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Lufax Holding Ltd NYSE:LU
FQ4 2020 Earnings Call Transcripts
Wednesday, February 03, 2021 2:00 AM GMT
Call Participants
EXECUTIVES

Guangheng Ji
Chairman of the Board & Chairman of
Executive Committee

Gregory Dean Gibb
Co-CEO & Director

Yong Suk Cho
Co-CEO & Director

James Xigui Zheng
Chief Financial Officer

David Choy
Controller and Chief Financial Officer
of Puhui

Chen Yu
Head of Board Office and Capital
Markets

ANALYSTS

Haiwen Cheng
Goldman Sachs Group, Inc.,
Research Division

Hans Fan
CLSA Limited, Research Division

Meizhi Yan
UBS Investment Bank, Research
Division

Thomas Chong
Jefferies LLC, Research Division

Wai Yan Wong
HSBC, Research Division

Yi Wu
BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division
Presentation
Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Lufax Holding Ltd Fourth Quarter's 2020 Earnings
Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this event is being recorded.

Now I'd like to hand the conference over to your speaker host today, Mr. Yu Chen, the company's Head of Board Office
and Capital Markets. Please go ahead, sir.

Chen Yu
Head of Board Office and Capital Markets

Thank you, operator. Hello, everyone, and welcome to our Fourth Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. Our fourth
quarter 2020 financial and operating results were released by our newswire services earlier today and are currently
available online.

Today, you will hear from our Chairman, Mr. Ji Guangheng, who will start the call with updates on recent changes to
corporate governance structure as well as regulatory development; our co-CEO, Mr. Greg Gibb, will then provide a
review of our business in the quarter and future strategies. Afterwards, our CFO, Mr. James Zheng, will offer a closer
look into our financials before we open up the call for questions. In addition, Mr. Y.S. Cho, our co-CEO; and Mr. David
Choy, CFO of our retail credit facilitation business, will also be available during the question-and-answer session.

Before we continue, I would like to refer you to our safe harbor statements in our earnings press release, which also
applies to this call, as we will be making forward-looking statements. Please also note that we will discuss non-IFRS
measures today, which are more thoroughly explained and reconciled to the most comparable measures reported under
the international financial reporting standards in our earnings release and filings with the SEC.

With that, I'm now pleased to turn over the call to Mr. Ji Guangheng of Lufax.

Guangheng Ji
Chairman of the Board & Chairman of Executive Committee

感谢各位参加陆金所控股第四季度业绩发布会。在正式发布公司业绩之前,我想先总体上与大家报告三个方面的事项:
1、上市后公司治理情况的调整;2、近期监管动向与理解;3、未来监管趋势的预判与举措。

[translation] Hello, and thank you everyone for joining our fourth quarter 2020 earnings call. Before discussing our
quarterly results, I would like to provide updates on 3 different aspects of our business: first, changes to our corporate
governance structure since becoming a U.S.-listed company; second, our interpretation of the recent regulatory
developments; and third, our view of future regulatory trends as well as the steps we are taking to stay in front of these
changes.

一、快速反应美股上市规则,重组董事会及委员会人员结构
在公司治理方面,李仁杰董事长由于年龄原因,向董事会提出了退休申请。为严格遵照美股上市公司规则,公司于 1 月
29 日召开董事会,审议通过了董事会及委员会人员重组的议案,接受了李仁杰董事的退休申请及其余 4 名股东董事、1 名
独立董事的辞任,新增汤云为、李祥林两位学者为独立董事以及李锐一位股东代表董事。作为前联席董事长及陆控执行委
员会主席,我将继续担任董事长。重组后的董事会成员共计 9 人,其中执行董事 3 人,股东董事 1 人,独立董事 5 人,符
合纽交所上市公司董事会独立董事人数过半的要求,同时审计委员会、提名及薪酬委员会全部由独立董事组成。作为美股
上市公司,新一届董事会将持续致力于提升公司治理,完善对小股东保护,高效合理的战略决策。

[translation] Starting with corporate governance. Mr. Renjie Li, Chairman of the Board, has submitted his retirement
application as he reaches the golden age of 65. In strict adherence to U.S. listing regulations, our Board held a meeting
on January 29 and approved Chairman Li's retirement, along with the resignations of 4 other shareholder directors and 1
independent director. As previous co-Chairman of the Board, I will now assume the role of Chairman of the Board in
addition to my role as Chairman of Lufax’s Executive Committee. We have also appointed Mr. Yunwei Tang and Mr.
David Xianglin Li as our independent directors and Mr. Rui Li as our shareholder director. Following these changes, our
Board now consists of 9 directors, among whom 3 are executive directors, 5 are independent directors and 1 is a
shareholder director. Additionally, our Nomination and Remuneration Committee as well as our Audit Committee now
solely consist of independent directors. Such changes have brought us into full compliance with the NYSE listing
requirements for a majority independent Board and for both of the aforementioned committees to solely consist of
independent directors. As representatives of a U.S.-listed company, our new Board of Directors will remain dedicated to
improving the Company's corporate governance, protecting minority shareholders' interests and establishing prudent
corporate strategies in an efficient manner.

同时,董事会也审议通过了陆控联席 CEO 的管理架构,由赵容奭和计葵生出任陆控联席 CEO,分别分管陆控零售信贷和
财富管理业务,新的管理架构更有利于两大业务板块的联动与资源整合

[translation] In addition, after careful reviews and thorough discussions, our Board of Directors has decided to adopt a
co-CEO executive structure. As a result, Mr. Yong Suk Cho and Mr. Gregory Dean Gibb will serve as the Company's co-
CEOs going forward, with Mr. Cho in charge of our retail credit facilitation business and Mr. Gibb in charge of our wealth
management business. We strongly believe that this new management structure is in the best interest of all
stakeholders, enabling us to cultivate more synergies across business segments and better integrate our overall
business resources.

另外,除了负责零售信贷业务以外,YS 也会协助我分管财务,企划和资金。Greg,除了负责财富管理业务以外,也会协
助我分管科技,IR。

[translation] In addition, Y.S. -- in addition to his role as running the retail credit facilitation business, he will also assist
me in managing the finance, planning and treasury functions of the company. And in addition to running the wealth
management business, Greg will also assist me in managing the technology and IR functions of the company.

