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     Oral History
     with Margaret Butler
     Advocate for Workers’ Rights and Jobs with Justice

     OREGON VOICES

     by Laurie Mercier, with Margaret Butler

     DURING THE LATE 1980s, Marga-               real wages plummeted in relation
     ret Butler and a handful of labor activ-    to purchasing power, and the profits
     ists held a series of informal meetings     from productivity steadily shifted to
     to discuss how they might build an          the top 1 percent, widening income
                                                                                             MARGARET BUTLER stands between Anne Sweet (left) and Rachel Noble (right) at the
     action-based workers’ rights move-          inequality. Since the 1930 s, union
                                                                                             Summer Institute for Union Women (SIUW) in 1994. University labor education programs
     ment in Portland, Oregon. Frustrated        power had been relatively success-          affiliated with the United Association for Labor Education (UALE) started SIUW in 1980.
     by the inability of traditional unions to   ful in achieving gains for White male       Since the late 1990s, SIUW has been hosted by UALE institutions in the West as well as
     effectively challenge rising threats to     workers, but growing conservative           by the British Columbia Federation of Labour.
     worker power, they were attracted to        political power weakened labor
     new labor-community alliances, includ-      laws and enforcement, automation
     ing Jobs with Justice (JwJ). In 1987, ten   reduced the number of union jobs,
     national unions had come together to        global trade agreements and capital         omy, and diversify labor leadership.             The Service Employees Interna-
     form Jobs with Justice, which labor         flight moved jobs to where cheaper          Witnessing setbacks within her own           tional Union (SEIU) Justice for Janitors
     studies scholar Andy Banks describes        labor was available, and union com-         union, the Communications Workers            campaign, which launched in 1986
     as “the labor movement’s most ambi-         placency all contributed to decreases       of America (CWA), Butler recognized          and enjoyed a major success in Los
     tious and comprehensive attempt at          in union power. 3 Union membership          that bolder methods of organizing            Angeles by the end of the decade,
     community unionism.” 1 Community            fell from a peak of almost 35 percent       were needed. She gravitated to what          provided new models of organizing
     unionism, which sought to engage            of nonagricultural employment in 1953       is today called “social justice union-       that included civil disobedience
     workers beyond the workplace with           to 20 percent in 1983, and industries       ism,” which combined trade union             and public pressure on vulnerable
     broader labor, civic, and social con-       that had a high concentration of union      goals of mobilizing rank-and-file            targets — in this case, commercial
     cerns to advance the needs of all work-     members before the 1980s, such as           workers with community goals for             landlords who outsourced janitorial
     ing families, had been practiced by         transportation and manufacturing,           the “common good.”5 Steeped in civil         work to cleaning companies — and
     some unions in earlier decades.2 But        suffered dramatic declines.4                rights and other social movements of         empowered Latina low-wage work-
     by the 1980s, unions were struggling to          Margaret Butler was part of a gen-     the 1960s and 1970s, the “New Labor          ers. 7 In 1995 , AFL-CIO (American
     deliver gains and address a changing        eration of labor activists who devel-       Movement” of the 1980s and 1990s             Federation of Labor–Congress of
     economic, political, and legal context.     oped innovative strategies to confront      sought to expand labor and social            Industrial Organization) members
          The challenges were many.              this new environment, embrace new           rights to non-unionized and low-wage         chose the “New Voice” electoral slate
     Despite rising worker productivity,         workers in the growing service econ-        workers and workers of color.6               to lead the nation’s labor movement,

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director in 2013, Butler helped shape           Today, Portland JwJ describes
                                                                                        what remains an important labor-com-        itself as a “labor-community organiz-
                                                                                        munity coalition in Portland.               ing hub” and includes over one hun-
                                                                                             Butler’s oral history interview is     dred labor, faith, community, and stu-
                                                                                        significant in explaining the creation      dent organizations that come together
                                                                                        and evolution of a strong local chap-       to support workers’ rights. Like other
                                                                                        ter of JwJ that reflected new labor         social justice and labor groups in the
                                                                                        initiatives during the late twentieth       twenty-first century, JwJ has become
                                                                                        and early twenty-first centuries. The       more inclusive of the variety of work-
                                                                                        organization experimented with new          ers who live in the region, especially
                                                                                        tactics and expanded its reach to           those most marginalized by the econ-
                                                                                        affect local and state government           omy, including Black, Indigenous, and
                                                                                        policies and participate in actions that    People of Color (BIPOC) and Lesbian,
                                                                                        supported workers. What happened in         Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, and
     JOBS WITH JUSTICE (JwJ) MARCHERS protest Austin CableVision’s unfair labor
     practices, likely at a February 1992 JwJ annual conference.
