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Wakefern Chief Customer Officer
RETAIL & CONSUMER JOURNAL                            INTERVIEW

Wakefern                    Chief Customer Officer

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                                       How has COVID-19 affected your businesses                  look and feel of mobile applications or desktop.
                                       and how did customers’ needs evolve during                 That is something that must take place internally:
                                       this time?                                                 moving that sensibility throughout the organization

A BRAND
                                                                                                  in a meaningful way so that everyone understands
                                       Honestly, I don’t think anybody could have imagined        the importance of digital. We thought we had

VOICE THAT
                                       the far-reaching implications of the virus — how           more time to implement the digital move, but
                                       people shop, how they feel about safety and crowds,        reality has taught us differently. That’s the

RISES ABOVE
                                       and their embrace of all things digital. We’ve certainly   challenge for us as an organization: How do
                                       seen an uptake in many product categories that             you accelerate digital engagement across our
                                       allow people to meet their family’s needs. And that’s      entire enterprise?
                                       had a huge impact on us.
                                                                                                  To your point, whenever I think about digital
Frédéric Thomas-Dupuis,                Our ability to deliver the same products has               and e-commerce, there are three barriers that
Oliver Wyman’s Retail & Consumer       changed: We’ve had to close our hot prepared food          come to mind: First, there is the digital interface
Goods Leader, Americas, spoke          bars, place produce inside bags, package our bread         of the e-commerce site; second, there is the
recently with Wakefern Food            rolls when we previously would not have done               picking and packing part where automation
                                       something like that. So there’s been a widespread          may be appropriate; and finally, the third piece is
Corp.’s Chief Customer Officer
                                       impact on the supply chain in the US as a result of        fulfillment — pickup and delivery. Do you feel
Steve Henig. Henig, who oversees
                                       mismatched demand. Consumer packaged goods                 that COVID-19 has accelerated any one of these
branding, e-commerce, marketing,       have been under a lot of pressure to deliver what          or all three of them?
and advertising at the member          the customer wants.
cooperative, is tasked with creating                                                              Due to unprecedented consumer demand, retailers
a single, consistent brand voice for   That’s the 30,000-feet, bird’s-eye view.                   all across the US and the globe are reporting
customers. Their talk ranged from                                                                 increases of online orders on the magnitude of
                                       What’s been happening and what has stunned                 80 percent, 100 percent, and as high as 200 percent,
the far-reaching impact of COVID-19,
                                       everyone is the consumer's embrace of all things           depending on who you speak with. Just to be able
to Wakefern’s unique structure
                                       digital, something that under the impact of the            to meet that demand and to make yourself available
and how digital will transform the     pandemic has accelerated by about three years.             to your customers with delivery time slots or pickup
sector. An edited version of their     All retailers have had to move faster in their             slots in real-time has put an enormous amount of
freewheeling conversation follows.     embrace of digital, whether it’s e-commerce, the           pressure on all of us.

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And so for us, our goal is to expand our
e-commerce offerings in a more meaningful way:
                                                             Retailers all across the US and the globe are
more slots, more stores. We’ve opened up more                reporting increases of online orders on the
e-commerce sites in the past quarter than we
have in the past two years and we continue to                magnitude of 80 percent, 100 percent and as
open more.
                                                             high as 200 percent.
But e-commerce in its current format can’t
continue, and companies will need to embrace
automation in different ways. Also, automation
means different things to different people: to
some, it means full-blown centralized fulfillment
centers; others focus on micro-fulfillment centers;   as an impediment to online sales, arguing that             When it’s your own business, when it serves the
and to others, it means direct-to-customer. That      e-commerce might pull sales out of their stores.           community you live in and friends of yours are
said, all retailers are going to have to accelerate   However, I think the way Wakefern is structured            coming into the store — that is a deep level of
their comfort zone and embrace automation to          actually enables members to be competitive. Do             engagement. And so our members took their
meet strong customer demand. Because without          you do share that view?                                    role of protecting their associates and customers
automation, it won’t be possible to meet the                                                                     very seriously.
customers’ expectations to have their products        I have absolutely no concern about our structure.
in hand in just a few hours. And when you get         What is powerful about our members is that all             What was the division of labor between Wakefern
above double-digit e-commerce penetration in          50 of them are owner-operators and they’re very            and the members during COVID-19? Was it more
your building, it starts to become very disruptive    entrepreneurial. Many have seen the future around          about headquarters providing support in areas
to your brick-and-mortar customers because item       automation. Our structure is not an inhibitor — in         that were cross-member challenges, such as
picking is taking place in the stores as customers    fact I think it’s one of the key drivers of our success.   sourcing PPE?
are going down those aisles and trying to shop.       Our members embrace innovation — including
                                                      automation.                                                Our structure is that we oversee distribution,
Wakefern is a cooperative group of supermarket                                                                   logistics, marketing, and procurement. That’s
brands, consisting of more than 50 members who        A core characteristic of your business is that your        where the power of the cooperative structure
own and operate more than 350 stores throughout       members own their stores. How did that structure           comes into play. Wakefern is at its finest in a
the Northeast. In theory, the members could act       help Wakefern respond to COVID-19?                         crisis and came together to procure as much PPE,