二、监管态势进一步趋严,长期利好头部企业
2020 年金融科技行监管持续趋严,尤其在 20 年末及今年年初,监管机构相继发布了《互联网小贷管理办法征求意见
稿》,《平台经济反垄断指南》,《商业银行理财子公司理财产品销售管理暂行办法(征求意见稿)》、《关于规范商业
银行通过互联网开展个人存款业务的通知》等各项新规,监管方向聚焦于审慎创新、反垄断、消费者保护、金融稳定和金
融安全。在行业面临强监管的态势下,公司总体的思路是拥抱监管、积极沟通、良性互动,我认为,更严格更规范的监管
要求,对像陆控等头部金融科技企业是短期承压,长期利好。其在公司具体业务上体现为:

[translation] Now, turning to regulatory developments. Fintech industry regulations continued to tighten in China
throughout 2020. At the end of 2020 and beginning of 2021, for example, regulators introduced a series of new
regulations, including the Interim Measures for the Administration of Online Microfinance Business, the Antitrust
Guidelines for the Platform Economy Industry, the Interim Measures for the Administration of Sales of Wealth
Management Products from Wealth Management Subsidiaries of Commercial Banks, and the Notice on Regulating
Commercial Banks to Conduct Personal Deposit Business Through the Internet. At a fundamental level, these
regulations represent the government's desire to promote prudent innovation, prohibit monopolistic practices, protect
consumer interests and maintain financial stability and security. Facing increasingly stringent regulatory oversight, we
have adopted an overarching strategy of embracing regulatory changes, engaging in proactive dialogs with the
regulators and forging collaborative and productive relationships with local authorities. While we do recognize that
stricter and more standardized regulatory requirements may result in some short-term pressure on the Company, we
also believe that such changes should foster more long-term benefits for fintech market leaders, such as Lufax. Now,
allow me to elaborate on how these policies have impacted our own businesses.

1、在零售信贷业务方面,理解监管内涵,沟通业务价值。我们了解到目前监管的基调是,一方面不希望借款成本太高,
另一方面不鼓励年轻人透支消费。就借款成本,根据最高法最新的司法解释,4 倍 LPR 利率上限不适用于金融机构及地方
金融组织。我们已经于 2020 年 9 月将所有新增贷款的综合借款成本降低到 24%以下,符合目前的司法解释及监管要求。
有别于其他互联网平台的消费借贷业务,陆金所的信贷业务主要服务于小微企业主,主要用途也是日常经营领域,从而支
持国家实体经济发展,符合政策导向。在这方面,目前虽然面临严监管的压力,但我们也在积极、持续地与监管沟通,希
望他们更加理解我们业务的意义和价值。

[translation] First, for our retail credit facilitation business, we seek to thoroughly understand the spirit of regulations and
proactively communicate the value of our services to the regulatory authorities. Our understanding is that current
policies intend to prevent excessive consumer borrowing costs and over expansion of consumption and credit limits by
younger consumers.
In respect to lending costs, the latest legal explanation from the Supreme People's Court of China stipulates that the 4x
LPR interest rate cap is neither applicable to the lending businesses of financial institutions nor local financial
organizations. Since September 2020, we have restricted our all-in lending costs for facilitating all new loans to no more
than 24%, which is in line with the latest requirements.

What is noteworthy is that our loan facilitation services differ from other Internet consumer lending services in borrowers'
use of loan proceeds. We primarily serve micro and small business owners and meet their operating needs. In doing so,
we help the physical economy to grow and prosper, which is in full alignment with policy directions. Although we face
temporary pressure from the uniform enforcement of regulations across the board, we are engaging in active and
persistent dialogues with the regulatory authorities so that our business' mission and societal values are fully understood
and appreciated.

2、在财富管理方面,下架存款引流,专注财富管理与科技赋能。1 月 15 日,央行与银保监会正式下发了《规范商业银行
通过互联网开展个人存款业务的通知》,在此之前我们已经下架了互联网存款产品。由于互联网存款占总收入比重小,预
测对我们的业绩影响有限、可控。业务增量方面,平台将持续加强标准化产品、结构化产品,通过极致的销售匹配、用户
体验支撑业务增长。同时继续加强对中小银行的全面科技赋能。

[translation] Secondly, for our wealth management business, we have stopped facilitating online deposits and shifted our
focus to wealth management and technology empowerment. In fact, before the PBOC and CBIRC jointly issued the
Notice on Regulating Commercial Banks to Conduct Personal Deposit Business through the Internet on January 15,
2021, we had already ceased offering online deposit products. Since these products only represent a small proportion of
our total income, we expect that the financial impact of these adjustments on our business will be both limited and
manageable. Looking ahead, we will continue to promote standardized products and structured products on our
platform, propelling the growth of our business through superior product recommendations and user experiences. We
will also continue to work towards empowering small- and medium-sized commercial banks through advanced
technologies.
陆金所作为在美国上市的企业,将严格遵守中美两国的法律监管,积极响应监管要求,致力于使我们的业务更合规、更透
明,我相信凭借我们独有的 Hub-Spoke 模式,能够在严格分业监管下实现可持续增长。这次针对金融科技公司的强监管
可能对一批中小平台冲击更大,但是陆金所作为行业内的头部企业之一,我们的技术能力、管理能力、定价能力、抗风险
能力更强,长期来看对我们是有利的。

[translation] As a U.S.-listed company, Lufax will remain in compliance with the regulatory rules of both China and the
United States. Moreover, to improve the compliance and transparency of our business operations, we'll also remain
vigilant of relevant regulatory developments. We believe that our unique hub-and-spoke model will enable us to enjoy
sustainable growth even under strict regulatory oversight. Although the increased scrutiny towards fintech companies
may severely affect small- and medium-sized platforms, we believe that stricter regulations will be more advantageous
to Lufax in the long-term. As an industry leader, Lufax possesses advanced technology capabilities, sophisticated
management know-how, strong pricing power and versatile risk mitigation expertise, all of which should enable us to
thrive in any environment.