                                                                                        Portland helps explain the persistence      Queer (LGBTQ) people, immigrants,
                                                                                        of local and national coalitions; at        and women, and it has diversified its
                                                                                        its peak, JwJ counted over forty-five       leadership structure. It still considers
                                                                                        chapters across the country. The            as its basic building block “a pledge
     including President John Sweeney,        in unions with a majority female mem-     Portland chapter played a pivotal           from individuals to turn out to support
     who articulated plans for revitaliz-     bership (such as Butler’s CWA), only 12   role by initiating projects that other      other people’s struggles at least five
     ing and diversifying unions. At age      percent of officer and executive board    coalitions adopted, shaping strategies      times a year.”15 Current Portland JwJ
     forty-six, Richard Trumka became the     positions were held by women by           at the national level, and influencing      executive director Jill Pham, who
     youngest person ever to serve as the     2000.11 Nevertheless, Butler and some     the city’s and region’s economic and        describes herself as “a queer woman
     federation’s Secretary Treasurer, and    other women advanced within their         social justice activism from the late       of color” and a “child of refugees,”
     Linda Chavez-Thompson, as execu-         locals and joined national organizing     1980s to the present.                       commented on the value of JwJ’s
     tive vice-president, became the first    teams.12 Butler believed that workers          Until now, little has been written     ability to blend traditional and newer
     woman of color to hold a high-ranking    held the power to change society for      about JwJ.13 Archival records and oral      labor issues: “What keeps me around
     position in the organization.8           the better and was enthusiastic about     history collections about the orga-         is the tenacity of the organization.
         While the “union advantage,”         the organizing potential of JwJ, which    nization are few, and historians are        We don’t stray from the more spicier
     which shrinks the pay gap between        linked unions and community groups        only beginning to examine this recent       topics within community organizing,
     male and female workers, encour-         through their shared goals. With          history. Having studied history in col-     like the police accountability cam-
     aged women’s growing participation       support from CWA, she became an           lege and worked in a library, Butler        paign . . . that I value the most about
     in unions, women held few union lead-    active organizer of the Portland JwJ      knew the value of the JwJ records and       our coalition work. Also, that we con-
     ership roles during the 1990s.9 Faced    coalition, which she and others for-      photographs and initiated their pres-       tinue to show up for workers time and
     with the “double day,” or the extra      mally organized in April 1991, joining    ervation and donation, on behalf of         time again.”16
     shift that most women workers had        several other cities with established     JwJ, to the Oregon Historical Society           Recent worker actions on the
     to put in with their unpaid domestic     chapters. After sixteen years as a com-   (OHS) in 2018. In developing an exhi-       heels of the COVID- 19 pandemic
     labors at home, few women had time       mitted rank-and-file activist and paid    bition on the history of Portland JwJ,      signal to many labor observers and
     available to volunteer for union work.   labor organizer for CWA, in April 1996,   on display at OHS from February 11          media pundits that another “new
     White men who dominated unions,          Butler became the first paid organizer,   through May 15, 2022, Butler provided       labor movement” is brewing, sug-
     furthermore, rarely invited women to     lead staff person, and later director     key advice and solicited donations          gesting a more optimistic future than
     climb the ranks of leadership.10 Even    of Portland JwJ. Until she retired as     and materials.14                            what Butler and labor activists faced

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during the late 1980s. Many business        Selections from the interview are pre-
     leaders bemoan or express surprise          sented here in block quotes or uncited
     at the audacity of workers who quit         quotes within the text, and ellipses
     their jobs, strike, or attempt to orga-     indicate portions that have been cut or
     nize key workplaces such as Amazon          rearranged for space and narrative flow.
     and Starbucks. Locally, the success         I summarize Butler’s background and
     of Burgerville workers to unionize —        then turn to quotes from her oral history
     represented by the Industrial Workers       that describe her work organizing and
     of the World (IWW), the iconic militant     leading the Portland JwJ coalition.
