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  Expect the   Catching up with   A problem   Meshing new   Asia’s great
  unexpected   the customer       shared …    with old      leap forward

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O P E N I N G   P L E N A R Y
Table of contents

Cross-border
payments: Catching
up with the customer

                                                                                                           Expect the
                                                                                                           unexpected
                                                                                          Banks must       In a world of growing uncertainty, the
                                                                                                           ability to adapt at speed and scale will be
                                                                                                                                                            of SWIFT’s traffic, as proof of the increasing
                                                                                                                                                            agility of the wholesale payments sector.
                                                                                          work together    paramount, delegates were told in Sibos
                                                                                                           2018’s Opening Plenary. All three speakers       In both retail and wholesale banking, the
                                                                                          to keep ahead    emphasised the need for banks to have the
                                                                                                           tools, technologies and – above all – mindset
                                                                                                                                                            key to growth and adaptability is the use
                                                                                                                                                            of open platforms to support further
                                                                                          of the pace of   to respond to new sources of competition,
                                                                                                           evolving trends in customer demand and
                                                                                                                                                            innovation, he suggested. In October
                                                                                                                                                            2018, SWIFT and a group of banks in
                                                                                          change.          changes in the regulatory landscape.             the Asia-Pacific region successfully
                                                                                                                                                            completed trials for a real-time cross-
                                                                                                           “It is not just the speed of change but also     border payments service over SWIFT gpi
                                                                                                           the diversity of change – from technology        through correspondent banks into domestic
                                                                                                           to product relevance to risk management          payment systems.

            SWIFT is moving fast,
                                                                                                           to the geo-political environment – that we
                                                                                                           must manage well,” said SWIFT chairman           “As banks embed gpi into their digital
                                                                                                           Yawar Shah, in his opening address.              offerings, you can start thinking of the
                                                                                                                                                            role gpi can play in e-commerce and in

            engaging, and increasingly                                                                     Fast-paced, far-reaching

                                                                                                           Taking up the theme of fast-paced and
                                                                                                                                                            the fast-growing digital payments space,”
                                                                                                                                                            Leibbrandt observed.

            working with the coalition
                                                                                                           far-reaching change, SWIFT CEO Gottfried         Enabling instant payments
                                                                                                           Leibbrandt pointed to the speed of new
                                                                                                           developments in the payments sector.             In domestic payments, the use of open
                                                                                                           “Innovation is everywhere. Especially in         platforms to support innovative solutions

            of the willing.                                                                                payments – especially in Asia,” he said. “We
                                                                                                           have never seen such levels of investment
                                                                                                           in new financial technology, especially in
                                                                                                                                                            is already firmly established. Australia’s
                                                                                                                                                            New Payments Platform (NPP) went live
                                                                                                                                                            in February 2018, enabling consumers to
            Yawar Shah, SWIFT                                                                              payments, nor such speed in development          make real-time payments using just an
                                                                                                           and change as we have over the last couple       email address or mobile phone number.
                                                                                                           of years.”
                                                                                                                                                            NPP is a key component of SWIFT’s global
                                                                                                           Noting the rapid growth to market                instant payments strategy – a strategy that
                                                                                                           dominance of Tencent’s WeChat and                also includes the provision of an instant
                                                                                          #Plenary         Alibaba’s AliPay in the Chinese retail           payments messaging service for the euro
                                                                                          #Payments        payments market, Leibbrandt cited                area. Launching in late November 2018,
                                                                        Sibos 2018:       #Fintech         SWIFT gpi’s three-year journey from              to coincide with the launch of TARGET
                                                                        Opening Plenary   #Digitisation    concept to today, where it is carrying a third   Instant Payment Settlement (TIPS) service,

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We are investing heavily
                                                to allow access to all our
                                                services through APIs.
                                                Gottfried Leibbrandt, SWIFT

SWIFT’s new messaging service will enable       Leibbrandt. “We are using our expertise to       their banking partnerships with smaller
instant payments across Europe.                 standardise API calls between banks, and         institutions, SWIFT customers are due to
                                                we are running proofs of concept to carry        submit their re-attestations by the end
Even as instant payment systems are             interbank API calls over our infrastructure.”    of the year. Failure to self-attest their
being implemented around the world the                                                           compliance with CSP’s mandatory security
underlying technologies are being refined       Duty of care                                     controls will result in customers being
and augmented to deliver new features and                                                        reported to their regulators.
functionality, with minimal disruption to       Shah also emphasised the potential of
service providers and their end-clients. “All   APIs to enable innovation, customisation         “Many global transaction banks are
these initiatives use new SWIFT technology.     and collaboration, and to facilitate data        already looking at your self-attestations,”
NPP is built on a peer-to-peer architecture     exchange and system interoperability.            Shah warned. “But early next year they
with all the intelligence at the edge. Our      But he also reminded delegates of their          will begin incorporating them into their
European solution goes a step further and       collective responsibilities in relation to the   risk management processes and start to
delivers an intelligent edge using container    careful management and protection of data        decide whether and how they will continue
technology from Docker. That means we           – often derived and collected from clients       to do business with you in the context of
and our customers can easily add new            – even as they look to enable greater data       cyber-risk.”
functionality to the edge, instead of waiting   access, integration and analysis.
for the next upgrade or software release.                                                        Raising the bar
It is like downloading an app on a smart        “SWIFT has tremendous data and
phone,” Leibbrandt explained.                   information. Leveraging it for your              Shah outlined how new SWIFT services are
                                                business purposes in a collective way with       helping banks to keep ahead of cybersecurity
To respond quickly and positively to            confidentiality and integrity is an important    threats, through new transaction monitoring
changing customer demand, service               job – and one that SWIFT takes seriously,”       services such as Daily Validation Reports
providers, including SWIFT, are rapidly         he said.                                         and Payment Controls, emphasising the
exploring and expanding the capabilities                                                         need for banks to continually upgrade their
of digital technologies. But they need to       Cybersecurity is of course a critical            capabilities. “The bar on the CSP mandatory
do so in a way that does not add excessive      element of effective and responsible             controls will continue to rise as this threat
cost and complexity for end-users               data management for financial service            evolves,” he observed.
whilst also allowing for interoperability       providers. Shah pointed out that strength
and competition. SWIFT gpi is a great           of information security arrangements             But cybersecurity is far from the only
example of how to build on secure,              is an increasingly important factor in           area in which banks must remain alert to
tested infrastructure, argued Leibbrandt,       determining commercial success. “Those           change. In concert with his fellow speakers,
while incorporating and leveraging new          firms that are able to work with their           Shah underlined the need for banks – and
technologies such as APIs to improve the        customers to protect, detect and recover         SWIFT itself – to evolve their strategies and
customer experience. Banks can easily           will be competitively advantaged in the          capabilities on an ongoing basis. “SWIFT
move to gpi, embed it in their customer         future,” he said.                                is moving fast, engaging, and increasingly
applications, and consult the tracking                                                           working with the coalition of the willing:
database through an API, he explained.          While banks are beginning to factor              banks that want to innovate and partner
                                                cybersecurity attestations under the             with SWIFT as their fintech,” he said. “In
“We are investing heavily to allow access       Customer Security Programme (CSP)                this dynamic environment, seizing the
to all our services through APIs,” said         into their due diligence when reviewing          opportunity with speed is important.”  n

