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R I D D L E S D O W N R E S I D E N T S ’ A S S O C I A T I O N
THE RIDDLESDOWN
RECORDER
Autumn 2019 ISSUE 208
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Contents:
Section Heading Page
The RRA Committee Members . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
RRA Editor’s Notes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5
The RRA Committee Reports
Chairman’s Report – Brian Longman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
Planning Report – Phil Thomas . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9
Environment Report – Phil Thomas. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14
Transport – John Rapp . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20
Membership – John Rapp. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 22
Your Contributions and Articles
Councillors’ Reports . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 23
19th Purley (Riddlesdown) Scout Group . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25
St Edmund’s Church - Upcoming events. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 26
Riddlesdown Collegiate Report . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28
Croydon Citizens Advice . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 33
Network Rail . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 34
Community Pages
Community Listings . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 37
Advertiser Index . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 42
Front Cover Photo: “Riddlesdown in Winter”,
by Rachel Tarrant local resident
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The Riddlesdown Recorder
The Riddlesdown Residents’ Association
committee members
Brian Longman Phil Thomas
Chairman and Riddlesdown Planning & Environmental;
Collegiate Liaison Website Editor
t: 8657 8374 t: 8668 3815
brian.longman@btinternet.com riddlesdownresidents@gmail.com
Linda Bevin John Rapp
Treasurer Membership, Road Stewards and
t: 8763 4195 Public Transport Concerns
t: 8660 9531
e: bevinlinda@gmail.com e: john.e.rapp@googlemail.com
Neil Tarrant Nick Tennant
Recorder Editor Secretary
t: 8668 4061 t: 8660 4208
e: EditorRRA@gmail.com e: nickannatennant@virginmedia.com
Frankie Wheeler John Placek
Footpaths Liaison Data Protection Officer
t: 8660 3886 t: 07971 401528
Janice Kedwards Bill Whitmarsh
t: 8668 2011 t: 8660 2178
Monica Pugh Berni Munt
t: 8660 6008 t: 07866 729337
berni.munt@virgin.net
Keith Powell Jan Powell
t: 8660 5380 t: 8660 5380
You may write to the Riddlesdown Residents’ Association at any of the following addresses:
66 Westfield Avenue, Sanderstead CR2 9JU or 37 Buttermere Gardens, Purley CR8 1EJ,
Please mark your correspondence with the committee member’s name, if applicable. Or you can e-mail any committee
member at RiddlesdownResidents@gmail.com or at any of the e-mail addresses listed above.
RRA notice boards are situated in Lower Barn Rd by Riddlesdown Pharmacy, on the Green opposite the shops in Lower
Barn Rd, on the Green in Lower Barn Rd near St Edmund’s Church, on the side wall of St Edmund’s Church and by K&K
Food & Wine in Mitchley Ave.
Website: www.riddlesdownresidents.org.uk Email RiddlesdownResidents@gmail.com
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Editor’s notes
Editor’s Notes
by Neil Tarrant
As I am writing, it is drawing close to Longman reminds us in his report, since the
Christmas. It is a good time to recall the busy 1930s, the RRA have been working hard to
year that we have had in the RRA, and look look after the local environment and built a
forward to forthcoming events. In addition to happy, inclusive community by organising
the work of keeping an eye on local planning events. There are lots of ways to become
matters, environmental issues and local involved, please feel free to contact a member
transport, the RRA have once more organised of the committee.
two well-supported litter picks. In early
I would like to thank all the contributors to this
December we look forward to welcoming
many of our local residents bringing their edition of the Recorder, and Roger Cherrill for
children, grandchildren, relatives and friends his work typesetting the text.
to the annual Christmas party. As Brian
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Chairman’s Report
by Brian Longman
Riddlesdown is one of the largest Resident’s more than 400 years. We estimate that around
Associations in Croydon and as such 40 individuals now own sections of Green Belt
experiences a steady stream of residents land around Riddlesdown.
moving away from the area and new ones The provision of local health services and in
moving in. Our membership secretary informs particular, Purley Hospital continues be one of
me that while we lose many old friends, we our top priorities. The RRA has been heavily
welcome up to 100 new members to the involved with both the hospitals initial
Association each year. For the benefit of our redevelopment and more recently the
many new members, I would like say a few proposed changes to the increasingly popular,
words about what the RRA does and what it GP Hub walk-in center, at the hospital.
stands for. Planning also continues to be high on our
The RRA was formed back in 1937 to agenda. In recent years we have experienced
promote the well-being of residents in a steady stream of contentious planning
Riddlesdown and today it still has nearly 90% applications to demolish single houses to build
of households in membership, one of the flats. The RRA fully recognises the need for
highest in Croydon. more housing and supports appropriate
High on our agenda then, and still today, is the development. However, we are increasingly
protection of the Green Belt that borders seeing applications where the size and density
Riddlesdown. At a public inquiry in 1974, the of the development is not appropriate for the
RRA successfully opposed an appeal to the size or location of the plot of land and takes
Secretary of State to build hundreds of new little or no account of the effect on close
houses on the Green Belt land of neighbours.
Riddlesdown. The lesson was clear, the Green Too often, we see applications for up to 9 flats
Belt cannot be taken for granted and if we to replace a single home, with little or no
value it, we must be prepared to fight for it. commitment to any improvements to the local
We have done so ever since. infrastructure. Primary school places, public
In 2006, large sections of the Green Belt transport, parking issues, local health services,
around Riddlesdown were once again under risk of flooding are simply not considered.
threat, with speculators buying and selling These and many more infrastructure issues
plots of land. The RRA worked with our local cannot be ignored and they are all key to a
councillors and council officers to ensure we planning process that supports any increase in
had the maximum protection in place on the housing density.
sections of the Green Belt land under threat. While writing this report, the RRA has just
This also included Mitchley Wood, which is received an application to demolish a single
classified as ancient woodland, meaning that house in Riddlesdown road and replace it with
the woodland has existed continuously for 21 flats.