     union of Pacific Northwest loggers in
     the early twentieth century and now         BUTLER’S PASSION for workers’
     popular among younger workers —             rights emerged in the context of
     has set a new standard as the first to      her Portland upbringing and 1970s
     win a contract for low-wage fast-food       activism. Born in 1957 to Ken Butler
     workers. Recent polls indicate that         and Rusty Butler, both White and
     almost 70 percent of Americans and          both librarians with liberal politics,
     almost 80 percent of workers ages           she grew up in a lower-middle-class
     18 to 34 have a positive opinion of         neighborhood in Southeast Portland.
     unions.17 The decades-long efforts of       At age four, her twin sister became
     JwJ to build community coalitions, to       ill, her father struggled with depres-
     think globally and act locally, and to      sion, and her mother became ill
     support low-wage workers still repre-       after her younger sister was born.
     sent successful strategies to build a       Butler remembered: “That’s the time
     “new” labor movement.                       I became the one who didn’t need
         Butler’s reminiscences about her        anything and the one who took care
     decades of work on behalf of workers’       of other people and thought of other
     rights are documented in a series of        people.” Her mother instilled in her
     interviews conducted during summer          the importance of racial justice as she
     2018, created in collaboration with         grew up in a segregated city known
     interviewer Madeline Bisgyer for the        for its racism, and her mother mod-
     Oregon Labor Oral History Program           eled resisting sexism in the Episcopal
     (OLOHP). The interviews provide an          Church by insisting that girls could
     important examination of the tremen-        become acolytes. By the time Butler
     dous challenges facing workers and          entered Lewis & Clark College in
     their unions in the late twentieth and      Portland, she knew that she wanted
     early twenty-first centuries and the        to do something “useful and good.”
     strategically creative ways in which they   Like many cities and campuses in the
     responded.18 Butler’s more extensive        1970 s, Portland and Lewis & Clark
     OLOHP life-history interview, deposited     were brimming with new radical ideas
     with OHS, provides more details about       and feminist and social justice groups      IN SPRING 1982, Margaret Butler and Doug Urner, a union electrician, attend a protest
     her experiences and insights from a         that attracted Butler, who decided to       calling out Georgia Pacific, Weyerhauser, and others for concession bargaining and plant
     forty-year career as a labor activist.      become a history major.                     closings.

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In 1977, Butler took a year off from    and they helped educate her about
     college and worked as a clerk at the        politics more broadly. She became
     Multnomah County Central Library,           active in the Portland Tenants Union
     which raised her consciousness about        and the Oregon Coalition Against
     worker injustices and the power of          the Draft. Admitting that, as “a shy
     collective action. She joined a staff       person,” she did not believe she con-
     organizing committee, which decided         tributed much to these groups, she
     to form an independent union to             nonetheless became more committed
     address issues of low pay, lack of          to principles of group action. And, like
     respect, and loss of long-held perks.       many student activists at the time,
     According to Butler, the workers            she became less interested in formal
     won their election in April 1978 and        classes and earning “A” grades than
     formed the Multnomah County Library         in working for urgent local causes.
     Union.19 She recalled their enthusi-             After graduating from college in
     asm: “It was great — two-thirds of the      1980, Butler sought a job where she
     staff would show up to meetings.”           could work with a larger union. She
     This participatory ethos and camara-        was hired as a switchboard operator for
     derie influenced her commitment to          Pacific Northwest Bell and immediately      MARGARET BUTLER and Rich Peppers stand among protesters at the August 1991
     worker-centered unionism and would          became involved in CWA. Although it         Solidarity Day March in Washington, D.C.
     remain with her as a model for work-        felt “scary,” she discovered a peer-coun-
     place organizing.                           seling (also known as co-counseling)
         That same year, Butler spent a          network, which helped her become
     semester abroad in Kenya, which also        more confident about engaging with          As a result of these experiences, she          because so many women worked in
     influenced her desire to focus her life     and speaking in front of others.21 But-     remembered: “I really wanted my life           communications. At the same time,
     on social justice. Her experiences          ler attended her first co-counseling        to be about ending that, making sure           however, telecommunications and
     there helped her understand how             class at age twenty-three and found         nobody had to be oppressed at work.            other industries were increasingly
     policies driven by U.S.-led global          the practice helped her to stand up to      That’s what I was thinking about that first    replacing workers with technology.