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Exposing
                                                                                                    ourselves to
                                                                                                    different ways
                                                                                                    of thinking
                                                                                                    and different
                                                                                                    skills makes us
                                                                                                    stronger.
                                                                                                    Shayne Elliott,
                                                                                                    ANZ Bank

                                         In conversation with Sibos TV’s Juliette       “Customers want a better user experience        both for us and fintech providers. It’s an       made that model less efficient for many

The future of                            Foster, ANZ Bank CEO Shayne Elliott
                                         sketched out a future of banking in which
                                         human qualities could become more,
                                                                                        and increasingly engage with us using
                                                                                        technology. But all the research shows
                                                                                        that customers still want to talk to
                                                                                                                                        exciting first step,” he said.

                                                                                                                                        “Australia is among the early adopters,
                                                                                                                                                                                         banks. As we move to the open banking
                                                                                                                                                                                         era, the cost of digital opportunity has
                                                                                                                                                                                         reduced dramatically; it has begun to
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Banks must be agile,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         move at pace, and
banking will                             rather than less, important. Further, he
                                         suggested that more banks could
                                         switch focus to fewer areas of excellence
                                                                                        someone when they’re doing something
                                                                                        of real importance to them, like buying a
                                                                                        home, saving for retirement or starting
                                                                                                                                        joining a club of around 40 countries. Part
                                                                                                                                        of the next stage is how we join these
                                                                                                                                        systems together and make it a global
                                                                                                                                                                                         throw the universal model into doubt. At
                                                                                                                                                                                         ANZ, we think that the only way to win in
                                                                                                                                                                                         the future is to do fewer things, and do        respond to changing
have a human                             and expertise, shifting away from
                                         the once-dominant universal banking
                                         model.
                                                                                        a business. That’s a fundamental human
                                                                                        need and I don’t think it’ll ever disappear,”
                                                                                        he asserted.
                                                                                                                                        capability. In Australia, we’ve also got a lot
                                                                                                                                        to learn from observing how this has been
                                                                                                                                        adopted elsewhere and the innovation it
                                                                                                                                                                                         them really well.”

                                                                                                                                                                                         In future, more banks will choose either
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         customer needs.

face                                     Whilst acknowledging the growing
                                         importance of technology in delivering
                                                                                        Nevertheless, understanding and deploying
                                                                                        technology effectively is also important.
                                                                                                                                        has seeded in other economies.”

                                                                                                                                        Elliott characterised NPP as one of two key
                                                                                                                                                                                         vertically or horizontally integrated models,
                                                                                                                                                                                         suggested Elliott, increasingly partnering
                                                                                                                                                                                         in areas where they feel it is inefficient to
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Shayne Elliott, ANZ Bank

                                         services to clients, Elliott said cultural     “Even if you have the most brilliant ideas      ingredients shaping the future of payments       develop internal expertise. “Banks will look    mindset, and an honest assessment of
                                         attributes would become an increasingly        in the world, you still need to be able         in Australia, alongside open banking, which      less alike than we’ve been used to over the     strengths and weaknesses.
                                         critical factor in the future success of the   to implement them. Do you have the              is already exposing banking services to          past 20-30 years.”
                                         industry and individual institutions. “The     technology to move at pace and respond to       greater competition from non-traditional                                                         Ultimately, banks will require a “blend” of
                                         only way to be better is to have a culture     the changing environment? That requires         sources, and offering users access and           Mindset shift                                   human skills and technology capabilities
                                         that enables us to constantly adapt to         a different architecture both in a technical    ownership of their data. “When these two                                                         to succeed at a time of uncertainty and
                                         customer needs.”                               sense and in how you run the company,”          come together, we’ll see an explosion of         Banks have already proven themselves            opportunity, Elliott suggested. “The people
                                                                                        said Elliott.                                   new business models, revenue streams and         able to partner in the back office, said        who survive in a disrupted world are those
                                         Human needs, technological means                                                               customer experiences.”                           Elliott, but now need to collaborate to         that can adapt at scale and speed,” he said.
                                                                                        Elliott referenced the SWIFT-designed                                                            deliver a superior customer experience,         “Large organisations are difficult to change,
                                         According to Elliott, the ideal bank           and built New Payments Platform (NPP)           Further, Elliott suggested that NPP and          bundling services together that might not       in terms of culture, strategy and direction. To
                                         culture of the future would incorporate        – Australia’s recently-launched instant         open banking could provide the catalyst          necessarily all be manufactured in-house.       survive, banks must be agile, move at pace,
                                         a growth mindset, a willingness to             payments infrastructure – as an example         for a new type of banking model. “In the         “We’ve chosen that path at ANZ and are          and respond to changing customer needs.
                                         learn and experiment, an ability to            of how new technology can encourage             past, the universal banking model was            looking to partner with people who are
                                         listen to customers, and an approach to        further collaboration and innovation. “More     very attractive, with banks essentially          really good at what they do. Exposing           “We’re not in a position to say what the
                                         partnership that can adapt experiences         important than the real-time payments           looking to broaden customer relationships        ourselves to different ways of thinking         future looks like; we’ve just got to be ready.
                                         from other industries to banking. “All of      are the data capabilities that come with it.    by adding more services,” he explained.          and different skills makes us stronger,” he     The only way to be ready is to have people
                                         these things are human, they’re not done       As banks, we haven’t fully explored all the     “Over time, we’ve found that the cost and        said, acknowledging that this approach          who are capable of learning, adapting
                                         by robots,” he observed.                       doors that this technology will open up,        complexity of doing lots of things well has      required banks to undertake a shift of          quickly, and are open to new ideas.”   n