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In addition to the areas highlighted, the RRA you are interested, my number is in this
works closely with Croydon Council and edition of the Recorder.
other organisations, in areas of public Moving on to the subject of our local shops in
transport, local environment, local Lower Barn Road. I am sure that we will all
infrastructure, health, schools, policing and our agree, that our local shops are essential to our
community. community and can be a lifeline to many
Back in 1937 there were twenty-one people people, especially the elderly. I have said it
on the committee, more than double the before: our local shops will only survive if we
number that we have today. In those early support them. The problem now is, while
years, the Association ran a number of social many residents want to support the local
activities and clubs as the population of shops they often find it difficult due to a lack of
Riddlesdown grew and developed. In 1956 the available parking bays. We have been talking
RRA held its first dance at St Edmund’s hall to the shops owners in an effort to find a
with 180 residents inside on the dance floor; solution, but it is not easy. The big problem,
many more had to be turned away at the door as we all know, is that Lower Barn Road has a
due to overcrowding. With a few more people very high level of commuter parking. Recently
on today’s committee with new ideas and many of the parking bays have been occupied
energy, we could do so much more. We still by Network Rail vans with engineers working
run the children Christmas party which is at the station, hopefully this situation has now
extremely popular. Until a couple of years ago been addressed. We will continue to engage
ran the extremely successful family Fun Day with the shop owners and local residents to
with a relaxing picnic on the downs. The Fun try and find a solution. If you have a view
Day attracted around a 1000 people to the please let us know via our RRA email account
Downs to enjoy the Jazz band, donkey rides, in this issue of the recorder.
punch and Judy, tractor rides and children’s In the last issue of the Recorder I mentioned
fun races, including the traditional egg and the annual Open Evening for prospective
spoon race. parents held at Riddlesdown Collegiate in
I was pleased on World Car Free Day in September 2018. The event attracted more
September, when two new families to the area visitors than in previous years and resulted in
organised a very successful car-free play street traffic chaos and gridlock in many of the local
for the afternoon, in Westfield Avenue. My roads around the school. The RRA listened to
grandchildren thought it was brilliant to cycle residents’ comments both positive and
safely down the middle of the road but the day negative and held meetings with Soumick Dey,
also had the added bonus of bringing the local Principal of Riddlesdown Collegiate and Simon
community together. Hoar our local councillor. This year’s Open
My guess would be that at least 200 new Evening for prospective parents at
families have moved into the area in the last Riddlesdown Collegiate was held on Thursday
three years and if only a few joined the 26th September 2019 and, at the time of
committee, we could organize many more writing this report, all feedback has been
community activities. Please give me a ring if positive. Just as many parents attended the
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event but there was nothing like the With that mind the Association has teamed up
congestion and gridlock of previous years. On with the City of London Corporation (Rangers
behalf of the RRA I would like to thank on the Downs) and St Edmund’s Care Group
Riddlesdown Collegiate for their positive to provide a new Active Ageing Health walk
attitude and the actions they took to reduce on Riddlesdown Common. The new walk is
the negative effect of the high traffic levels and aimed at those who have not walked for a
congestion experienced by local residents on while and might need a little support. The
this a busy night in the school year. short circular walks of 30-45 mins are taken at
Finally, in my last report I mentioned how your pace, and finish with tea, biscuits and
social prescribing enables GPs, nurses and toilets at the Ranger’s office close to the start
other primary care professionals to refer point.
people to a range of local, non-clinical services. The walk is currently on the last Wednesday of
These services can involve a variety of each month starting at 1.30 pm from
activities that are typically provided by Riddlesdown car park. Please check current
voluntary and community sector information before walking, as the date may
organisations. For example, for someone who be subject to change. Note: No walk in
might be lonely or socially isolated, the GP’s December 2019. Walks are advertised on RRA
social prescription might include activities such website, RRA Facebook page and RRA notices
as joining a lunch club, an exercise or walking boards, St Edmunds notice boards and the
group, befriending, volunteering, or something City of London Corporation web site - City of
as a simple as a drop-in facility for coffee and London
a chat. http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/citycommons
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Planning Matters
by Phil Thomas
It has once again been a fairly busy six months developments there. However, in this instance
on the planning front, with some contentious this will not change the Council’s decision as a
applications being submitted and in many cases Judicial Review on points of planning law have
approved, especially again for flats. We to undertaken within 6 weeks of a planning
summarise the latest applications and also the decision.
decisions on some others that were reported 116 Riddlesdown Road
in the last edition.
An application was submitted in late July for
141 Brancaster Lane the “Demolition of existing 4 bedroom, two-
As I reported last time, a full planning storey detached house. Erection of new 4
application was lodged in February for the storey building including basement and roof
“erection of a two-storey side/rear and a accommodation to provide 8 units including
conversion into 6 flats with associated parking associated access, and parking.”
