with property files
  Result: if an indication was made early         I look forward to a response from the         and also have a vested interest in ensuring
any problems could be sorted out and            Section, hopefully with proposals as to         the greatest efficiency possible.
negotiated other than on settlement date.       how it is intended that these problems             It is important to note that while the
                                                be resolved by:                                 Section welcomes constructive suggestions
The law firm as a printing company              • Having the expiry date returned to the        for improvements that can be made in
Banks are crowing about growing and               front of the licence,                         property law practice, it is not a ‘lobby
advertising their indecent profits. This is     • Simplifying the tax form,                     group’ and must maintain a politically
not surprising seeing conveyancers are          • Bankers Association recommending an           neutral stance. Its statutory function is
now their printing companies. It is not           indication of debt, electronic signature      to provide services and facilities such as
uncommon to be required to print 100              processes and the ANZ trusting the            seminars, education, training and other
pages of bank “stuff ” to satisfy the bank        conveyancers.                                 materials, in order to represent its mem-
requirements for security and disclosure.         Grant Aislabie                                bers and serve their interests (ss 66 and
The bank is happy to electronically provide       Auckland                                      68 LCA). As noted above, the Section does
instructions to practitioners but provides                                                      make contact with its various stakehold-
no means, or authority, for the documents       Duncan Terris, Chair                            ers when appropriate, to try to achieve
to be signed in an electronic form. Yes,        of the Property Law                             solutions.
there will be a valid (in their minds) reason   Section, responds:                                 The reality is that virtually all of Mr
why they don’t – but we put a man on the        The Property Law Section thanks Mr              Aislabie’s points have in fact been histor-
moon (I think!) So somehow it should be         Aislabie for his letter and takes the oppor-    ically addressed by the Section and some
able to be done.                                tunity to clarify the role and the Section      are ongoing. Some key ones are addressed
   Result: Signed scanned copies of bank        and address some of the issues raised.          as follows:
documents are happily received by most            By way of background, the Section has
banks leaving the paper copies on our           more than 1,400 members and provides            Drivers licences as ID
files to be destroyed. Some banks require       regular practical and current information       for LINZ dealings
belts and braces. Not only do they require      to its members via e-bulletins and The          There was extensive analysis of how to mit-
a scanned copy they also require the orig-      Property Lawyer magazine publication.           igate incidence of fraud with the abolition
inal “blue ink” copy. When this bank was        That magazine has regular columns from          of duplicate paper titles almost 15 years ago
questioned why they could not answer            the Registrar-General of Land and NZLS          in 2002. NZLS was involved extensively

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