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C R O S S - B O R D E R   P A Y M E N T S
Opening plenary:
Expect the
unexpected

Cybersecurity:
                                                                                                                                         Banks can offer new
A problem shared …

                                                                                                                                         services by being better
                           Catching up with                                                                                              information providers.
                                                                                                                                         Philippe Henry, HSBC

                           the customer
                                                                                                            Despite recent               Few sectors of the finance industry are
                                                                                                                                         undergoing more profound or rapid
                                                                                                                                                                                        The new business models of the digital
                                                                                                                                                                                        age are also driving change at the retail
                                                                                                            innovations, a               change than international payments.
                                                                                                                                         Demand for cross-border retail payments
                                                                                                                                                                                        level, observed Jennifer Boussuge,
                                                                                                                                                                                        treasury fulfillment, service and operations
                                                                                                            more transparent,            is soaring, driven by demographic shifts,
                                                                                                                                         facilitated by super-apps and wallets. The
                                                                                                                                                                                        executive at Bank of America Merrill Lynch.
                                                                                                                                                                                        “The gig economy, the sharing economy
                                                                                                            inclusive and reliable       wholesale payments sector is reinventing
                                                                                                                                         itself in response to heightened customer
                                                                                                                                                                                        is generating huge volumes of small-value
                                                                                                                                                                                        payments, which require the development
                                                                                                            ecosystem is still a         expectations, risks and costs, warding off
                                                                                                                                         the threat of disintermediation. Technology-
                                                                                                                                                                                        of cost-effective cross-border, cross-
                                                                                                                                                                                        currency options,” she said, citing forecasts
                                                                                                            work in progress.            based innovation is critical to survival as
                                                                                                                                         distinctions between low- and high-value
                                                                                                                                                                                        by Accenture that the value of cross-border
                                                                                                                                                                                        payment volumes will rise by 5.6% per
                                                                                                                                         channels fade. But other skills and assets     annum up to 2022.
                                                                                                                                         will also be needed to keep up with demand
                                                                                                                                         and ahead of the competition. Sibos 2018’s     To provide these options, neither banks nor
                                                                                                                                         payments sessions indicate the pace of         their fintech competitors are attempting to
                                                                                                                                         change will not relax for some time.           fly solo, instead partnering to meet specific
                                                                                                                                                                                        customer needs with a tailored mix of
                                                                                                                                         In Monday’s big issue debate, ‘Re-             capabilities.
                                                                                                                                         engineering international payments for
                                                                                                                                         a fast, digital age’, panellists highlighted   China’s Ant Financial, for example,
                                                                                                                                         the importance of customer focus,              partners with local banks in nine
                                                                                                                                         collaboration in service development           countries to provide digital wallet and
                                                                                                                                         and delivery, and the potential for data       other smartphone-based services that
                                                                                                                                         analytics to enhance customer experience.      bring payments and micro-credit to the
                                                                                                                                                                                        previously unbanked. “We work with local
                                                                                                                                         Philippe Henry, global head of                 partners to deliver wallets, but we work
                                                                                                                                         corporate, financial and multinationals        with banks on many other fronts. It’s a
                                                                                                                                         banking at HSBC, said banks must               collaborative relationship,” explained Clara
                                                                                                                                         reimagine payments as a service, not           Shi, head of financial institution strategic
                                                                                                                                         a product. “Clients are facing up to the       partnerships in Ant Financial’s international
                                                                                                                                         consequences of the fourth industrial          business group. The firm develops
                                                                                                                                         revolution. They are revisiting how they       partnerships with merchants across Asia
                                                                                     Sibos 2018:                                         work with customers and suppliers. If we       in order to supply payment services to
                                                                                     Re-engineering         #BigIssueDebate              understand these changes, we can offer         Chinese consumers abroad, she added.
                                                                                     international          #Payments                    more tailor-made services. Payments is a
                                                                                     payments for a fast,   #CorporateTreasuryAndTrade   part of that challenge, if not necessarily     In response to the burgeoning market for
                                                                                     digital age            #GPI                         at the centre,” he said.                       low-value cross-border payments, Western

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Intelligent                                                                                                                                    Many
automation                                                                                                                                     treasurers
will empower                                                                                                                                   struggle to
clients.                                                                                                                                       achieve daily
                                                                                                                                               visibility.
Jennifer Boussuge,
Bank of America Merrill Lynch

                                                                                                                                               George Zinn, Microsoft

Union has invested heavily in digital          access to payment-related information,           Virtual reality?                               status. This approach solves some              Swedish subsidiary to an Australian parent      George Zinn, corporate vice president
transformation over the past decade.           Henry also noted the security implications                                                      operational efficiency problems, but we        could take up to seven days. Dan Birdseye,      and treasurer at Microsoft, said this kind
According to Molly Shea, global manager        of open banking. “When banks offer open          The twin need to reduce costs and              can also overlay third-party solutions         group treasury manager at Cochlear,             of service could help address a common
for global money transfer, Asia Pacific at     access to our systems, via mobile apps           increase service levels to corporate           to address other pain points around            said the firm had started to take a highly      fraud tactic whereby a supplier is sent an
Western Union, the firm is reaping the         etc, we have to have appropriate security        and institutional customers is leading         sanction screening and account validation      conservative approach to month-end              email claiming to confirm new payment
rewards with 40% annual growth in digital      features too, including biometrics,” he          correspondent banks to rethink the             in a more comprehensive way than at            reconciliation. “Visibility and speed is what   instructions. “Many treasurers struggle
revenues, as mobile and wallet payment         observed.                                        mechanisms underpinning cross-border           present,” explained Ashish Sharma, chief       we’re after. I will only rely on what I can     to achieve daily visibility. If you reconcile
volumes multiply.                                                                               payments. The linear nature of the             operating officer for global payment           see in my account, rather than including        at month-end, it can be hard to identify a
                                               BAML’s Boussuge said corporate customers         correspondent banking transaction chain        services in the financial institutions group   expected in-bound payments,” said               fraudulent payment that took place earlier
“Customer expectations are very advanced.      were already beginning to benefit from new       has led to increased duplication and           at Wells Fargo.                                Birdseye. “We don’t need payments sent in       in the month,” he noted.  n