(4 spaces).” This site is on the corner of There have been a number of public
Brancaster Lane and Lower Barn Rd. It is objections on this application by a private
intended to abut an existing semi-detached developer. The RRA again submitted a detailed
house and extend the semi-detached house written objection as well as the Ward
and replace it with flats. A previous outline Councillor and the MP. At the time of writing,
application was approved by the Council and a decision is still awaited.
the full planning application was granted by the
Planning Committee in early May. 48 Mitchley Hill
In May, an application was submitted by
The RRA along with a local resident did seek a
Aventier for the “Demolition of single-family
legal opinion from an expert planning barrister
dwelling and erection of one 3-storey block,
on the original outline planning decision by
containing 6 x 2-bedroom apartments, 2 x 4-
Croydon Council and whether it was
bedroom houses and 1 x 3-bedroom house
potentially unlawful. The legal opinion raised
with associated access, 10 parking spaces”
some interesting points applicable to the
lawfulness of this and many similar planning This was the second application for flats at this
applications. This has helped us better to location. A previous application was previously
understand our position in respect of some of withdrawn by the applicant. Despite 46
the common reasons for objection against objections, Croydon Council's Planning
similar planning applications, which continue committee on 1 August approved the
to be decided by the Council in the same application. As is usual, the voting was political
manner. We understand the local resident has by 6 votes (Labour) to 4 votes (Conservative).
taken matters further with the legal opinion to A side comment at the end of the 48 Mitchley
the Local Government Ombudsman, who Hill hearing, when Chair, Cllr Toni Letts, forgot
have now opened an active investigation into to turn off her microphone and said to Pete
the Council’s conduct, and we await Smith (Head of Planning) sitting beside her -
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"now the letters will start" after the This is a slightly unusual one, since approval
committee's decision was made! The 33-flat has previously been given for the house at the
scheme at Barrowsfield (by Sanderstead Rec) rear of No. 40 but not for a conversion into
was also approved 6 - 4 on the same night flats. The application at the rear of No. 38 is a
with identical political voting. It was a new application. The applicant is the same
disappointing night for Sanderstead. company for both sites. The RRA objected to
r/o 36 Riddlesdown Avenue (79k this application as we believe that the new
house rear of No. 38 is too close to the host
Riddlesdown Rd)
property (in respect of the 15 and 18 metres
In early April, an application was submitted for
separation and as refused for r/o No. 36) and
the erection of a 3-bed detached dwelling
in contravention of the Council’s new SPD2
house fronting Riddlesdown Road. The RRA
policy. In addition, there is no parking
only submitted neutral comments on this
whatsoever for No. 38 which we believe will
application, principally relating to issues on the
lead to more on-street parking on the narrow
narrow access road.
Riddlesdown Avenue.
So it was a bit surprising to learn the Council
In respect of the flats for No. 40, we believe it
refused the application in early August. The
is unreasonable to have 4 flats within this
reason for refusal was: “The proposed
dwelling, which will be cramped with a small
development would cause harm to 36
living/dining/kitchen open-plan area for
Riddlesdown Avenue and immediately
adjoining properties in terms of loss of possibly 4 occupants and is an over-
outlook, amenity and openness as the scheme development of the site. The accommodation
fails to retain a minimum 10m length of rear at 2nd-floor level (roof space) does not appear
garden or half of the existing rear garden space to be to an acceptable standard of
for the host property, contrary to the accommodation for occupiers.
provision of Policy DM10.4(e) and DM10.6 of At the time of writing, the Council have made
the Croydon Local Plan (2018)and the no decision.
Supplementary Planning Document: Suburban Purley Town Centre – 17-storey
Design Guide (2019).”
tower and associated
So can we expect another application soon for developments
a smaller house and further away from the host
Since reporting last time, the former of the
property? Or maybe this one goes to appeal.
Secretary of State, James Brokenshire, has had
r/o 38 (and 40) Riddlesdown to re-open the Public Inquiry. This was due to
Avenue (79j Riddlesdown Rd) a Consent Order being issued by the High
An application was submitted in early May for Court on 1 April 2019, quashing the decision
the “erection of a three-bedroom detached of the Secretary of State contained in his letter
house at the rear of No. 38 and 4 x flats at rear dated 3 December 2018 in which he refused
of No. 40, formation of vehicular access onto planning permission for the above proposal
Riddlesdown Road and provision of associated and rejected the Planning Inspector's
parking.” recommendation that planning permission
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should be granted. The Developer Thornsett say the reason for the doubling of the height of
took this case to the High Court. the mast is for the new 5G roll out for EE and
Some members of the Rule 6 Party (the seven 3 and better service locally.
local RAs) met with the Purley Baptist Church The RRA realise that phone masts are vital for
and the developer Thornsett in early June to our community and we usually do not object
discuss the situation. A very productive just for the sake of it. Some EE service is very
discussion was held and further information poor in parts of Riddlesdown because of the
was then returned to the Planning topography, so anything to improve mobile
Inspectorate by the applicant phone coverage would be good. However, we
(Thornsett/Nexus/Baptist Church), Croydon believe this mast may be too tall and unsightly,
Council and the Rule 6 Party (RAs). but we will wait to see what local residents
Information was then subsequently received think. And will it mean all other masts have to
from the Planning Inspectorate that the new be increased in height to take the 5G
Public Inquiry will be held from Monday 3 antennae?
December 2019 for at least 5 working days. Other mobile phone masts in the Riddlesdown
We understand the venue will again be the area are generally screened and hidden. These
Purley Baptist Church. The new Planning are located:
Inspector is to be, Mr Paul Jackson BArch
• in the grounds of Riddleah Court, Lower
RIBA.
Barn Rd, near to Riddlesdown Station - 02
The seven RAs will again attend the Public and Vodafone.
Inquiry as the Rule 6 party. More information • at the bottom of Dunmail Drive - 02,
will be posted on our website, in our monthly
Vodafone & EE.
E-Blast and on our Facebook page in due
• near the top of Dunmail Drive - close to
course.
Riddlesdown Collegiate – EE.