三、积极响应政策,前瞻布局市场
最后,我想分享下对未来监管政策的展望。如三季度业绩报告会中指出,对于零售信贷业务,我们预测新的监管方向将会
在:1、利率上限;2、额外资本金需求;3、捆绑销售;4、展业地域范围;5、资金方自建风控体系;6、 贷款用途;7、
消费者保护 这七个方面。针对上述七个方面,公司已经在积极准备,除降低成本的措施外,截止 2020 年 12 月末公司已
按计划提升整体风险承担比率至 6.3%,并计划 2021 年中期将所有新增风险承担比率上调至 20%。根据我们的测算,我
们的净资产足以覆盖未来潜在的资本金需求。在展业地域范围方面,近年来我们已在全国各主要城市设立分公司,全国展
业没有障碍。在资金合作方面,我们将积极与资金方合作,配合资金方进行风险合规建设。在消费者保护方面,公司已对
APP 及产品流程进行了更新,给借款人更多的增信方选择,加强消费者保护,对消费者投诉进行及时妥当的处理。

[translation] Finally, I would like to share our views on the future development of regulatory policies. As mentioned on
our previous quarterly earnings call, we expect that regulations for retail credit facilitation will focus on 7 different areas,
including: interest rate cap; capital requirements; bundled sales; geographic coverage restrictions; funding institution risk
management; use of proceeds verification; and consumer protection.
We are actively preparing our businesses to maintain compliance in those 7 aforementioned areas. In addition to
lowering our lending costs, we have also increased our overall risk-taking rate to 6.3% as of December 31, 2020. By
mid-2021, we intend to have increased our overall risk-taking rate to 20% for all new loans facilitated. Based on our
analysis and forecasts, we will have sufficient net assets to cover our potential capital needs going forward. In regards to
geographic coverage restrictions, in recent years, we have established branch offices in key cities across the country to
ensure that our nationwide operations remain smooth and compliant. Furthermore, on the consumer protection front, we
have upgraded our apps and processes, implementing more timely response protocols for customer complaints and
providing our borrowers with more credit enhancement choices to better protect their interest.

综上所述,我们认为公司已经在应对未来监管不确定性方面做了充足的准备,并且时刻保持与监管的沟通,我们有信心在
合法合规的前提下完成业务的平稳转型,通过精细化的管理、科技能力优化成本,同时匹配定价与风险策略,我们有信心
确保利润稳健增长。

[translation] In conclusion, we believe that we are well prepared to navigate through the regulatory uncertainties, as we
engage in active communications with the regulatory authorities. We are confident that we will complete our business
transition smoothly while maintaining regulatory compliance. With our refined operational processes, technology-
enabled cost optimization, and risk-matching pricing mechanism, we should be able to sustain our healthy and profitable
growth for the long run.

接下来,我请 Greg 具体报告一下公司的业务情况。
[translation] I will now give the floor to Greg, who will share our business updates for the quarter.

Gregory Dean Gibb
Co-CEO & Director

Thank you Chairman Ji. Before I begin, please note that all numbers are in RMB terms and all comparisons are on a
year-over-year basis, unless otherwise stated.

In the face of regulatory uncertainties and overwhelming market noise, we upheld our commitment towards driving high
quality and profitable business growth. As such, we exceeded our previous guidance, delivering solid financial and
operating results in the fourth quarter of 2020. As of December 31, 2020, our balance of loans facilitated had grown
17.9% to CNY 545 billion, while our client assets in wealth management had also grown by 23% to CNY 426 billion.
Moreover, for the full year of 2020, our total income grew by 8.8% to CNY 52 billion, while our non-IFRS adjusted net
profit grew by 2.1% to CNY 13.6 billion.

Underpinning these positive outcomes were several driving factors.

First, we continued to observe improvement in our credit quality. The C-M3 flow rate, the leading indicator of risk
performance on our lending platform, continued to stabilize around its pre-COVID-19 levels. In Q4 2020, our flow rate
was 0.4% as compared to 0.4% in Q4 2019. Additionally, our 30 days past due plus further improved to 2% in the fourth
quarter from 2.2% in the third quarter of 2020, while our 90 days past due decreased to 1.2% in the fourth quarter from
1.3% in the third quarter.

Second, we received more clarity surrounding the interpretation and application of interest rate cap.
We were pleased to see, as Chairman Ji just mentioned, the recent Supreme Court guidelines and local court cases
providing additional clarity on the interest rate cap. These developments were largely in line with our expectations, and
all of our loans from September 4 last year have been below 24%. We do not expect any further adjustments to our
lending rates in the short term.

Third, in line with our plans, we continued to make good progress in establishing a more sustainable risk-sharing
business model. It's encouraging to see that our funding and insurance partners have remained supportive and
embraced this new model. As of December 31, 2020, our outstanding balance of loans facilitated with guarantees from
third-party insurance partners decreased to 88.8% from 95.6% a year ago. Moreover, Ping An P&C accounted for 77.7%
of new loans sold in the quarter, down from 93.2% a year ago, while our funding partners bore the risk for 6.7% of new
loans in the fourth quarter.

Fourth, we further penetrated into our core and target customer segments.
During the fourth quarter, 72.7% of new loans facilitated were disbursed to our core segment of small business owners,
up from 63.1% in the same period of 2019. In the wealth management business, the contribution from customers with
investments of more than RMB 300,000 as a percentage of our total platform client assets increased to 75.5% as of the
fourth quarter versus 73.1% a year ago. Moreover, our 12-month investor retention rate remained high at 96.8% as
compared with 93.3% in the same period of 2019.

Lastly, we observed strong growth in our current product client assets in the wealth management business. Current
product client assets grew by 67.2% year-over-year, and thus, accounted for 95.5% of our total client assets as of the
quarter end. The remaining legacy client assets decreased to 19.4 billion or 4.5% of total client assets as of the quarter
end.

Next, let me provide some more context regarding new loan sales, take rate and pretax margin in the fourth quarter.