     institutions extracted wealth from          management, become a shop stew-             year at the phone company.”                    Impressed with Butler’s leadership and
     and impoverished former colonized           ard, and do anti-racism work at the             Butler worked as an operator for           organizing skills, Larry Cohen, national
     nations in the global South. After          phone company. That training in co-         ten years and became increasingly              organizing director of CWA (and later
     returning to Portland in February 1979,     counseling “has been and still is very      active in the union. She served as             president), asked her to join national
     she wanted to “help build African           useful to me,” she reflected, noting that   organizing committee chair, a chief            staff to help organize union campaigns
     socialism,” but more local issues soon      she does not “believe we’ll be able to      steward, and an area vice-president.           in a fourteen-state district, including
     drew her attention. She resumed her         have the society we want unless people      In 1989, she led the member mobiliza-          Washington, Oregon, North Dakota,
     studies at Lewis & Clark, returned to       work [through their fears].” Although she   tion effort to prepare for bargaining a        and Utah. After she finished her local’s
     the library in a flexible, part-time job    liked working with people in her new        contract. In 1990, she ran for and was         contract campaign in fall 1992, Butler
     as switchboard operator, and became         job and in the union, the work was hard.    elected CWA Local 7901 Executive Vice          continued her leave from the phone
     active again with the library staff asso-   As an operator, “you had to average         President, a full-time, paid position          company to become a full-time CWA
     ciation, helping build its independent      about 19 seconds a call in Directory        overseeing the shop steward structure          organizer.23
     union and gain a contract.20 Many of        Assistance. It was very boring and had      and grievance process. Unlike many                 Butler considered Cohen one
     her library union colleagues were           conflicting job demands — give excel-       unions at the time, CWA made space             of her primary mentors, who had “a
     involved in other social movements,         lent service and do it very quickly.”22     for and supported women officers               vision of a lot of things . . . the CWA

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triangle was mobilization on one side         unions, while speakers from labor,             organizing committee tried to get the          We wanted people to represent organi-
     [one-on-one organizing inside the             community, and faith groups called for         AFL to support a] volunteer and retiree        zations as much as possible, but we just
                                                                                                  organizer training project. . . . [But some    invited everybody who was organizing
     union], organizing new workers on             livable wages, solidarity among work-
                                                                                                  unions] were very suspicious about             or wanted to organize or wanted to do
     the other, and political and community        ers, the end to corporate conspiracies         how their money would be spent and             something real in the labor movement to
     action through Jobs with Justice coa-         to hold down wages, and jobs with              whether their members would get any            come. And we had about fifteen people
     litions was on the third side.”24 In the      justice.28 Butler remembered that over         benefit from it. It was very interesting.      representing different organizations,
     mid-1980s, Cohen reminded political           a thousand people participated in the          So our frustration with that process led       and then when situations came up, we
     leaders concerned about loss of jobs                                                         us to form the Jobs with Justice chapter       turned people out for them, and that’s
                                                   rally and about three hundred signed
                                                                                                  as well.                                       mostly what we were doing. In the earli-
     due to capital flight, automation, and        pledge cards. But she saw that a lot of                                                       est days, the first actions we did were a
     deindustrialization that the country          money had been spent on one rally,             Butler and the AFL-CIO organizing              Jobs with Justice healthcare action day
     needed not only jobs but “jobs with           and “then nobody did anything with             committee activists discussed how              in — I think it was [June] ’91 — and then
     justice,” and, as he recalled, “the name      the pledge cards.” She described how           they might form a coalition that would         we had one in ’92 a year later. . . . There
     stuck.”25 The AFL-CIO joined CWA and                                                                                                        was a national ambulance drive, where
                                                   the event, and lack of follow up by the        serve as a rapid-action network to
                                                                                                                                                 they collected all these ballots support-
     others in calling for the formation of a      state labor federation, helped catalyze        mobilize workers. She convinced                ing single payer [universal healthcare]
     national network of local coalitions to       the formation of a local JwJ chapter:          the CWA national office to provide             and drove them across the country in
     fight for labor rights, primarily through                                                    some assistance, and in 1991 , the             ambulances. We did an event with the
                                                   I remember being at the [rally] debrief
     “I’ll Be There” pledges, where workers                                                       union assigned one of its telephone            ambulance, filled it up with ballots and
                                                   meeting afterwards and saying some-
     and supporters showed up five times                                                                                                         sent it out across. We wrapped the Blue
                                                   thing about wanting to make it real, but       company technicians, Harold Brook-
                                                                                                                                                 Cross/Blue Shield building in red tape
     a year for someone else’s struggle.26         the AFL wasn’t doing anything about it.        ins, to help. As Butler recalled, at           [to dramatize the inefficiency of private
           The Oregon AFL-CIO understood           At the same time . . . we had been meet-       the same time, some members of                 insurers]. . . . .