Proposed mobile phone mast in • in Mitchley Ave adjoining 95 Downs Court
Mitchley Ave adjoining 152 Rd - 3 & EE
Riddlesdown Rd Also at the end of August, a number of press
The RRA were made aware in late August that reports appeared stating that the Government
EE & 3 are proposing to replace the existing is considering allowing taller mobile phone
9.7 metre-high green phone mast in Mitchley masts which could be built without councils'
Ave near to and beside 95 Downs Court Rd permission across the country, under a
(close to the sharp bend on Mitchley proposed overhaul of planning rules in
Ave/Downs Court Rd). England. It is part of Government plans to
The proposal is to remove the existing speed up the roll-out of 5G networks and
shrouded mast and equipment at this location improve mobile coverage in rural areas.
and install a new 20 metre-high unshrouded Currently masts on public land must be no
mast in a different position and nearer to 152 more than 25 metres (82ft) high but ministers
Riddlesdown Road (close to the lamp post) but want to relax these rules. Masts of under 15
still situated on Mitchley Avenue. EE’s agents metres are permitted developments as long as
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the mobile phone companies give 56 days- For Riddlesdown, the suggestion is to build
notice to Local Authorities, who must respond between circa 350 and 750 new homes on the
in that time period. Currently masts over 15 sloping Green Belt farmland in Riddlesdown!
metres (and up to 25 metres high) require full This is the first time the RRA have heard about
planning permission. 5G masts also do not this.
have the range of coverage as 4G and more Following this Cabinet meeting, the Council
masts may be required for good coverage. So have advised a Borough-wide consultation to
higher masts could be the answer. give residents a say on how the council should
This application will need full planning manage Croydon’s growth over the next 20
permission. At the time of writing an years and beyond is set to be the first part of
application had been submitted on 8 October the review of the 2018 Local Plan. It will look
but then had to be invalidated by the Council at issues facing the borough, such as a need for
because the address was incorrect (after we up to 46,040 new homes, as determined by
pointed this out). A new application is using government formula, between now and
expected soon. Residents will then have a 2039, employment growth and how to
chance to lodge any objections. improve sustainability.
88 Riddlesdown Road The consultation for amendments to the
At the time of writing an application has been Croydon Local Plan 2018 starts on 8
submitted to the Council for the “demolition November 2019 and runs until 8 January 2020.
of the existing house and erection of a block of It includes the proposal to de-designate the
flats comprising of 21 units with parking, Green Belt farmland on Rectory Park/Mitchley
landscaping and other associated works.” The Hill and build up to 750 homes.
RRA have objected to this application. Amongst the questions the RRA intend to ask
the Council, include:
Threat to the Green Belt in
• Where are the new schools (pre-school,
Riddlesdown
primary & secondary) to be located?
At the time of going to print and accordingly to
Riddlesdown has no primary school and the
papers that went to Croydon Council’s
largest secondary school in the Borough but
Cabinet meeting on 21 October, the Council is
RRA residents can not always get a place for
considering the option of de-designating areas
their children at the Collegiate because
of Green Belt, that is, removing Green Belt
location is way down the criteria list!
status so the land can be developed for
housing. • Where are the additional doctors, dentists
and other healthcare provision to be
Three areas are being considered and these
located? Riddlesdown has one small doctor's
are;
surgery and no NHS dentist. CUH is over
Land at Borrowdale Drive/Mitchley subscribed.
Hill/Rectory Park • Where is the infrastructure for improved
Land at Gravel Hill (behind Monks Hill) rail, bus and tram services?
Land at Lodge Lane, near New Addington • Where is the provision for improved foul
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water and surface water drainage, to stop for Croydon Council to say that new homes
flooding? are urgently needed, but the improved
• Where is the improved road network infrastructure also needs to be put in place to
(major roads) for all the additional vehicles accommodate the existing and new
that will be using the road network; population. The RRA have been pointing this
including delivery vehicles to shops to feed out to Croydon Council in our objection
and clothe us and home deliveries via the letters for at least the last 10 years with
internet? virtually no response from the Council about
• Where is the supply of water to come from, these important issues! We will advise more
for all new and existing homes, from a very on our website, Facebook page and monthly
limited resource? E-Blast after the consultation opens on 8
November.
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Environmental issues
by Phil Thomas
A big thank you to all the beavers and cubs school. However we did find bags of green
from the 19th Purley Scouts, two Police waste and cardboard as well. It was great to
Officers from the Purley Oaks & Riddlesdown see the students so engaged and taking
SNT, a Council Neighbourhood Safety Officer, responsibility for the litter whilst taking pride
and all local residents and children who in their community.”
attended the RRA litter pick on 11 May. This On behalf of the RRA, well done to all pupils
was the sixth litter pick locally since the RRA who took part and to the Staff at the
started organising this in November 2016. Collegiate.
Despite the heavy rain/hail shower an hour
Riddlesdown has a new bench in
before the litter pick, about 30 people
attended. Fortunately the rain just about held Mitchley Ave!
off for the 90 minutes during the litter pick. At the request of Meryl, the Practice Manager
at the Doctors’ surgery in Mitchley Ave,
About 30 bags of rubbish, two tyres, traffic
Sanderstead Ward Cllr Yvette Hopley
cones, plastic and scrap metal were collected.
The RRA committee believe that with these arranged for a new bench to be erected by the
regular 6 month litter picks we are gradually Council and a replacement waste bin supplied.
getting on top of the litter/rubbish issue on The new bench is now between the bus stop
local Green Belt land. Another litter pick was and surgery on the grass verge and the new
held on 2 November. bin by the bus stop. On behalf of the RRA,
thank you to Meryl and also to the
Riddlesdown Collegiate - Litter Sanderstead Ward Councillors for arranging
and Recycling this to come out of their Ward Community
Tracey Bellamy, Croydon Council's Street budget!