In retail credit facilitation, our new loan sales for the quarter were 132.7 billion, slightly ahead of our prior guidance and
representing a 3.2% year-on-year increase. We also observed stable credit demand from our small business owners in
Q4 as well as a very strong start in the New Year. In fact, for January 2021, we just recorded our highest-ever single
month new loan sales, representing a year-on-year double-digit increase.

As a result of our adjustments to borrowing costs back in September 4th last year, our revenue take rate did experience
temporary pressure in the fourth quarter, declining to 9.1% in Q4 from 10.3% a year ago. As the price adjustments at the
time occurred overnight, we believe that this decline is temporary in nature. And nevertheless, we are now renegotiating
with our partners to reduce our funding and credit costs as we continue to adjust our cost structure that will take some
time. We believe our revenue take rate and net margin will improve in the future throughout the course of this year. I'm
going to circle back on this in just a moment to explain to everyone how we're going to get there in 2021.

For now, despite the regulatory uncertainty, we expect double-digit top line and bottom line growth going forward
through this year.

As I mentioned, we've already had a very strong start for the year, recording the highest-ever single month new loan
sales while maintaining the full and steady backing of our insurance and funding partners. We also decreased our sales
commission rates starting this January, and we've continued to optimize our funding cost, and we started to enjoy lower
CGI costs as insurance partners adjusted their pricing on the back of better credit and customer quality. All of these
factors are leading to a recovery in pretax net margin as compared to Q4 2020, and we expect this trend to continue
throughout the remainder of 2021. Due to the complex accounting treatment of revenue recognition for loans that we
facilitate versus trust-funded loans and the initial recognition of credit costs for our risk-bearing loans, there will likely be
some quarterly volatility in our net margin, which James will elaborate more on next. But in spite of this, our strong
performance in January has given us confidence in the healthy momentum of new loan sales as well as our underlying
unit economics. In fact, after overlooking the accounting treatment complexities, we believe that both, and here we're
talking about take rate and unit economics, have already bottomed out and will continue to improve throughout 2021.

For our 2021 business priorities, we'll continue to monitor the new regulatory requirements and be prepared to adjust
quickly when required, similar to how we have operated in the past. Now as we look ahead in retail credit facilitation, the
stabilization of borrower rates and continued optimization of external and internal costs are expected to improve our
underlying unit economics. We will also continue to execute our plans for the new risk-sharing model, diversify our
funding channels, secure more funding partner support and enhance our deployment of technology.

In wealth management, we will prioritize revenue optimization and product mix over client asset growth. The reason we
had made this decision is, in reflection of the tightening regulations in some areas that we've seen, such as the bank
deposit distribution. But we expect revenue growth to be in line with our own expectations as we explore more qualified
investor products and increase our focus on those insurance and equity-related products capable of generating better
returns for our business.

Our 2 businesses will also be working together to expand our technology-enabled services in lending and wealth
management to small bank partners. We expect this strategy to deepen our ties with the partner banks and to generate
additional revenue opportunities.
I will now turn the call over to James Zheng, our CFO, to go through the financial details.

James Xigui Zheng
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Greg. I will now provide a closer look into our fourth quarter financial results. Please note that all numbers
are in RMB terms and all comparisons are on a year-over-year basis, unless otherwise stated.

We continued to deliver solid financial results in the fourth quarter of 2020. Our total income was 13.3 billion, up 5.9%
year over year. More importantly, our net profit increased by 17.4% to 2.8 billion in the fourth quarter, while our net profit
margin further expanded to 21.4% from 19.3% in the same period of 2019.

Before diving deeper into our Q4 numbers, I want to highlight 2 factors that create a mismatch between our revenue and
earnings growth and the actual business growth. These factors have impacted our 2020 Q4 results and will continue to
impact our 2021 results.

First, our increase in on-balance sheet loans slows the pacing of revenue recognition in comparison to that of off-
balance sheet loans.

Revenue and expenses are recognized over the life of a loan. For loans that we facilitate, retail credit facilitation service
fees are recognized under IFRS 15, and a greater portion of revenue is thus recognized in month one, reflecting a larger
portion of the service is provided to the borrowers in month one.

We utilize trusts as a funding channel. Certain trust-funded loans for which we meet accounting consolidation
requirements are recognized as on-balance sheet lending, and revenue for these types of loans is recognized as net
interest income under IFRS 9. Recognition of monthly revenue under IFRS 9 is more evenly spread-out across the life
cycle of a loan. Furthermore, under IFRS 9, all revenue associated with these loans, whether facilitation, interest, or
guarantee in nature, is recorded as net interest income. Whether a loan is funded by a bank, and therefore recognized
under IFRS 15, or funded by a consolidated trust, and therefore recognized under IFRS 9, makes little business
difference as the overwhelming majority of loans are funded by third parties in any case. However, the accounting
treatment differs greatly as on-balance sheet revenue is recognized at a slower pace than off-balance sheet revenue in
month one, therefore creating a temporary deviation between accounting results and business performance.

Second, self-risk bearing loans front load loan credit costs.

As we start to bear more risk, we expect to earn more margin over the life of a loan, as the margin previously earned by
our insurance partners will now come to us. However, accounting standards require us to record a provision determined
by IFRS 9 for the month in which we take on a new loan, while the revenue associated with bearing that risk is
recognized over the loan’s entire life. This timing mismatch means that our net margin will also be under pressure during
those periods in which we increase our own risk bearing balance. Nevertheless, once this stabilizes, we expect our net
margin to return to its previous levels.

These factors affect the pace of our recognition for revenue and expenses, creating a timing mismatch between our
financial and business results, and will likely result in more quarterly movement and volatility. With that, now let's take a
closer look into our Q4 numbers.
During the fourth quarter, our total income increased by 5.9%, while our revenue mix continued to change as a result of
our business model's ongoing evolution. As discussed earlier, such revenue mix change has slowed the pace of
revenue recognition, following our decision to increase funding from those consolidated trust plans that offered lower
funding costs and continued to increase the volume of loans for which we bear credit risks, our net interest income and
guarantee income grew significantly to 2.6 billion, or 19.5% of our total income, in the fourth quarter, from 1 billion or
8.2% of our total income, in the same period of 2019. As a result, our retail credit facilitation service fees decreased by
9.9% to 9.3 billion, or 69.9% of our total income, from 10.3 billion, or 82.1% of our total income, in the same period of
2019.