As service providers, we have to keep          initiatives in cross-border payments – such      inefficiency in recent years, with KYC and                                                    a matter of seconds: same-day value would
catching up,” admitted Shea. “The future       as the greater speed and transparency            other compliance checks being applied          Niall Cameron, global head of corporate        be good.”
will be about collaboration and partnership.   being delivered via SWIFT gpi – but insisted     multiple times. Although SWIFT gpi now         and institutional digital, HSBC, added that
Fintechs are good at the customer              more innovation was needed, citing the use       sheds greater light on a payment’s status,     a virtual ledger could help correspondent      In this context, panellists welcomed the
experience, but more established providers     of real-time data sets to develop self-service   helping to identify bottlenecks and thus       banks to meet their compliance obligations     greater transparency on cross-border
really understand customer needs when          models. An increasing number of banks            increase speeds, could a more radical shift    in the era of instant payments. “When          payments offered by SWIFT gpi, noting that
moving cross-border payments securely          are already using AI to support customer         also eliminate duplicated effort and cost?     payments become instant, our approach to       gpi tracking for multi-banked corporates
and efficiently.”                              service teams, for example, to reply to                                                         screening and compliance has to change,        went live in October. In a subsequent
                                               simple client queries or refer complex ones      Some have proposed solutions that              in concert with regulators,” he said. “With    session, centred on the potential benefits
In the corporate market, emerging              on to staff. Boussage suggested technology       leverage distributed ledger technology. But    this model, all messages could go up to the    of open banking to corporates, Mark
business models not only require upgraded      would help to offer greater flexibility to       in ‘Cross-border payments over a virtual       cloud layer where the sanction screening       McNulty, global head of clearing and FI
cross-border payment services but new          clients and efficiency to providers.             centralised ledger – future or utopia?’,       process is executed at a higher standard,      payments at Citi, said the combination
information services. “Clients are more                                                         panellists considered the merits of a cloud-   with more information.”                        of open banking and instant payments
demanding today due to the pressure they       “Intelligent automation will empower             based service layer across correspondent                                                      could yield new collection opportunities
face to revisit their business models. We      clients to access services where, when and       banking networks. In this model, banks         “Visibility and speed”                         for firms switching to direct-to-consumer
now have solutions that utilise and share      how they want,” she said.                        and other service providers would use                                                         sales models in the digital age, especially
information across the ecosystem – partly                                                       APIs to provide and/or access services via     Two further sessions – both focused on         in Asian markets where card penetration
driven by (EU Directive) PSD2 and the          Ant Financial’s Chi agreed that new use          a central cloud utility, not only tracking     the needs of corporates – suggested            is less comprehensive. “You can request
new service providers it brings in. Banks      cases and customer experiences would             transaction status, but applying KYC           transparency is one of several cross-          a payment through open banking, then
can offer new services by being better         continue to emerge. “The journey is just at      checks or other services.                      border payments needs not being met            get the payment by immediate return in
information providers,” said HSBC’s Henry.     the beginning,” she said. “We’ve completed                                                      satisfactorily.                                a country that has implemented instant
                                               100 metres of a 10,000-metre run. We need        “Instead of messages flowing back and                                                         payments,” he said, adding that Citi is
Acknowledging the role of APIs in              contributions from all parties to build a        forth between institutions for cross-          In ‘Service matters – how can banks better     working with various bodies to define a
facilitating the development of new            more transparent, inclusive and reliable         border payments, banks could call into the     serve corporates on the seller side?’,         new API standard that enables payment
value-added payment services and greater       financial ecosystem.”                            cloud via API to determine transaction         delegates heard how a payment from a           requests and micro-credit.

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Sibos Issues I Sibos 2018 Sydney I 22-25 October
Can
technology
release trade
from legacy
technology
and
governance?

                                         Cross-border payment volumes might be          system that is keeping us anchored in                                   On the same morning, an optimistic view of     ecosystem for the benefit of all, added
                                         surging, but the outlook for trade finance     yesterday’s capabilities?” he added.                                    the global trading environment was offered     Khanna, citing China’s One Belt, One Road
                                         transactions – and the commercial flows                                                                                by Parag Khanna, a renowned author and         initiative, which is creating much-needed
                                         they support – is clouded by geo-political     The multilateral institutions of trade’s                                advisor on international relations. In his     physical trading infrastructure across Asia
                                         tensions. Introducing ‘Trade wars and          established governance framework had                                    breakfast keynote, Khanna argued that          and into Europe. From energy to finance
                                         technology – A new era for trade finance’,     failed to resolve bilateral disagreements,                              accelerating investment in cross-border        to the internet, the connectivity between
                                         Coriolis Technologies CEO Rebecca Harding      panellists agreed. Further, the US dollar’s                             infrastructure and connectivity – digital      domestic capabilities through globalisation
                                         said US-China disagreements were just the      role as dominant settlement currency                                    and physical – would ensure governmental       bolstered overall system resilience, he said.
                                         most prominent example of trade becoming       brought global trade within oversight of a                              disagreements did not lead to open conflict
                                         “weaponised”.                                  jurisdiction with increasingly unpredictable                            or outright isolation. “The more the world     “Being big doesn’t make you important,
                                                                                        trade policies.                                                         becomes an integrated marketplace, the         being connected makes you important,”
                                         Panellists noted the challenges of financing                                                                           more we compete over supply chains,” he        he concluded. “All countries are realising
                                         global supply chains in an uncertain           Could the World Trade Organisation and the                              observed.                                      that connectivity is how you enhance your
                                         political climate. Rajkiran Rai, CEO, Union    US$ be replaced by a new trade paradigm,                                                                               influence.” n