Champion Co-ordinator arranged a litter pick
The new ‘South London Downs
with the Collegiate just before the end of
summer term. There have been a number of
National Nature Reserve (NNR)’
litter picks with the school children that Tracey in Riddlesdown
has arranged. The extract below is taken from the City of
Tracey reported: "The Riddlesdown Collegiate London’s July 2019 Newsletter:
carried out a litter pick today clearing over 25 “We are thrilled to announce that the
bags of litter from the farm field, the White Coulsdon Commons have been declared part
Path and the footpath leading to Grisedale of a new National Nature Reserve; the South
Gardens onto the farmland. The students as London Downs National Nature Reserve.
usual were great ambassadors for the school National Nature Reserves are recognised for
and really set about the task in hand. The having nationally important habitats or species
opinion of the students was that most of the and bring greater levels of protection to
litter would have come from the journey to conserve landscapes. The NNR will be the
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second biggest in London, joining Richmond developments!
Park and Ruislip Woods, and will bring No part of Riddlesdown has a surface water
together the 417 hectares of land managed by drainage system because we are situated on
City of London and London Borough of chalk. There are only soakaways. This
Croydon to create a landscape both rich in includes all the gullies/drains in the streets
nature and where people can engage with the which discharge into soakaways. Part H3 of
natural world.” the Building Regulations are specific that
This new site includes land owned by Croydon rainwater from roofs, patios etc. should
Council and the City of London at discharge into:
Riddlesdown, Kenley & Coulsdon Commons a) soakaway or infiltration system;
and Farthing Downs. A map of all the South b) a watercourse or finally,
London Downs National Nature Reserve can
be found on the RRA’s website. c) a sewer.
Following discussions between the RRA,
Surface Water Disposal from Croydon Council, and Thames Water, Lanes
Roofs and Patios and Driveways in Group acting on behalf of Thames Water have
Riddlesdown been carrying out further investigations in
The RRA have been made aware that there Brancaster Lane. From what we understand,
are drainage/sewer issues in Brancaster Lane it appears the foul water sewer is not large
and during heavy rainfall sewage is escaping enough to take all the surface water in heavy
from the foul water system and discharging rain.
sewage and flood water into some properties. The RRA have pointed out to the Council that
We are also aware of other flooding issues at both Approved Building Inspectors and the
certain places in Riddlesdown Council’s own Building Control Officers who
This is primarily caused by some houses oversee the building works should ensure and
discharging rainwater from their roofs and require that soakaways are constructed
patios, driveways etc. into the foul water locally. If they are not, then flooding of sewage
drains, rather than constructing soakaways and rainwater in some properties will become
into the chalk sub strata on properties. In more widespread locally. Unfortunately
some instances the foul water sewers in the Croydon Building Control Officers are barred
road are not large enough in diameter to take by statute from interfering with the decisions
all this excess rain and hence it backs up and of Approved Inspectors, some of whom are
floods in various locations. With all the new located many miles away and not based in
flatted developments taking place locally and Croydon!
with more rainwater being discharged into Other issues for surface water flooding are
foul water sewers this flooding of sewage hard surfaces (primarily for off-road parking)
could become the ‘norm’ here and situated between a wall forming the principal
elsewhere. The RRA keep reminding elevation of a house and highway that exceeds
Croydon Planners about this in our objection 5 square metres. If it exceeds 5 square metres
letters, especially on new flatted then the hard surface must be made of porous
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materials, or the rainwater directed to a lawn a soakaway. The rebate is not a huge amount
or drain naturally. These regulations apply - currently £26.40pa but it is better than
only to houses and not flats and require nothing.
planning approval. However, you will not The following information is taken from the
need planning permission if a new area, uses SES website:
permeable or porous materials - Sustainable
“Surface water is rainwater that falls on to
Drainage Systems (or known as SuDS), which
your property and runs via guttering and
allows water to drain through, such as gravel,
drainpipes into the public sewer, or water that
permeable concrete block paving or porous
enters the sewer from activities such as car
asphalt, or if the rainwater is directed to a
washing. Most customers are connected to a
lawn or earth border to drain naturally. If the
surface water sewer or combined sewer.
surface to be covered is more than 5 square
metres, planning permission will be needed “You can tell if you are connected to the
for laying traditional, impermeable materials public sewer by checking where your gutters
that do not control rainwater running off onto lead. If there is evidence of a sewer close by -
roads. Building Regulations will not generally for instance, a heavy duty manhole cover -
apply here. However, you will need to make then it is likely that surface water from your
sure that any alterations do not make access property drains directly to the sewer, and a
to the house, any less satisfactory than it was charge for this is incorporated in your fixed
before. So for example, changing levels to charges.
introduce steps where none existed before “If your property is not connected to the
would be a contravention of the regulations. surface water sewer - for example, if surface
If you are making a new access into the water drains into a watercourse, stream, river
garden across the Council's footway or soakaway - you may be eligible for a
(pavement), then you will need to obtain rebate. If you are receiving the rebate already,
permission from the Highways Department you will see ‘Surface water rebate’ printed on
and pay their costs for a dropped kerb. In your bill.
some instances, if the new dropped kerb is “Please write or email us to claim a surface
made onto a main principal road, then water rebate. Please note that claims must be
planning permission may be required. The submitted in writing and that the rebate
Council have also stipulated in 2015 that a cannot be backdated beyond the start of the
householder can no longer have more than one billing year - 1st April - in which it is
vehicular dropped kerbs to their property (see submitted.”
condition 3 on the application form). This is More information about this is available on the
to minimise the loss of kerbside parking! SES website:
Many residents may not be aware, but SES https://www.waterplc.com/pages/home/sewe
(our water supplier) do offer a rebate via rage-services/surface-water-drainage/
Thames Water (who are responsible for our Or telephone : 01737 772000.