The annualized take rate for current products and services on our wealth management platform was 31.4 bps in Q4 as
compared to 21.5 bps a year ago. We calculate the take rate by dividing total wealth management transaction and
service fees for current products by our average current product client assets.
 As we upgrade our business from product distribution to focus more on providing our partners with comprehensive
technology enablement offerings, we are generating a greater portion of revenue from those service fees that are not
directly linked to products. In light of this ongoing transition, we believe this take rate measurement better reflects our
business and thus plan to continue using it going forward.

Now moving on to our expenses. In the fourth quarter of 2020, our total expenses increased by 11.7% to 9.1 billion
driven by accounting factors related to early customer repayments and credit costs from self-risk bearing loans, as I
mentioned previously.

Our sales and marketing expenses increased by 20.5% to 4.9 billion during the fourth quarter from 4.1 billion a year ago.
Our borrower acquisition expenses, which are a major component of our sales and marketing expenses, increased by
22.3% to 2.8 billion from 2.3 billion a year ago, mainly due to the accelerated recognition of selling expenses that we
recorded in the quarter as a result of customers' early repayments.

Since we started to change how we charge monthly fees in September 2020, the negative impact of early customer
repayments on revenue has largely been minimized. However, early customer repayments also impact our sales and
marketing expenses. When a loan is repaid early, we are required to recognize all of the remaining sales and marketing
costs that have not yet been amortized in the same month. Therefore, in the period of high early repayment, sales and
marketing costs are likely to be inflated when compared to actual activity in the period.

Meanwhile, our investor acquisition and retention expenses decreased by 17.5% to 227 million in the fourth quarter from
275 million a year ago, mostly due to our improved investor acquisition efficiency as we leveraged technology to achieve
greater precision in investor profiling and targeting.

At the same time, our general sales and marketing expenses, which are mainly comprised of payroll and related
expenses for marketing personnel, brand promotion costs, consulting service fees, business development costs, as well
as other marketing and advertising costs, increased by 24.9% to 1.8 billion in the fourth quarter from 1.5 billion a year
ago. This increase was mainly due to our previous postponement of marketing campaigns and subsequent resumption
in the quarter as businesses across the country restarted their operations in the post-pandemic period.

Our general and administrative expenses increased by 47.8% to 986 million during the fourth quarter from 667 million a
year ago. The increase included employee social security payments for the first 3 quarters of 2020, which were
previously delayed following the release of government policies made in response to the outbreak of COVID'19. In
addition, we also recorded higher share-based compensation expenses for the fourth quarter.
Consistent with the growth of our outstanding balance of loans facilitated, our operation and servicing expenses
increased by 10.6% to 1.7 billion during the fourth quarter from 1.5 billion a year ago, while our outstanding balance of
loans facilitated grew by 17.9% to 545.1 billion as of December 31, 2020, from 462.2 billion as of December 31, 2019.
Meanwhile, an increase in our loan repayment volume led to an increase in our payment processing expenses and
consolidated trust plan fees to trustees during the fourth quarter. This increase was partially offset by our use of AI to
improve the efficiency of our loan approval and collection process, helping to reduce the related costs.

Our technology and analytics expenses decreased by 17.4% to 461 million during the fourth quarter from 558 million a
year ago as we continued to improve our efficiency.

Our credit impairment losses increased by 1.4% to 985 million during the fourth quarter from 971 million during the same
period of last year. This increase was primarily due to our higher loan-related risk exposure as our business model
continued to evolve, causing us to start to bear more risk and record credit impairment losses upfront. The increase was
also due to an increase in our loan-related receivables, which was mostly due to the residual effects of COVID-19.
Conversely, the increase in credit impairment losses was partially offset by the year-over-year decrease in our asset
management impairment losses during the fourth quarter.

Our finance costs decreased by 17% to 326 million in the fourth quarter from 393 million a year ago, mainly due to the
decrease in borrowing costs during the period.

Consequently, our net profit increased by 17.4% to 2.8 billion during the fourth quarter from 2.4 billion in the same period
of 2019. Our basic and diluted earnings per ADS were both 1.25 as compared to 1.12 in the same period of 2019.

As of December 31, 2020, we had 24.2 billion in cash at bank, compared to 7.4 billion as of December 31, 2019.

Looking into 2021, because of the previously discussed accounting and temporary business factors, we expect our
margin in Q1 to be somewhat impacted, but profit growth to resume starting from Q2 and beyond.

For Q1 2021, we expect new loan sales to be in the range of 175 billion to 180 billion; client assets to be in the range of
385 billion to 395 billion; total income to be in the range of 14.3 billion to 14.6 billion; and net profit to be in the range of
4.0 billion to 4.2 billion.

For the first half of 2021, we expect new loan sales to be in the range of 340 billion to 350 billion, client assets to be in
the range of 375 billion to 385 billion due to the stoppage of online bank deposits, total income to be in the range of 28.5
billion to 29.3 billion, and net profit to be in the range of 7.8 billion to 8.0 billion. This forecast reflects the Company's
current and preliminary views on the market and operational conditions, which are subject to change.

This concludes our prepared remarks for today. Operator, we're now ready to take questions.
Question and Answer
Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Elsie Cheng from Goldman Sachs.

Haiwen Cheng
Goldman Sachs Group, Inc., Research Division

Congratulations on the solid quarter again. I have 2 questions here. First is on the RCF take rate. Understand that we're
targeting different higher quality client cohort with lower interest rates amid this environment. However, given the recent
clarification on applicability of 4x LPR restriction, just wondering, can we expect some upside in RCF take rate for us
now that we probably have more flexibility in interest rates as well as targeted client cohort?

And my second question is really on the guidance. If my calculations are correct, our new loan sales in first half 2021 is
guided to grow at a very solid pace of 21% year-on-year at the midpoint. So can management share a little bit more
color on the major drivers of the growth? And can we actually extrapolate this growth momentum into second half as
well?