     the appeal of JwJ in addressing the           ing as the Oregon AFL-CIO organizing           the multi-racial Portland Rainbow                   So we had a steering committee
                                                   committee for a while. The AFL-CIO had                                                        made up of people from different orga-
     sudden loss of unionized jobs, espe-                                                         Coalition, including Jamie Partridge
                                                   put one penny of each person’s per cap-                                                       nizations who made decisions about
     cially in Oregon’s timber industry,           ita [dues] payments towards an orga-           and Bob Gross, were also working
                                                                                                                                                 what we were going to turn people
     which was closing Oregon mills and            nizing fund, so there was this money,          to mobilize labor groups.29 Together,          out for. . . . Besides healthcare, we did
     shedding thousands of positions.              maybe $10,000 a year . . . that was            they launched Portland JwJ. “People            support for an organizing campaign
     Competition from southern and Cana-           supposed to go to organizing. Well, they       wanted to set up Jobs with Justices to         that Lorene [Scheer] was running for the
     dian forests, falling wood-products           spent the money on “Union YES” bill-                                                          Teamsters [Local 206]. . . . They had this
                                                                                                  figure out a way to make use of all the
                                                   boards [and had a booth at] the Oregon                                                        organizing campaign at the Resort at
     prices, demand from Japan for whole                                                          pledgers and get them out for actions,
                                                   State Fair. So those of us on the organiz-                                                    the Mountain. They weren’t successful
     (rather than sawed) logs, exhaustion          ing committee really wanted to spend           that was really it. There was nothing
                                                                                                                                                 but they did a whole bunch of actions
     of private timber lands, and new envi-        it on something that would actually            about organizational structure or              pressuring the Portland [Oregon] Visi-
     ronmental regulations on federal lands        help unions organize. This is how I met        anything. . . . So, we created the least       tors Association [POVA], pressuring the
     devastated many Northwest timber              Rich [Peppers, with SEIU] and Lorene           amount of structure we could have.”            resort. One of them that I remember that
                                                   Scheer [then with Amalgamated Cloth-                                                          we did was a golf-in [laughs] and some
     communities and local unions.27 On                                                           In its first years, Portland JwJ focused
                                                   ing and Textile Workers Union]. . . . We                                                      people signed up to play really slow golf
     June 8, 1988, the state labor federation      all had a similar vision of wanting the        on supporting local labor actions and
                                                                                                                                                 and interfere with the resort.
     staged a rally in downtown Portland           Oregon AFL-CIO to actually support             “common good” campaigns — what
     to draw visibility to the jobs crisis, pro-   organizing, because what was going             historian Joseph McCartin has called           The mostly Latino workers at the
     vide a forum for workers to tell their        on all through the 1980s was this huge         “efforts to fuse the interests of union        resort had voted to unionize but did
     stories, and sign up people on pledge         decline in union membership, and we            and community” — through publicly              not yet have a contract, and to help
                                                   thought that was terrible. . . . [the other]
     cards to call them out for particular                                                        visible and creative protests. 30 But-         pressure management, JwJ and the
                                                   thing, in the late 1980s I was building
     labor actions. A wide range of union          this whole mobilization structure inside       ler described how the group made               union recruited “bad golfers” to play
     members and supporters attended,              the CWA, because I thought that was a          decisions about actions to initiate or         on a sunny Saturday when other
     carrying signs in support of various          really good idea too! [Laughs]. . . . [The     support:                                       golfers would likely complain. JwJ

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Sociologist Ruth Milkman argues, how-          [Portland JwJ] did a sit-in at the NLRB
                                                                                             ever, by the late twentieth century, the       offices. . . . We planned this action and
                                                                                             NLRB had become a “cruel charade” as           had about 100 people come and only
                                                                                                                                            two of us had signed up to get arrested
                                                                                             employers learned to manipulate the
                                                                                                                                            at the time, me and Rick Ball, who was
                                                                                             system to stymie union campaigns.34            an organizer for SEIU 49. But when the
                                                                                             In 1993, labor activists responded by          time came, and the police came . . . nine
                                                                                             organizing the National Day of Action          people got arrested, including my friend
                                                                                             for Labor Law Reform and protesting            Anne Sweet, who [laughs] had been
                                                                                             at NLRB offices around the country.            telling me for weeks ahead of time, ‘I’m
                                                                                                                                            not going to get arrested . . . you don’t
                                                                                             They demanded “real penalties for
                                                                                                                                            know what they do to Black people in
                                                                                             law-breaking employers, and majority           jail.’ I said, ‘Don’t get arrested. That’s
                                                                                             sign-up recognition” — that is, union          fine, just come to the rally’ . . . [laughs]
                                                                                             recognition when a majority of work-           but when they asked her to leave, [she]
                                                                                             ers voted for a union in a fair election       said ‘no!’ She got so into it.