sewage water disposal) if all surface water
from your gutters, drains etc., discharges into
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42 Riddlesdown Avenue – Council returned to the street and carried
Dropped kerb to front of the out further works to try and made the
property crossover safer for pedestrians and to try and
improve the gradients and crossfall. This
In early 2017, the RRA started to receive
involved re-instating the raised kerbstone
complaints from local residents about a
(taking out the new dropped kerb) and laying
proposed dropped kerb/crossover to the
a lump of bitmac into the street for about
front of 42 Riddlesdown Avenue, which the 500mm from the kerbstone. We now
Council Highway’s Department intended to consider this to be a hazard to cyclists
construct to this property. The front garden especially on a cold wet winter night. It also
to this property was raised about 900mm interferes with the water flow in the gutter
above the carriageway and fronts a steep as there is a road gully immediately beside the
grass bank from the raised footway to the lump of bitmac.
lower carriageway. The footway was
The RRA also involved Disability Croydon
previously level.
who give advice about the needs and
This crossover was constructed in October requirement of the disabled in Croydon. One
2017 despite the RRA pointing out to the of their visits was after the first set of works
Highways Department before construction were carried out and the second visit after
that the crossover/footway should be made the subsequent “repairs”! Their two reports
to acceptable standards for the disabled, in (sent to the Council) were scathing about the
particular, in relation to falls and crossfall, and works, noting that the Council had
to comply with current highways standards undertaken them without any due
and the Equalities Act 2010 (formerly the consideration for disabled, blind and visually
Disability Discrimination Act 1995). impaired pedestrians.
As a result of the approval and construction The RRA also believe very little consideration
of this crossover by the Highways has been given by the Council to pedestrian
Department, the Planning Department safety on the formation of this
subsequently approved a planning application crossover/footway. In particular for other
for the formation of an off-street parking area elderly and parents with buggies. The
to front the house with associated retaining footway is especially dangerous for these
walls and landscaping. The Planning users (as well as the able members of the
Department relied on the advice from the public), for slipping sideways especially in
Highway Officers rather than use their own snow, ice, and heavy frosts.
professional judgement that it was perhaps As this was a challenging design scheme,
not suitable. This planning decision was made especially for the disabled, we have asked
after the Highways Department had why the Highways Department did not
constructed the crossover! consult with organisations such as Disability
In late 2018, following the RRA’s comments Croydon at the inception.
and more complaints from residents, the In the RRA’s view, the crossfall on the footway
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which the Council created and then carried Website Mailing list, the Website
out amended works, still exceeds 3% on the Message Board and Facebook
crossfall, as set out in guidelines from TfL and We have recently had technical issues with the
Footway and Cycle Design from Highways server supplying the website Yabb message
England. Two felled trees on the grass board (a third party server). The message
bank/highway verge have also not been board is rarely used by residents to view and
replaced in other nearby locations. post messages, so we have removed this
We also believe that the Council should facility from the website.
provide a suitable dropped kerb at the However, the RRA Facebook page continues
western end of Riddlesdown Avenue (even to go from strength to strength and a lot of
number side) at the junction to Riddlesdown useful information is posted and shared on
Rd and/or across Riddlesdown Avenue to there. If you are on Facebook why not give us
allow pedestrians/disabled in wheelchairs to a “like” or “follow” us! If you are not on
cross these two streets safely. Currently they Facebook, we have now set up a monthly E-
are unable to leave the footway safely, or gain Blast newsletter which will be sent to
access to it without a dropped pedestrian residents by e-mail, who register with us. The
kerb in place. E-Blast may be sent out more often if
On behalf of residents, the RRA have now important information needs to be made
submitted a formal complaint to Croydon available to residents, for example, concerning
Council about the actions of the Planning some planning applications. You will need to
Department and the Highways Department. subscribe to receive the E-Blasts and the sign
We will update more in due course. up is on our website:
riddlesdownresidents.org.uk. Scroll down the
home page and registration is on the bottom
left side of the page where is says: “subscribe
to our mailing list”.
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www.sanderstead-parish.org.ukThe Riddlesdown Recorder transport
Transport
by John Rapp
I will begin with the train network. The While it could be said that many residents are
Passenger Benefit Fund (PBF) closed to aware of the need to be in the correct
suggestions on the 31st July, and Govia carriage when returning home from London,
Thameslink Railway. It is overseen by three there have been cases of people not being
Members of Parliament to ensure that made aware of this need and being unable to
improvements are as local as possible, is get off at Riddlesdown – making the railway
assessing the suggestions received. less attractive for them. When going to
The PBF exists because money that London, currently only eighteen (rather than
Thameslink (part of GTR) set aside to twenty-four) doorways of a twelve coach
compensate passengers for the disruption train are being used. Following extension,
they endured in May 2018 was not all people will be able to board quicker at
claimed. The available fifteen million pounds Riddlesdown giving faster journey times for
was not allocated evenly, but in relation to all passengers on the line. With both
how badly each station's passengers were platforms extended to accommodate twelve
considered to have suffered. To give some coach trains Riddlesdown Station will be
figures: allocations were £30,000.00 for more attractive to our residents.