Yong Suk Cho
Co-CEO & Director

Yes. So let me first explain the first question. So a few of our unit economics. Our fourth quarter last year, our new
loans, it came with lower take rate and the margin because we reduced borrowing costs. But funding cost, CGI premium
and our borrower sourcing cost, they didn't drop at the same pace immediately. And fourth quarter new loans, it was
about 25% of 2020 year-end loan balance. So that's why we had lower take rates in fourth quarter last year. And also
versus 2019, we had more trust fund and self-guarantee portion. Those are other reasons.

But if you look at January 2021 or last month's number, as Greg said, in January this year, we delivered record-high new
loan sales, almost close to 100 billion new loan sales in one month. And then we are able to see that the funding cost,
CGI premium and borrower sourcing costs obviously drops. And take rate as a result, take rate and margin, very much
in line with our previous expectations. So in overall, it's back to 2020 overall take rate and net margin level, and we
believe this will continue.

And we are very confident for full year 2021, our take rate and net margin for our RCF new business will be without
much change. And in terms of APR, the Supreme Court had clarified 4x LRP does not apply. It does not apply to
financial lending institutions, including lending companies and customer finance and small companies. However, we
believe the general guidance from CBIRC remain unchanged at 24%. So we don't have any plans to adjust our price.
And then depending on the product of funding cost, credit cost reduction and the operating cost optimization, we follow
on to reduce our borrowing costs gradually, slowly, to be more price affordable and competitive in this weaker trading
market, while we can maintain current take rate and net margin level.

So we don't have any immediate plan to decrease price at this moment. But going forward, in the long term, we still plan
to greatly decrease our borrowing costs. So that's the answer for the first question.

And second question is, yes, our sales volume growth, as I just mentioned, just made record in January this year, we
delivered almost close to 100 billion in sales, which is very strong sales momentum. And going forward, we believe that
sales growth, the market demand is plenty. And then our sales growth will probably increase -- it's very obvious
compared to last year. Without any increase of sales force headcount, we delivered 14.4% annual sales volume growth.
So we'll focus on more and more profit improvement, at the same time, with AI application, such as AI Video that we try
to obtain and develop new inbound channels going forward.

But in the meantime, because in this China take rate market, our experiences, for now, we do not see any other online
channels which can give us as good-quality borrowers as offline channels such as our direct sales or life insurance
agents with high TSI and then with borrower acquisition cost less than 3%.

So in the meantime, our offline-driven sales, this will continue with about 85% contribution ratio. But going forward, we
are planning to develop further self-acquisition channels.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of May Yan from UBS.

Meizhi Yan
UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Congratulations on a very steady quarter again. Okay. My question, the first one is related to regulation, if I can ask Ji.
I'll ask this in Chinese. [Foreign Language]

This question is related to PBOC's earlier dropped consultation paper credit rating business. And some people interpret
this may apply to loan facilitation business and loan facilitation companies will it be required to have a credit rating
license? Is this something relevant to Lufax? Okay.

And then second question, still on the take rate. As I understand that the take rate may be temporarily down. In the
fourth quarter, net take rate -- net pretax profit take rate 3.1% of revenue take rate, 9.1%, but below sort of previous
expectation. And so this year, you said it's going to be -- gradually recover to the range of 3.4% to -- 3.5% to 4% of the
net take rate. What would be the path for that? And what is the recent CGI cost that you mentioned will be 6.7% in the
fourth quarter and also the -- on the funding partners cost? And our loan size, the new loans are all below 24% interest
rate. Are the size much larger than before? I remember, in the third quarter, you mentioned about CNY 200,000 per
loan? Is it even higher than that as of now? And any guidance from the CBIRC to increase the 20% credit risk exposure
to be higher, maybe to 30% or so?

Guangheng Ji
Chairman of the Board & Chairman of Executive Committee

[Foreign Language]

[translation] So in terms of the credit scoring business, we think the guidelines at the moment are reasonably early and
preliminary. Business requirements and the shareholder requirements of a credit scoring institution, the rules from
PBOC are not that clear as of yet. We do think it's probably targeted that leading institutions, specifically public and as
part of the ratification plan, this is why this came out. Of course, new rules applying to a special case could be later on
widely applied to the industry.

In terms of loan facilitation business, we don't think it's currently directly involved. We don't think our business will be
classified as a credit scoring institution at this stage. We are maintaining various dialogues with the regulators. So in the
future, if it does become the case, rest assured, we'll get enough pre-warning so we can plan and position our business
accordingly and early.

In conclusion, we think it's early and preliminary stage. We need more clear requirements from the PBOC before we can
react with.

So it may take another quarter for the rules to be cleared.

Yong Suk Cho
Co-CEO & Director

Actually, I think there are a few more questions. So the second question is about fourth quarter take rate, 9.1%. And I
explained that's mainly because the fourth quarter new loans came with lower take rates and the margin as we reduced
a high borrowing cost to less than 24% from September last year. But when it comes to the January number. I believe
that the numbers will change. Generally, our take rate and net margin already recovered back to our expected level. In
overall, it's not less than overall 2020 level already. So we have now very good share by now.

And how reach it to that point? There is obvious to our funding costs and a CGI premium. CGI premium, our interest
partners, they also changed their charging method from the amount date -- loan amount date to balance date from mid-
January. So that, as a result, we use CGI premium ratio. And we also decreased our borrower sourcing cost.

In January, I'll start from January, we reduced our sales commission by 15%. So as a result, we saved lots of borrower
acquisition cost. So net, net our take rate net margin recovered very nicely and back to original level.

And the next question, ticket size, we don't see much change in recent a few months. Before September 4, our average
ticket size was, if you remember, it was RMB 160,000. And then since we reduced high borrowing costs and then
switched to better product segment from September 5 with low price, that increased ticket size from RMB 160,000 to
RMB 200,000. So this is – ticket size increased by about a little more than 20%. And this is the reason why we could
reduce sales commission by 15%.