                                                                                             without employer interference.35 But-              While pregnant in 1994, Butler was
                                                                                             ler described her experiences with
                                                                                                                                            working on a CWA campaign in Seattle
                                                                                             the labor board and the JwJ protest
                                                                                                                                            and participating in JwJ protests when
                                                                                             actions, where she and a few others
                                                                                                                                            in Portland. After the CWA victory in
     MARGARET BUTLER stands with Anne Sweet (right) and an unknown person at a benefit       were arrested for refusing to leave
     walk for the Cascade AIDS project, which took place sometime between 1986 and 1990.
                                                                                                                                            Seattle, she returned home, just before
                                                                                             the lobby of Portland’s KOIN building:
                                                                                                                                            her daughter Lorene Anne Butler was
                                                                                             The NLRB was so bad. . . . In Medford,         born and in time to join JwJ actions to
                                                                                             we [the CWA] filed for the [Trend College]     support United Food and Commercial
                                                                                             election with the NLRB [in November            Workers (UFCW) strikers at Fred Meyer
                                                                                             1992] with something like 75 percent
     also helped organize a protest — with       [International Brotherhood of] Teamsters                                                   grocery stores who were demanding
                                                                                             support . . . and they were just going
     balloons and rock music — in front          [Local] 206 was trying to create a one-                                                    to preserve the principle of seniority
                                                                                             to wait on it. And the employer was
     of POVA.31 Butler described how she         on-one structure.32 . . . .There was some
                                                                                             [putting pressure on individual workers].      and the right for senior employees to
                                                 encouragement . . . to get back to the
     and other JwJ activists believed such                                                   So, in January [1993] we got our hear-         maintain full-time schedules.37
                                                 basics of really talking to every member
     creative actions could bring attention                                                  ing. . . . Then they wanted briefs. So, I
                                                 about what was going on. . . . I think we                                                  J with J had this whole group of people
     to workers’ issues in ways that unions                                                  had to write a brief, and with no lawyer,
                                                 thought we were making a difference,                                                       from the labor movement who wanted
                                                                                             but Monica Smith who was a labor
     had failed to do:                           pretty much from the beginning. . . . We                                                   to help [with the strike]. . . . I remember
                                                                                             lawyer in town got contracted to help
                                                 wanted to be bigger so we could make                                                       Amy Steer was the Organizing Director
     We wanted to build the organizing                                                       me. . . . So, we turned in our briefs. Then
                                                 more of a [difference].                                                                    at [SEIU] 503 and she and others came
     model. Too many unions were stuck                                                       the NLRB said ‘we didn’t get enough
     in servicing and being junior lawyers.                                                  information in the hearing. We have to do      up with this idea of doing a can and
                                                     Many union activists and labor
     We wanted to spread the gospel of                                                       another hearing.’ So, the delays were just     bottle return. This was before they had
                                                 scholars believe that, by the 1980s, the    terrible, and we lost the election by one      [returns] outside . . . we had this can
     organizing and mobilizing members
     and creating a strong labor movement.       National Labor Relations Board (NLRB)       vote on April Fool’s Day. It was terrible.     and bottle return day and took up all of
     At the time we started the Jobs with        had become ineffectual and often            That was in ’93. That was my learning          this space . . . and time talking to peo-
     Justice chapter, that wasn’t necessarily    hampered union organizing, elections,       campaign. . . . It just made me mad, that      ple . . . everyone went across the picket
     that popular yet. Now most people will                                                  things are so stacked against workers. It      line to return their cans and bottles to
                                                 and bargaining.33 The NLRB never pro-
     at least pay lip service to those other                                                 was just so unfair. Those people should        give the scabs [workers not supporting
                                                 tected farmworkers or domestic work-        have had a union. . . .36                      the strike] a bad time. [laughs]
     ideas, even if they don’t implement them.