Kenley, £50,000.00 for West Croydon, and Station facilities not always available when
£80,000.00 for Riddlesdown. As West trains are running. The ticket office operates
Croydon is an Overground Station, money is Schedule 17 opening (which in practice
available to be spent at other locations and means being open in the morning from
can be used with unused money to give Monday to Saturday). When it is not open,
greater benefit at stations with greater scope the waiting room and toilets are also locked
for improvement. out of use. We hear many announcements
Bearing in mind that the money is not to be about carrying water, and the hand basin taps
used to do work that GTR would be required dispense drinking water. Since the station
to do anyway, for Riddlesdown your opened technology has developed, and we
Committee has put forward the following have asked for Riddlesdown to be used as a
suggestions. prototype to benefit similar stations, using
CCTV, movement detectors (as used by the
Increase of platform lengths. Many of the
trains passing through Riddlesdown are intruder alarms in many of our homes),
composed of twelve carriages, but the electric release of the waiting room door
present platform can only accommodate lock, possibly aided by the assisted travel
nine-carriage trains. This means that in order button on the help point.
to alight from the train it is necessary to Seating and shelter. We have suggested the
ensure that one is in the correct carriage. installation of further sheltered seating to help
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passengers on wet days. This will benefit us Pampisford Road (called Purley Hospital)
and other travellers on the line from East helps 405 passengers to reach Purley
Grinstead and Uckfield. Hospital. Getting off a 412 at that stop means
Going onto the buses, there has been a finding the rear of the Purley Hospital (fairly
Croydon Town Centre Bus Changes well disguised) and walking through to the
Consultation that ended in January. Due to Brighton Road.
the volume of comment it took until almost Croydon University Hospital - and East
the end of July for the confirmed post- Croydon. I expect that many of us will be
consultation changes to be announced. Many using the Coombe Road stop where all buses
residents are not happy that following the stop for our same stop changes. The Swan
reduction of the 412 service reduction from and Sugarloaf Stop, while not served by the
1 September 2018. Further changes which 119, is a bus driver changeover point – where
take effect from 2 November mean that the help is likely to be more available. On the way
412 will only be going to Katharine Street back the Aberdeen Road stop is also
rather than the West Croydon Bus Station. universal. A change at one of these stops will
I have read the report and noted the many also help in getting to St George's Hospital
comments on the 412 route, (which seem to (the 264 will be curtailled to turn at West
be more than for any other route) who say Croydon Bus Station)
that this service should continue to serve St George's Hospital. While the 264
West Croydon, or alternatively East Croydon terminates at St George's, we can also use the
Station. Transport for London have been told 127 (which starts from Purley) to reach
that making bus services less attractive goes Tooting Broadway (bus to St George’s about
against the Mayor's Transport Strategy of every four minutes. While the routes differ,
getting more people to use public transport). the 127 and 264 journey times are about 55
I have told TfL that, from November, their minutes.
Journey planner will need to give details ofMany of you will know that I am fond of the
new journey opportunities. In the context ofmaxim: “use it or lose it.” I think we are now
the TfL Journey Planner, I have been quicklymoving towards Use it, and improve /
looking at some typical journeys. encourage it. I leave you to share thoughts
Purley Hospital. The 412 used to continue when needed with our transport providers.
from the Purley Tesco stop, via the London
Road shops and Purley Hospital before
running out of service via the Purley Oaks
Recycling Centre to reach the Bus Stand
opposite Purley Hospital. It now runs from
the Purley Tesco Stop via Pampisford Road
and Christchurch Road to the bus stand
serving Purley Hospital. Sadly, the stop in
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Membership
by John Rapp
With around 1,450 front doors in One part of the celebration that will stay with
Riddlesdown, a figure that is likely to grow many people was that the Chapel only had
1,500 early in the next decade, it is hard for two spare seats.
any of us to know all our fellow residents. Having written about Hazel, my thoughts
Sometimes, our interactions with our fellow turned to Gwen another of our local
residents can be fleeting. One example of this centenarians featured recently in the
was my visiting Hazel Kiernan with my wife Recorder. Her neighbour gave me a lot of
Margaret (who had known her for many news. Sadly, Gwen also died in August, aged
years), to obtain material for the article she
101. Like Hazel, she lived life to the full and I
wrote for our last magazine celebrating
learned that she had attended her new
Hazel's 100th birthday on the 18th May 2019.
neighbour's housewarming. During the party
Sadly, I have to report that Margaret and I she told of her experiences to a captivated
attended her funeral on 19th August. We
audience and I know that her new neighbours
learned that Hazel – who had been a
– although they know her only briefly – will
Committee Member of RRA – had been
maintaining contact with her birth family, the fondly remember how she helped to make
families of her two husbands, and her friends, their house a home.
neighbours and former voluntary sector I leave you to successfully interact with each
colleagues, who she developed into friends. other, building friendships as you go.
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Your Contributions & Articles
Thank you to all the RRA Committee for their contributions – we now have your
contributions, information, articles, letters and photographs on the following pages.
Councillor’s Report current administration has built zero council
Councillor Simon Hoar homes and instead designated their
developments, like those been built on green
I have written here before about the impact
space on Montpelier Road, for private sale.
of planning applications within Riddlesdown
and the broader area, but the instances of The issue of planning therefore continues to
established detached houses being knocked be a problem for us and is potentially about to
down in favour of blocks of flats continues to be stepped up. There is a plan, for instance, at
grow. In my opinion, this shows that Croydon 88 Riddlesdown Road to replace the existing
Council and its Planning Committee are house with a block of 21 flats (though still no
unwilling to defend the existing communities affordable housing) that fills the site and does
and its residents in the same way as our not even attempt to blend in with surrounding
neighbouring Boroughs do for their residents. houses. This would be a steep change in local
planning in the way that Pampisford Road
Croydon’s Planning Committee has a record
suffered in the 1990s.
of approving over 90% of the applications that
come before it, with the Committee Chair The Labour-run Council is also about to start
having a super referral power to bring any a consultation in November on revisions to
application to committee that they their local plan that include three options. The
(presumably) think is likely to be rejected by first would see 40% of the projected 46,000
officers at delegated level. This has resulted in homes they say are needed over the next 20
developers and land speculators seeing years built on windfall sites – that is, on sites
Croydon as a free-for-all planning landscape where an existing property such as 88
guaranteed to give them permission and Riddlesdown Road has been demolished – and
therefore boost their profits. require Purley to have up to 9,390 new homes
with another 2,070 for Sanderstead.