                                         Bank of India, said the 180-day trade cycle    based on the blockchain and a country-                                  Rather than a war, Khanna characterised
                                         left banks highly susceptible to interest      neutral crypto-currency? Daniel Schmand,                                current struggles as a tug-of-war in which
                                         rate and currency movements. “Banks            global head of trade finance at Deutsche                                nations compete for influence over the
                                         are exposed to huge risks, due to a lack of    Bank and chairman of the International                                  binds that connect their economies.
                                         confidence in the system,” he said.            Chamber of Commerce’s (ICC) banking                                     Further, he explained that the rise of China
                                                                                        commission, said it was possible to make                                had been achieved by a well-established
                                         But they welcomed the potential for            trade governance more independent from                                  template that was increasingly being
                                         smarter use of data to increase credit         geo-politics. The ICC is already exploring                              pursued by other countries in Asia and
                                         risk appetite, by enhancing visibility         the potential of technology to reform world                             beyond. This approach relies on the
                                         across counterparties and intermediaries.      trade, but Schmand acknowledged the                                     development of an increasing number and
                                         In particular, this could accelerate           need for support from other bodies to raise    The more the world       complexity of interactions with trading
If we can change the                     international expansion by SMEs.               the subject at a G-20 summit.                                           counterparties to bring an economy and its
                                                                                                                                       becomes an integrated    workers up the value chain.
way we share data, we                    “If we can change the way we share data,       “First, we need to create an ecosystem
                                         and permission others to see that data, we     in which technology is able to come to         marketplace, the more    “The import-displacement industrial policy
can begin to change                      can begin to change where the risk sits,”      its full fruition, perhaps starting with a                              is how America became a super-power in
                                         said Jason Kelley, general manager at IBM      closed loop, and then branch out. It may be    we compete over supply   the 19th century. China is no different and
where the risk sits.                     Blockchain Services. Not only can innovation   possible also to agree on a new currency                                now India is doing it too,” he observed.
                                         improve credit access, it has significant      and settlement system outside of the           chain.
Jason Kelley,                            governance implications. “The system is        traditional currencies. But we need to start                            Whilst these policies are pursued for self-
IBM Blockchain Services                  the challenge. How do we get beyond the        with baby steps,” he said.                     Parag Khanna             interest, they also strengthen the broader     Sibos 2018: Breakfast Keynote - 23 Oct 2018

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Sibos Issues I Sibos 2018 Sydney I 22-25 October
C Y B E R S E C U R I T Y
Cross-border
payments: Catching
up with the customer

Domestic payments:
                                                                                                                        The worst case scenario
Meshing new with old

                                                                                                                        is when cybercriminals
                                                                                                                        attempt several attacks
                                                                                                                        simultaneously.
                                                                                                                        Dmitry Samartsev, BI.ZONE

                           A problem
                                                                                               From large-scale         Financial institutions and market
                                                                                                                        infrastructures are more vulnerable to a
                                                                                                                                                                        their money, they can cause just as much
                                                                                                                                                                        duress to the system as a major network
                                                                                               threats to the entire    9/11-style, black swan cybersecurity event
                                                                                                                        than other critical infrastructures on which
                                                                                                                                                                        outage for example,” she said.

                                                                                               industry to the          society relies, such as telcos or even power
                                                                                                                        grids. Sibos 2018’s big issue debate on
                                                                                                                                                                        The biggest threat of a black swan
                                                                                                                                                                        cybersecurity event in the financial service

                           shared …
                                                                                               response tactics of      cybersecurity grappled with how global
                                                                                                                        market operators and participants should
                                                                                                                                                                        industry comes not from state-sponsored
                                                                                                                                                                        cyberwarfare, terrorists or hackers, but
                                                                                               smaller firms, greater   collaborate, innovate and work to improve
                                                                                                                        resilience against cybersecurity threats.
                                                                                                                                                                        rather from organised criminals, via the
                                                                                                                                                                        dark web, said Dmitry Samartsev, chief
                                                                                               coordination can         Jacqueline McNamara, head of cybersecurity
                                                                                                                                                                        executive officer of BI.ZONE, a Russian
                                                                                                                                                                        cybersecurity firm. Organised cybercrime
                                                                                               reduce cybersecurity     at Australian telecommunications giant
                                                                                                                        Telstra, explained how her firm runs scenario
                                                                                                                                                                        is increasing every year, he asserted, and
                                                                                                                                                                        is absorbing more resources to develop
                                                                                               risks.                   testing in order to plan and test responses
                                                                                                                        to attacks on network resilience or network
                                                                                                                                                                        tools that leverage artificial intelligence
                                                                                                                                                                        for use in more sophisticated attacks.
                                                                                                                        outages. She said the company’s Network         Samartsev also noted that cybercriminals
                                                                                                                        2020 plan focuses on resilience, pointing out   will collaborate in ways that institutions
                                                                                                                        that the imminent arrival of fifth generation   and governments do not.
                                                                                                                        mobile phone networks would reduce
                                                                                                                        vulnerability of systems hitherto dependent     “The worst case scenario is when
                                                                                                                        on a single cable or physical installation.     cybercriminals attempt several attacks
                                                                                                                        Noting the efforts made by Australia to         simultaneously,” he said. “For example
                                                                                                                        implement collaborative frameworks              they’re making DDOS attacks and then
                                                                                                                        between business and government to              at the same time they’re making huge
                                                                                                                        protect critical infrastructure against         informational attacks on social networks
                                                                                                                        security threats, McNamara said that a          – spreading fake news claiming that the
                                                                                                                        cyber-attack impacting financial service        biggest banks are going down. Can you
                                                                                                                        infrastructures could be as big a challenge     imagine the domino effect it will have? This
                                                                                                                        to a country as an attack on its                will lead to troubles with liquidity, troubles
                                                                                               #BigIssueDebate          telecommunications network.                     with central banks or troubles with the
                                                                     Sibos 2018:               #Cyber                                                                   government. Cybercrime has no borders
                                                                     Is a ‘cyber 9/11’ event   #MarketInfrastructures   “When you have significant impact to            and there must be cooperation between
                                                                     inevitable?               #Culture                 financial systems, or people can’t get to       countries and companies.”