And lastly, about our self-guarantee portion of 20%. As of December last year, for new loans, our self-guarantee portion
increased to 13.6%. And then we also make it up to 20% in June for new loans as part of discussion with regulator. But
further than 20%, we don't have any plan at this moment. But what I can say is -- regulatory requires more than 20%,
more than 30%, for that we have enough organic cash flow to support the extra more self-guarantee portion. So we don't
have much concern.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Winnie Wu from Bank of America.

Yi Wu
BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Two questions, I guess. First, regarding, again, the regulation and our licenses. Since November last year, CBRC
published the consultation paper for those online micro loan companies' license. Have you started to communicate with
the regulator regarding application for a national operating license? And is there any feedback from regulator on the
outlook of when we will get clarity, certainty on getting this like national operational license? And also, we -- Lufax
obtained the consumer finance license earlier last year. So what's the progress in using the consumer finance license?
How much of the business, whether it's the loan facilitated or the outstanding balance, is being done via this consumer
finance license? And what's the plan there? So that's the first regarding those licenses.

And second, James mentioned that the accounting difference from booking loans online versus off-line. I think by end of
last year, roughly -- sorry, on-balance sheet versus off-balance sheet. As of end of last year, you have over -- slightly
over 20% of the total loans outstanding on balance sheet. So what's the plan there? Do you see that further increase to
30%, 40%? Or is that going to stabilize at around 20% level? So meaning, the related question is when we will see the
normalization of -- or stabilization of the account booking for those like revenue and expenses? When will this like base
effect be normalized?

Yong Suk Cho
Co-CEO & Director

Okay. Thanks for the question. The first question about 2 licenses, online micro loan licenses. We have 3 licenses in
Chongqing, Hunan and Shenzhen, and out of the 3 two are nationwide online micro lending licenses. But we haven't got
clarity and confirmation from regulator about the next stage of development of those businesses. Those licenses are not
in use at this moment.

And then CF license, we got it in April last year. We started business from May last year. And then as of December last
year, we have -- we booked 6.5 billion new loans with about a little more than 200,000 new customers. And the ending
balance was about RMB3.5 billion. So we made a very good start. And then this is very much different from our Puhui
business. This is a complementary business to serve younger and consumption borrowers. So we believe this is an
opportunity for us, and then this can be our new base line going forward.

And the comment about accounting method [indiscernible]. On-balance sheet versus off balance sheet. It depends on
our funding mix. And then it's already stabilized, I think. Just going forward, our funding mix will be stable with 70% from
partner banks and then 30% from trust. And I believe the mix will continue without much change. So as a result, on-
balance sheet and off-balance sheet, this mix, I think, is already that stabilized.

Yi Wu
BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Sorry, just to clarify. How about you taking more -- so okay. So this 70-30 between banks and trust is already stabilized.
Is there any plan like, for example, growing of the consumer finance business might mean that you will have more loans
funded by yourself? Is that going to change the picture?

Yong Suk Cho
Co-CEO & Director

Yes. That's correct. That's very correct. But if you think about our overall scale, our Puhui loan balance as of today is
almost 600 billion. But customer finance business is, how much, it's only 3.5 billion. So no matter how quickly it grows, it
doesn't take much portion out of our total loan balance here. So it will take some time.

Gregory Dean Gibb
Co-CEO & Director

So, I think we can say with the stabilization in funding between bank and trust in terms of other on-balance sheet will
basically be driven by where we take the credit risk. And that is why I said our target would be to 20% by June. So it'll be
a little bit more over time, but it's roughly stable.

Yong Suk Cho
Co-CEO & Director

I think it's already stable [indiscernible].

Yi Wu
BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Right. And so for the consumer finance license, it will be more contained to do a pretty -- differentiated business line,
which is sort of the unsecured consumer loan. What's the average ticket size there? And what's the lending rate? Is this
significantly different from our traditional business?

Yong Suk Cho
Co-CEO & Director

Yes. That is very much different from our traditional business. The consumer finance license that the ticket size is
nothing more than 200,000. But actually, it's controlled at less than 50,000. And our ticket size even for those borrower
is less than 20,000 per borrower. At a weak average price, less than 17%APR.

Yi Wu
BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

And how about the maturity? Are those like similar to the loans of Ant and Webank, which is only like a few months of
maturity?

Yong Suk Cho
Co-CEO & Director

Maturity is quite open. It is a line of credit products. It's like a virtual credit card. So customers can choose, whenever
they pay and use that payment -- repayment service. That is like 3 months, 6 months or next 12 and then 24 months.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Thomas Chong from Jefferies.

Thomas Chong
Jefferies LLC, Research Division

I have a question about the wealth management first. Can you provide us some updates about how we are using our
technology in our automated portfolio strategy in Q4? And on the other hand, talking about the online deposit. How
much does it contribute to our client asset mix?

And then my second question is about the second half outlook. Given that we have a Q1 and the first half, how should
we think about on a full year basis in terms of the top line and the bottom line?
Gregory Dean Gibb
Co-CEO & Director

Great. Thank you, Thomas. It's Greg here. On the wealth management side, in Q4, we basically did 2 things. So there
was the existing portfolio management tools, where we continued to use more and more market data to help provide a
set -- a diversified investment strategy for the clients. And that has continued to progress in the fourth quarter as it has in
the recent year. What we've also done is opened up the platform to allow other financial advisory providers to come on
and basically providing more product, more service to the customers. So this is an area that continues to grow at a good
pace, and we think it's going to become more important in the market as a whole. And we're continuing to drive more
and more automation and more and more content sharing with customers in that lines so they can get used to diversified
investing.

On the deposit question, if you go to the end of last year of the total client assets, the deposits made up about 16% of
the total, so about RMB 660 billion. And that represented -- the revenue generated by that business was less than 0.4%
of the total company. So as we let those deposit products mature naturally, we will pay direct clients' money from those
products into other areas on the platform as we've done in the past with the likes of P2P. So it will be an ongoing
transition for that area.

And then on the Q1, just a quick response. We do believe -- or rather the first half and then for the full year, we do
believe that we will see double-digit top line and double-digit bottom line growth. We're pretty confident that, certainly, for
the first half, we'll continue to monitor the regulatory situation as it goes. But overall, we do think that the outcome for
2021 will be double-digit on both top and bottom line.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Hans Fan from CLSA.