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chicken, toilet paper — whatever was needed so            that case, obviously, there are implications for          assortment. I would imagine that a CFC would
that our members could operate at the highest             fulfillment time.                                         skew towards a homogenized offering, with the
level in serving customers.                                                                                         range of grocery products being limited, and
                                                          That’s a complex question — the jury’s still out on       would have a hard time working with ShopRite’s
Let’s go back to the issue of e-commerce. As              it. To answer, I have to step back and ask myself as      differentiated offering.
we shift to online and digital, what’s your view          the retailer/grocer what’s the range of time that I’d
on whether customers prefer direct delivery               like to start with, what can I realistically support,     That’s right. Again, it goes back to what’s the role of
or click-and-collect? How do you think that               and then to your point, what’s the lead time that         perishables in your building and how important is
might evolve?                                             I need.                                                   it to maintain that range. Plus, what do you do with
                                                                                                                    local, because local is not going away. And so if you
It’s a fascinating topic and potentially one that a lot   Because when you move into a full CFC (centralized        think range is going to be a key differentiator in
is riding on. I think delivery to home for groceries      fulfillment center) model, you’re going to sacrifice      your communities, then a CFC will be challenged in
makes a lot of sense where you have Zip Code              lead time, and you’re also going to sacrifice the range   supporting that differentiation.
density — urban areas in other words. In many             of products in a traditional store. Companies are
of the rural areas, success may hinge on retailers’       going to have to determine whether they’re going to       Will assortments, promotions, and pricing
support of click-and-collect. Remember, most              go to market with a CFC or MFC. There are benefits        strategies need to be different in an
of America remains a car-centered society, with           to each approach. But, again, it goes back to what        e-commerce world?
people driving to and from their destinations. So         the customer wants, what’s your line of sight on
for rural areas, we’ll see click-and-collect, while in    costs, and what experience you want to deliver to         Some adjustments will be needed to the marketing
urban areas, it will be more direct delivery. For our     the customer. At the moment, however, there isn’t a       mix — digital allows for a level of personalization you
members, it will be a confluence of the two.              tight logistics model in the US to support direct-to-     could never achieve in a store. There will be a shift
                                                          customer from CFC with margins to support it. So          in how people shop and get information. There will
Let’s assume that we achieve double-digit                 it’s a jump ball on that one — you have to start with     be offers they receive online that they won’t get
e-commerce penetration levels. Do you think               the customer.                                             offline: Eliminate the waste to give the best offer
the delivery in urban centers will be fulfilled                                                                     to the customers who are most likely to receive
from a warehouse, whereas click-and-collect will          To your point on matter of range: A winning               the message.
be done from a store? And will click-and-collect          strategy has been for grocers to provide more
take a centralized approach too, with picking             differentiation. Do you see a shift in your               The biggest challenge for the industry, it seems to
for orders being fulfilled from an MFC (modified          marketing mix? Take ShopRite, which has                   me, is where we are today — that is, we still have
fulfillment center) and dropped off to stores? In         moved toward a very broad and differentiated              the grocer’s flyer, and at the same time we have