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Significant barriers are
associated with sharing
material, from the point
of view of customer
relationship management.
David Pegley,
Australian Financial Crimes Exchange

                                         Business risk                                 its efforts to collaborate. However, speakers   to attacks that can spread throughout the         campaigns. Not only are you securing
                                                                                       acknowledged that there are real barriers       supply chain.                                     your organisation, but you’re also
                                         By treating cybersecurity threats             to sharing information across institutions,                                                       securing your home life.”
                                         as a business risk, rather than an IT         such as privacy regulations and the             Kathryn Taylor, a researcher with the Cyber
                                         consideration, organisations are better       protection of customer data.                    Policy Initiative at the Carnegie Endowment       Incident response training is also a key part
                                         able to manage the potential repercussions                                                    for International Peace, presented research       of any organisation’s cybersecurity strategy,
                                         throughout the organisation, Sibos
                                         delegates were told in the SWIFT
                                         Institute session titled ‘Cyber – How
                                                                                       “Significant barriers are associated with
                                                                                       sharing material, from the point of view
                                                                                       of customer relationship management
                                                                                                                                       commissioned by the SWIFT Institute in a
                                                                                                                                       session entitled ‘Protecting the ‘long-tail’ of
                                                                                                                                       smaller organisations from cyber attacks’,
                                                                                                                                                                                         due to the importance of managing the
                                                                                                                                                                                         aftermath of an attack to its impact and
                                                                                                                                                                                         recovery, said Chris Hockings, CTO for IBM
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Compliance
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         is necessary,
                                         you can mitigate the business risk?’ Dr       and ensuring there is appropriate focus         in which she noted that governments               Security in Australia and New Zealand, in
                                         Maria Milosavljevic, government chief         on privacy,” said David Pegley, managing        are attempting to build resources and             the same panel discussion. To help clients
                                         information security officer for the          director, Australian Financial Crimes           processes for smaller firms. In one               improve incident response, IBM has built
                                         Australian state of New South Wales,          Exchange, a non-profit, cross-industry          example, Taylor cited the UK’s National           a truck, the interior of which serves as a
                                         suggested that while the understandable
                                         initial organisational response to cyber
                                         risk is to focus on putting controls on
                                                                                       organisation. “The challenges within each
                                                                                       institution lie in their legal and compliance
                                                                                       requirements – the interpretation of
                                                                                                                                       Cyber Security Centre, which has issued
                                                                                                                                       a guide for smaller businesses outlining
                                                                                                                                       governance and operational approaches to
                                                                                                                                                                                         simulation room in which executive teams
                                                                                                                                                                                         and CISOs test their response plans to a
                                                                                                                                                                                         cyberattack, Hockings explained.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         practice is
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         essential.
                                         technology access, a more holistic view       the law between different jurisdictions         managing cyber risks.
                                         would seek to put in place mitigation         is important in considering sharing of                                                            “When we started, we thought people
                                         strategies as well.                           material. We do our best to deal with this      Incident response                                 would be doing exercises on computers,
                                                                                       within constituencies, primarily through                                                          but in reality they needed to realise how
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Chris Hockings,
                                         “What else increases your likelihood of       standardising exactly what we share,            Managing how staff responds to risks, in          would they coordinate during an incident,”
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         IBM Security
                                         something going wrong?” she asked. “Poor      how we share and, more importantly, the         addition to managing technology controls,         Hockings said. “Panic can set in. You
                                         contact management arrangements, not          behaviours recipients of that information       is an area that organisations, large or           [must] work out who your leaders are
                                         being able to hold people to account when     will adopt.”                                    small, can address, said Andrew Pade, chief       when you immerse them into an unfamiliar
                                         things go wrong, buying from the wrong                                                        information security officer (CISO) at the        circumstance: ‘Your response plan is not
                                         suppliers, not knowing where your critical    Experts emphasised the need for greater         Reserve Bank of Australia, noting that the        there. Your systems are offline. What are
                                         assets are.”                                  collaboration on a number of fronts: at a       majority of cybersecurity breaches occur          you going to do?’ You don’t know until you
                                                                                       pre-competitive level between financial         due to staff action, such as clicking on a        test it. Compliance is necessary, practice is
                                         A persistent message across all the           institutions themselves; between institutions   link in a phishing attack.                        essential.”
                                         cybersecurity sessions at Sibos 2018 was      and government and regulators; and across
                                         that organised cybercrime is already          supply chains. This can take up significant     “The technologists love to buy                    This level of immersive training may not
                                         collaborating and sharing information,        resource for global organisations, but there    technology, because it solves problems,”          be available to smaller organisations,
                                         and thus has a potential significant          are also complex issues facing smaller and      Pade said. “[But] if you’re in a small            acknowledged Hockings, but the principle
                                         knowledge advantage over financial            medium sized institutions, which can be         organisation, you can educate your staff          of running simulations and testing plans is
Sibos 2018 highlights: Cybersecurity     institutions if the sector does not step up   less prepared and thus more vulnerable          on how to identify the typical phishing           still possible.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      n

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In the time of Sigmund Freud, solving an          In terms of the legal and regulatory                                    said. “We’ve seen a lot of startups trying      “The JCSC initiative is looking at this

Solving the                              identity crisis necessitated a therapist and
                                         a couch. But in the 21st century, an identity
                                         crisis has different implications – and
                                                                                           framework, Bayle noted the efforts of EU
                                                                                           member state governments to coordinate
                                                                                           on the introduction of electronic identities,
                                                                                                                                                                   to solve the identity issue with blockchain.
                                                                                                                                                                   But it’s going to be very difficult for one
                                                                                                                                                                   organisation to own the solution. It needs
                                                                                                                                                                                                                   from an economy-wide perspective. I think
                                                                                                                                                                                                                   it’s really important that governments
                                                                                                                                                                                                                   facilitate that kind of conversation. The

identity crisis                          demands a different response – compared
                                         with an existential loss of self. Identity
                                         theft is a growing aim of cybersecurity
                                                                                           adding that legislation such as Europe’s
                                                                                           recent Payment Services Directive (PSD2)
                                                                                           is already playing a role in protecting
                                                                                                                                                                   to be a consortium. The government
                                                                                                                                                                   obviously has a significant role to play, and
                                                                                                                                                                   the banks.”
                                                                                                                                                                                                                   concept of safe harbour is very important
                                                                                                                                                                                                                   here too,” she added. n