Hans Fan
CLSA Limited, Research Division

This is Hans from CLSA. I got 2 questions. The first one is on the wealth management side. So Greg just mentioned that
the strong growth in AUM in last -- in fourth quarter last year. Looking to the guidance for first quarter and also first half
of this year, we look at the client assets. It's actually showing a slowing down in terms of growth rates. So just wondering
why we are prudent in the wealth management client assets outlook.

And also related to the wealth management side, we're wondering why the take rate for the current products were
actually down quarter-on-quarter. So what's the reason behind this? That's number one.

And number two is that just wondering on the dividend side, we understand that management mentioned previously that
there's no near-term plan to pay out any dividends. But just wondering, in terms of longer term, once we are good at the
capital front, do we have any intention to offer any dividends to investors?

Gregory Dean Gibb
Co-CEO & Director

Thanks, Hans. On the wealth management question, we anticipate 2 things happening in the first quarter with regards to
client assets. Number one is, as those deposits mature, that 16% of the finances mature, they will actually mature
reasonably quickly. The average duration of those products was about 6 to 9 months. And so that will have some
dampening effect on the CA growth.

The other thing is that we continue to accelerate the final resolution of the P2P products in the first quarter. And so we
really are going to probably push both the deposits and the P2P portion down. And then we will be shifting client money
to other areas. But the outlook, therefore, that we've taken, at least in the first half for the wealth management is we will
focus more and continue to optimize the product mix. That will allow us to continue to meet our revenue expectations for
this business. But we'll take the foot a little bit off the accelerator on the client assets as we optimize the mix. So that is
the focus for the near term, but we will update if that situation changes.

On the take rate question, we actually did have very strong growth in the fourth quarter in CA before some of these
changes like the deposits came into effect. The growth in the fourth quarter was a combination of bank asset
management products and bank deposits. And so you had an accelerated growth of the denominator with profit take
rate down a little bit so that you had a 5% decline quarter-on-quarter but a year-on-year increase of 10%. So as we look
forward into this year, 2021, we expect, over the course of the next 3 or 4 quarters that we will continue to see
improvements in take rate as we drive that mix in product on the platform.

On the question of dividends, we have no immediate plans to issue dividends. Our intent is still very much to grow the
business to deepen our use of technology. And at a later date, we could look at it, but it's not on the immediate radar.

Operator

Your final question comes from the line of Binnie Wong from HSBC.

Wai Yan Wong
HSBC, Research Division

So my question here, actually 2 questions. One is on the retail credit facilitation service fee. I think there's -- of course,
we see the decline in the past 2 quarters. And then, I guess consensus is also looking at this to decelerate especially
into the second half this year. What are some of the challenges that you might foresee that might not be able to, yet, see
the inflection point or might be later inflection point?

And then with that also -- can you have some color in terms of the service take rate as well? And then also one follow-up
question on the regulation side, is that, I remember earlier on since IPO, we talked about the interpretation, right, by
different -- on the 4x 1-year loan rate and whether that also includes the credit guarantee fees. Interpretation as to
different local courts, you also said there's different rulings. So just wanted to see any update on that. And I have just a
very quick follow-up.

Gregory Dean Gibb
Co-CEO & Director

Y.S.?

Yong Suk Cho
Co-CEO & Director

Well, first on regulation, 4x of LPR. So during the IPO, a long time ago, we said the total cap will be 24%. And then
within that, if we exclude guarantee, no, no -- the credit investment fees such as the CGIs and insurance premium, other
rate, we're trying to cap within 15.4%. And I believe now we have clarity. So we don't care about this mix.
So the Supreme Court, clarified 4x of LPR does not apply to financial lending and guarantee companies, consumer
finance or small companies. And the CBIRC guideline is 24%. So the mix are -- it doesn't really matter. So as long as
overall price is less than 24%, we believe this is very much compliant and that it is fine within current regulatory
environment.

And the first question is about the RCF fee. The overall effect of LPR will remain unchanged throughout 2021. We don't
have any plan to increase or decrease overall borrowing cost. And in terms of January number, I said our take rate and
net margin is already back to our 2020 level. Overall, our profitability in terms of take rate and net margin are very much
in line with our previous expectations. And overall LPR will stay unchanged, while a little bit changes, not much changes
throughout 2021.

Gregory Dean Gibb
Co-CEO & Director

Y.S., so I think one part of the question maybe in the mix in the service fees versus other interest income as we also
increase the risk-sharing or change in the risk-sharing model.

Yong Suk Cho
Co-CEO & Director

Yes. In terms of our fee mix, as we increase our self-guarantee portion to 20% for new loans by the end of June, so that
will increase our fee mix. I think that will increase our guarantee portion. And then service fee, they will decrease while
guarantee fee increases.

James Xigui Zheng
Chief Financial Officer

Maybe I can add a little bit. As I explained in my portion, basically, the revenue mix change is driven by 2 things. One is
between online versus -- on-balance sheet versus off-balance sheet mix change because you have seen that the on-
balance sheet loan has increased from 10% by the end of 2019 up to 22% of 2020 as a result of -- we have a
consolidated more trust loans, okay? So that's one change.

The second change is we are taking more risks. The self-guaranteed risk has been risen from 2.2% by the end of 2019
up to 6.3%. So because of these 2 factors, it's changing the revenue mix so that you see the RCF kind of platform fees
is coming down a little bit, but the revenue from the interest income from guaranteed income has substantially
increased. And that's why at the beginning -- at the middle, we've talked about, because of these kind of business factor
changes, it's reflected in our financial numbers.

Operator

That concludes Q&A for today. I now turn the call back to management for closing remarks.

Gregory Dean Gibb
Co-CEO & Director

I think -- so I think we've had a chance to lay out the basic situation here on the call, but we certainly look forward to
engaging with the analysts very deeply over the next day or 2 to answer all of the questions that are out there. And we
thank you for your attention and support. Thanks very much.

Chen Yu
Head of Board Office and Capital Markets

Thank you, everyone. That concludes the call.

Operator

That concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect. Thank you, everybody, for joining today.
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