The Council justify this situation by saying
there is a housing crisis with thousands of The second option would see windfall sites
people on the housing waiting list hoping for a accommodate ‘only’ 25% of new homes with
home. This is true, to an extent, but the Purley Way becoming a regeneration zone to
reason that all the blocks of flats being built on cover the rest. In Purley this means 7,060 and
places like Riddlesdown Road are of nine units in Sanderstead 1,450 new homes. The third
is to avoid providing affordable housing. Flats option has the same figures as option two, but
costing £400-500,000 are unlikely to do much would also see some green field land de-
to help those in need of an affordable home. designated to allow for house building. One of
Presumably the Council is building through these sites is the field next to Mitchley Hill and
their Brick by Brick development company? Borrowdale Drive where up to 780 homes
Not a bit of it. Since taking control in 2014, the could be developed.
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So, there it is, the Council’s grand plan. I hold residents. The Panel is independently chaired
serious concerns that it will result in much of by Dame Moira Gibb and, whilst cross-party
Croydon being concreted over, and that the in its membership, has more Labour members
Council are not doing enough to push back on than Conservative.
numbers, or to explore options such as Initial research, conducted by the Centre for
focusing on brown field development and Public Scrutiny, showed that Council Members
Croydon town centre development. It seems, (ward councillors) did not find many aspects
that there is just an expectation that our area of the Council’s governance to be positive and
will either take 12,000 new homes or just that there was a strong desire from
8,500 and loses part of the green belt. backbenchers to contribute more – after all,
Moreover, I am concerned that the figure of councillors cannot represent their wards or
46,000 homes figure is not even accurate, just the wider Borough if they are not part of the
what Croydon have accepted from the Mayor decision-making process. There was also a
of London . The Planning Inspector has issued desire to ensure that the structure allowed
a review of the London Plan recently and the residents’ voices to be heard.
results for Croydon would see the projected This autumn, residents were consulted on
10-year housing numbers drop from 29,490 what they think of the current way of working
to 20,790. This is still a significant number, but – thank you to Riddlesdown Residents
substantially lower than before. Are the Association for sharing the consultation details
Council taking heed of this change? No, they with local residents.
plan to press on with allowing for as much
development as possible regardless of The Panel has spent a lot of time considering
Government advice. different governance models – from the
Strong Leader model that we have now to full
It seems that after 18 months as a Purley Oaks
committee-based systems. We had an
and Riddlesdown ward councillor, my only
interesting visit to Sutton Council to explore
successes in defeating a planning application
their hybrid committee system that involves
for a block of flats replacing a house being
cabinet members chairing decision-making
through the planning officers delegated
committees. Councillors from both elected
powers is unlikely to be changed any time
political parties in Sutton seemed to like this
soon.
model and appeared to be able to work
together well. It is unclear whether this was a
Councillor’s Report sign of a good governance model or simply
Councillor Helen Redfern that there is a positive working culture within
Sutton Council.
I would like to share with residents the work
of the Governance Review Panel, which I was And perhaps that’s the elephant in the room.
invited to join in October 2018. The Panel was Much of what Members want to achieve in
tasked with looking at how Croydon is Croydon could be achieved already without
governed and to make recommendations on expensive changes in the governance structure
options for improvements to better serve . The Council Constitution permits the
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creation of neighbourhood partnerships, area badge.
forums, area committees, focus groups and We held our second Family Fun Day on
service or user-based consultative groups as Saturday 18th May. It was a great success
part of its community leadership role. Existing raising nearly £900. This time we had the
committees could give more weight to addition of a dog show which was very well
comments made by councillors outside of the received. The date for the next Family Fun
Administration’s leadership - and committees Day is Saturday 5th May 2020. We hope to get
and meetings could focus on finding the right bigger and better every year.
solutions for the residents of Croydon, and
We had our big group camp this year at
not what suits a small group of people. The
Downe Adventure Scout Camp from 25th to
greatest problem in Croydon’s governance
28th May. 44 children, young leaders and
may be the culture in which decision-making
adults attended and lots of fun was had by all.
takes place. In my opinion, it often feels that
Activities they took part in throughout the
under the present-system, pre-determined
weekend included crate stacking, rifle
decisions are being implemented without
shooting and grass sledging. The children
sufficient consultation. Even the Governance
learnt so many new skills over the weekend,
Review Panel meetings themselves have not
for many it was their first time away from
always demonstrated a positive working
home and for too many their first time
culture in action.
washing up! We are looking forward to our big
Initially tasked to report back to Full Council in camp next May 2020 which is a District-wide
April 2019, with a budget of £25k, the Panel is camp which is where many of us leaders
now expected to report back in January 2020 attended our first ever camp back in 2012. We
with the budget increasing to £100k. Despite have come such a long way since then.
being a member of the Panel I have not been
On the 30th May our Assistant Beaver Leader,
advised on how this additional money is being
Ellen, was lucky enough to be picked to help at
spent. However, it is certainly time for us to
the Queen’s garden party. This was a real
reach some decisions on how the Council best
privilege and one Ellen will not forget. Not
serves residents in all parts of the Borough.
only did she represent Scouting in such a great
way but also the 19th Purley.
19th Purley (Riddlesdown) Scout On Saturday 8th June the 19th Purley took
Group part in the annual Gruffy 5-a-side football
Since our last report in Spring 2019, on tournament against other Cub packs in the
Saturday 11th May and 2nd November we area. After 9 years of getting so close this year
joined Riddlesdown Residents Association for we were victorious, not only coming first but
their litter pick. This is always an event that also second! It was great to be able to sit back
the children enjoy, using the pickers and and enjoy the final knowing that we were
sometimes collecting some weird and going to win either way. We are so proud of
wonderful items of rubbish! This all goes the team work and commitment of the
towards their community challenge award children that took part.
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