                                         attacks, requiring banks to invest and plan       customers and payment service providers.
                                         accordingly.                                                                                                              As with broader cybersecurity threats,
                                                                                           “PSD2 helps to increase interaction                                     panellists suggested that coordination
                                         In a session entitled ‘How do we solve            between actors in a digital payments                                    between organisations can increase the
                                         the identity crisis in a digital world?’,         world,” Bayle de Jessé said. “This also                                 ability of institutions and individuals to
                                         representatives from banking, payments,           creates the necessity to strengthen                                     respond in the event of identity theft. A
                                         market supervision and the legal world            standards to make sure people are well                                  recent Australian industry-wide review,
                                         considered the risks and possible solutions       identified when they initiate payments or                               cited by Victoria Richardson, chief strategy
                                         to identity theft.                                circulate information about their accounts.                             officer at the Australian Payments
                                                                                           There are already a range of authentication                             Network, highlighted the need for real-
                                         The stakes are high and the probability is        techniques available; fintech can bring                                 time sharing of actionable information,
                                         rising. Michael Bui, head of identity and         more and we are open to that. As a central                              consistent incident response management
The good guys have                       access management at Commonwealth Bank            bank, we support innovation and believe                                 and awareness generation.
                                         of Australia, noted that a person has a one       that is good for the development of our
to exert caution                         in 15 chance of having their identity stolen or   economy.”                                                               “The good guys have to exert caution
                                         being a victim of a data breach each year.                                                                                around who they share information with,
around who they share                                                                      In terms of innovative solutions, Nick          I think we’ll become    and the bad guys don’t,” Richardson said.
                                         “We are in a world where the opportunity          Abrahams, global head of technology and                                 “They share the information with everyone.”
information with, and                    of identity theft is quite high,” admitted        innovation at Norton Rose Fulbright, called     much more comfortable   To address this issue, the Australian federal
                                         Marc Bayle de Jessé, director general for         facial recognition technology a “game                                   government is leading an initiative to
the bad guys don’t.                      market infrastructure and payments at the         changer” to protect identity.                   with biometrics.        support cross-industry collaboration and
                                         European Central Bank, noting also the                                                                                    secure information sharing through the
Victoria Richardson,                     cross-sectoral nature of the threat as more       “I think we’ll become much more                 Nick Abrahams,          establishment of a network of Joint Cyber
Australian Payments Network              of our daily lives become digitised.              comfortable with biometrics,” Abrahams          Norton Rose Fulbright   Security Centres (JCSC).

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D O M E S T I C   P A Y M E N T S
Cybersecurity:
A problem shared …

Innovation in Asia:
Asia’s great leap
forward

                                                                                                                           Meshing new
                                                                                                                           with old
                                                                                                  As new technologies offer greater choice and
                                                                                                  convenience, the payment mechanisms of the
                                                                                                  past must also be accommodated.
                                                                                                                            To many, making a payment by cheque          “As new technologies are introduced, the
                                                                                                                            might seem as old-fashioned as travelling    old ones don’t go away. The challenge
                                                                                                                            on a steam engine or listening to a vinyl    for everybody is: how do you build
                                                                                                                            record. But one of the surprises of Sibos    technology for diversification of payments
                                                                                                                            2018’s big issue debate on disruption in     or systems; and how can you handle
                                                                                                                            the domestic payments landscape was the      legacy along with new products? We have
                                                                                                                            revelation that personal cheques are still   to start from what the customers want,
                                                                                                                            widely used. In fact, 25% of respondents     because they are demanding payment
                                                                                                                            to an audience poll had written a cheque     systems that are efficient, seamless
                                                                                                                            within the past six months.                  and instant,” said Ulku Rowe, technical
                                                                                                                                                                         director of financial services at Google
                                                                                                                            While the domestic payments industry         Cloud.
                                                                                                                            is gradually being reshaped by
                                                                                                                            new technologies, from application           In a debate that challenged payments
                                                                                                                            programming interfaces (APIs) to             professionals to think and work more
                                                                                                                            distributed ledger technology, the poll      disruptively, while respecting and
                                                                                                  #BigIssueDebate           reminded panellists and delegates of the     maintaining the payment mechanisms
                                                                             Sibos 2018:          #Payments                 need to accommodate legacy payment           on which customers still rely, panellists
                                                                             Disruption in the    #MarketInfrastructures    mechanisms when implementing fresh           acknowledged that the pace of change has
                                                                             payments landscape   #Cryptocurrencies         innovations.                                 not always been rapid.

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Customers                                                                                                                               There is
are demanding                                                                                                                           tremendous
payment                                                                                                                                 opportunity for
systems that                                                                                                                            both incumbent
are efficient,                                                                                                                          banks and non-
seamless and                                                                                                                            traditional
instant.                                                                                                                                players.
Ulku Rowe,                                                                                                                              Leila Fourie,
Google Cloud                                                                                                                            Australian Payments Network