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a number of customers using the app or website          I find that marketing generally sees where                 Plus, there are so many offers and ideas that it’s
— and where we want to be tomorrow, which               we are headed in the future. Merchandising,                a little overwhelming. ROI and technology are
is much more engagement. This interim period            however, sees the same future but lacks the                evolving every day.
makes it difficult to allocate capital — whether        linkages to marketing so as to be effective in
to fund the app, the website, or partnerships           this brave new world. Do you see that as a                 Let’s talk about other players in your market.
that can help with personalization. Is that             challenge as well?                                         What do you think of discounters such as Aldi
something that is a challenge for the industry,                                                                    and Lidl? Does their future depend on digital? Or
or do you feel that is something that needs to          It’s a huge challenge. The digital ecosystem is            do their pricing strategies protect them from the
be done incrementally over time?                        complicated: There’s a staggering amount of                incursion of digital? Are they formidable rivals or
                                                        complexity, vast oceans of customer data and               fringe competitors?
This is something we discuss internally all the time.   preferences, and all of it overlaid with algorithms.
The world has become an “and world.” We didn’t          It’s a level of complexity that makes it difficult for     I think the competition in the market is upping
eliminate circulars, we didn’t eliminate billboards,    most organizations to wrap their heads around.             everyone’s game. What I would say is that
and we didn’t eliminate network television. We          That’s part of the reason why digital retailers            “digital” is a bad label for what we’re talking
just supplemented our approach with banner              have been able to move so quickly: They lack the           about. Digital for a long time meant e-commerce,
advertisements, email marketing, social media,          burden of a legacy system — digital is all they know.      but digital is really so much more broad-based
and YouTube. So we’ve augmented the traditional         Ultimately, however, merchants will understand             than that. Many retailers have very successfully
mix with a vastly expanded marketing ecosystem.         and leverage digital, but it’s a big lift at the moment.   leveraged social media to drive sales — they’re

Companies will have to be very smart about
how they go about engaging their customers.
I think it’s a continuum: Customers are going to
move away from some of the traditional means
of engagement. That’s going to free up some
capital for investing in the new digital as a means
                                                               I’m confident that when the pandemic is in the
to interact with the customer. That said, I think              rearview mirror, people will gravitate back to
companies are going to have to make investments
in the short run, of maybe five to 10 years, to fund           getting a prepared meal, rather than making it
that journey so that they can stay connected to
their customers.                                               from scratch.

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finding the right digital tools that resonate with     meal and a way to get in and out, while feeding         Do you have a vision of the role of physical store
their customers.                                       their family quickly — fast casual as well as quick     in 10 years?
                                                       service. What happens with the likes of Uber
Big companies have the scale that allows them to       Eats or Door Dash, is more people dialing up            COVID-19 has complicated the trend that we see,
look at AI, machine learning, and other innovations.   service on their smartphones and getting quick          but in the US there was a steady march toward
I’m not claiming that the big companies have an        delivery not only from a single food provider, but      e-commerce, home-meal replacement, meals away
advantage, but they have more access to funds          multiple ones.                                          from home, and better and more refined unique
to find the technology that unlocks some of                                                                    perishables. Those will be the north stars for
the challenges.                                        Is e-commerce a competitive advantage for               organizations for the next 10 years. But companies
                                                       the grocery space?                                      will need to think of how to enable e-commerce to
What’s your take on quick-service restaurants?                                                                 become central to their organization and design
Are they a big competitor that the industry needs      It can be: I think there’s a fresh play here that can   layout. How do I create the best presentation for
to take on?                                            be very compelling to a customer. If you can have       perishables? What are the best options for meal
                                                       a fresh heat-and-eat meal without having to drive       replacement? I’m confident that when the pandemic
I think so. When I think about QSR, I’m throwing       to it — that is delivered to your house and that can    is in the rearview mirror, people will gravitate back to
in Applebees, Friday’s, and other restaurants          be enjoyed by your entire family after 15 minutes       getting a prepared meal, rather than making it from
like that into my definition — not just fast-food      in the oven — then I think that is something that       scratch. Those are things that organizations will need
operators. Customers are looking for a quick           grocers can own.                                        to think about as they consider building stores.

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