                                         As the digital revolution took shape,          – so the pricing and value that is attributed                                 technology giants such as Apple and           explained, speaking during a SWIFT
                                         quickly spreading from IT and consumer         to payments might be fundamentally                                            Amazon, which have thrived by developing      Institute panel discussion.
                                         electronics to many other retail-facing        different to the traditional banking model.”                                  platforms that give third-party providers
                                         sectors, most banks were dealing with the                                                                                    access to a global customer base, while       Optimising data
                                         aftermath of the financial crisis, which put   Asked in a second audience poll to rate the                                   also giving customers easy, standardised
                                         them on the back foot in embracing new         most important feature of any changes to a                                    and cost-effective access to a wide range     For banks seeking to remain relevant in
                                         technologies.                                  payment system, 46% of respondents cited                                      of services.                                  this fast-changing payments environment,
                                                                                        ease of use, while security and regulation                                                                                  one of the core challenges is to extract
                                         “It took banks slightly longer to put a        came in second with 30%, followed by                                          The NPP was built on a similar premise with   value from data in a similar way to their
                                         strategic focus on innovation, but we are      stability and speed.                                                          a basic infrastructure, a fast settlement     more nimble non-bank competitors. Just
                                         catching up and technology offers huge                                                                                       service provided by the Reserve Bank of       as banks may have been slow off the mark
                                         opportunities,” said Michael Spiegel, global   Australia has become something of a                                           Australia that allows every payment to be     in embracing technological innovation in
                                         head of cash management at Deutsche            poster child for payments innovation,                                         settled in real time, and an overlay that     payments, they are also playing catch-up
                                         Bank. “We don’t know where payments will       following the launch of the New Payments                                      enables products and services to leverage     with fintechs in leveraging and optimising
                                         land because the space is so innovative        Platform (NPP) in February 2018. Informed                                     the NPP to provide tailored payment           customer data to refine and tailor their
                                         and disruptive. Settlement of payments         by a core mission to provide domestic                                         experiences.                                  services.
                                         probably won’t change much, but the            consumers, businesses and government
                                         communication and the way you get there        departments with a means of making                                            With eight banks connected directly           “Banks have such a big amount of data but
                                         will change a lot.”                            payments faster and more efficiently, the                                     and another 70 indirectly, the NPP has        we have never exploited it, so it’s an asset
                                                                                        NPP has become a reference point in the                                       embraced the concept of open access,          for the future, with respect to data privacy
                                         Ripe for change                                industry, demonstrating the transformative                                    working with SWIFT to develop an              legislation as a trusted third party,” said
                                                                                        power of bringing new technologies to                                         infrastructure that ensures availability to   Fabrice Denele, senior vice president for
                                         Other payments specialists agreed that         conventional processes.                                                       non-bank organisations. But keeping the       partnerships and interbank relationships
                                         the proliferation of new technologies and                                                                                    barriers to entry as low as possible is not   and head of customer solutions at
                                         innovative challenger organisations have       “The most important thing in meshing                                          always easy, said Adrian Lovney, chief        Natixis Payments. “Banks have millions
                                         combined to create a payments landscape        different technologies is making sure you                                     executive of the NPP.                         of customers and this creates some
                                         that is now ripe for change.                   take a regulatory enabling environment,                                                                                     constraints; we cannot act as a fintech
                                                                                        robust and scalable technology and focus                                      “One of the challenges for us is to think     and test and run a new product for a small
                                         “There is tremendous opportunity for           on the customer,” said Fourie. “With                                          about how we extend the ecosystem             customer base. When we decide to launch
                                         both incumbent banks and non-traditional       NPP, there was an enormous amount of                                          in a way that allows as many different        a product or service, it has to be reliable,
                                         players to take a role in the distribution     collaboration between regulators and                                          people to connect to that infrastructure      dedicated to everyone, and it has to work
                                         and manufacturing of products,” said Leila     participants, and between the fintech and                                     as possible. Market participants were         every single day.”
                                         Fourie, chief executive of the Australian      banking industries.”                                                          looking for consistency, standardisation
                                         Payments Network. “The objective of non-                                                                                     and interoperability in terms of the access   But other speakers took issue with the
                                         traditional players is to keep people on       Acknowledging their impact on client                                          methods. In response, we developed            concept that banks cannot compete with
                                         their platform. Moving money is not always     expectations, payments professionals have                                     an API framework that provides this           the same agility as fintechs, suggesting
Sibos 2018 highlights: Banking           central – payments happen in the periphery     sought to learn lessons from consumer                                         consistency and harmonisation,” Lovney        that a large incumbent customer base

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We see the potential
                                                                                                                                    opportunity to address
                                                                                                                                    challenges in the
                                                                 We don’t know                                                      traditional settlement
                                                                 where payments                                                     networks.
                                                                 will land because                                                  Lewis Sun,
                                                                                                                                    HSBC

                                                                 the space is so
                                                                 innovative and
                                                                 disruptive.                                                                     How would a CBDC
                                                                 Michael Spiegel,
                                                                 Deutsche Bank
                                                                                                                                                  make things more
                                                                                                                                                      efficient and
                                                                                                                                                      competitive?
                                                                                                                                                                 Michele Bullock,
should not be a barrier to innovation.
                                                                                                                                                         Reserve Bank of Australia
Thomas Nielsen, chief digital officer
for Deutsche Bank’s global transaction
business, argued that the industry is
moving away from a model of ‘walled
gardens’ – where banks owned and
operated the entire stack of payments
technology and services – towards an open
                                                                                     Industry urged to lead the way
access model.

Nielsen illustrated his point with reference
                                                                                     on digital currencies
to the way that Nokia’s dominant position
in the mobile phone sector was quickly                                               The evolution of central bank digital          demonstrate to us why what we have got           still some way to go before they become
overturned by the new partner-based                                                  currencies (CBDCs) is a positive example       available in terms of payment systems            widely accepted. Despite conceptual and
business model introduced by Apple’s                                                 of the public sector embracing new             and what is still coming onboard can’t           practical challenges, discussions at Sibos
iPhone and App Store, warning of similar                                             technologies and disruption in the             actually deliver that already. How would         reflected a high level of interest in potential
consequences for banks. But he insisted                                              payments landscape, but industry               a CBDC make things more efficient and            benefits.
that banks have the assets and capabilities                                          participants also have a role to play in       competitive?”
to respond positively to the challenges                                              demonstrating use cases and tackling                                                            “From a commercial banking point of
ahead.                                                                               associated challenges.                         Financial inclusion and the extension of         view, we see the potential opportunity to
                                                                                                                                    banking to the world’s poor is one area          address a few challenges we have seen in
“What banks and financial institutions                                               During a panel discussion on the prospects     where session participants felt digital          the traditional settlement networks. The
can bring to the table is the knowledge                                              for this emerging asset class, Reserve         currencies might ultimately play a valuable      ability to address availability, ubiquitous
of a global network, customer experience                                             Bank of Australia assistant governor           role, by offering a more accessible and          access to markets, no time-zone, and the
and understanding how to do business                                                 Michele Bullock explained that while digital   secure form of tender. A digital currency        settlement mechanism can all be achieved.
in multiple regions in a trustworthy and                                             currencies are not expected to replace         could have a more challenging impact in a        However, to succeed technology must also
compliant way,” said Nielsen.     n                                                  standard bank notes in Australia, they         future systemic crisis scenario, however, as     be accompanied by other changes, such
                                                                                     might still have a significant role in the     large numbers of people might look to hold       as a consistent approach by regulators,”
                                                                                     payment systems of the future.                 value in CBDCs rather than withdrawing           said Lewis Sun, regional head of product
                                                                                                                                    cash, which could put new strains on the         management for global liquidity and cash

                                               Data is an asset for the future.
                                                                                     “We have more of an open mind on               financial system.                                management in Asia-Pacific at HSBC.      n

                                                                                     whether or not a CBDC could play a
                                                                                     role in assisting with supply chains and       While some countries such as Sweden and
                                               Fabrice Denele,                       cross-border payments, for example,” said      Singapore are already in the advanced
                                               Natixis                               Bullock. “It remains for the industry to       stages of exploring CBDCs, there is clearly

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