     In ’89, when I was doing the mobilization   ers, but it had once been the protector          In 1993, there was the National               It was really fun to be at home without
     work [for CWA]. . . . only Tom Leedham at   of workers in many other industries. As     Day of Action for Labor Law Reform.            any [CWA] campaigns hanging over me,

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[to] clean up paperwork and work with J      also asked unions for office space, and       that didn’t happen until later because           People would say, ‘oh, we just learned
     with J while I waited for my baby to come.   AFSCME decided to donate it to us. . . .39    we were getting so many requests that            so much’ from us. Part of it was us trying
     I was over at the picket line a lot, over          We were putting together this job       we decided . . . the requesting organi-          to bring people along. And even when
     at the [Fred Meyer] store. It was really     description to hire somebody for J with       zations . . . needed to do more than just        they didn’t agree all the way, that was
     fun. Then I took a 9-month [unpaid] baby     J. I thought, “I don’t want to be on the      show up and say will you do this. . . . We       fine. We worked hard on that, talking to
     leave. Lorene was born in November of        road all the time” [and working 70 hrs        had [to consider]: How will this action          people and bringing them along.
     ’94 and I did some J with J stuff while I    per week for CWA]. But I could work with      help build Jobs with Justice? Will it get us          Eventually we set up a process for
     was off.38                                   Jobs with Justice part-time and I could be    new pledges? Will it get us new money?           dealing with controversial issues, which I
                                                  at home. I could do the work I loved and      How will it help J with J?. . .                  think is still being used, where we would
     Butler’s relief at staying home for a        still do the lean-in counseling [co-coun-         We tried to do as many things as we          send a mailing to all our member organi-
     period and working on a local cam-           seling]. I could still exercise and have      were asked to do as we could. There              zations ahead of time, warning them that
     paign made her reconsider continuing         friends, not just be a mom and a union        wasn’t a direct connection between what          in the next month the steering committee
                                                  organizer and that’s all. I just thought      we did and funding. . . . [We were] sup-         would be talking about it. Then inviting
     a life of travel and long hours as a
                                                  Jobs with Justice fit my skill set better     porting other people to make a thousand          them to come and talking to people
     national union organizer. She returned       than doing campaign after campaign on         flowers bloom, because people loved              ahead of time. So, we got the Firefight-
     to CWA in the fall of 1995, and like other   the road. . . . I was trying to think about   getting to do what they wanted to do             ers and some of the more conservative
     women in the labor movement, found           what made sense for my life. It was hard.     under the banner of Jobs with Justice.           unions who usually abstained when it
     that combining union organizing work         I did feel torn in half, especially when I    So, we tried a bunch of different things.        was something they didn’t feel like their
                                                  was [away from my daughter]. . . . So, I                                                       members could necessarily support. The
     with parenting was challenging and                                                         Throughout the interview, Butler
                                                  applied for the job. I don’t know who else                                                     Teamsters too sometimes. . . . We did a
     exhausting. Her husband Rich Peppers         they interviewed but I was hired.             acknowledged conflict within the                 bunch of work on police accountability.
     was SEIU political director, so he also                                                    movement and stressed how she and                It was stretching the definition of work-
     worked long hours and was often              With two paid organizers hired — Butler                                                        ers’ rights. . . . We were always figuring
                                                                                                the organization kept focused on the
     away in Salem. At the same time, JwJ         in April 1996 and Nancy Haque in Janu-                                                         out how we could help people move
                                                                                                primary goals of building relationships
     was planning to raise funds to move          ary 1997 — JwJ expanded its networks                                                           as much as we could together. It didn’t
                                                                                                to strengthen the larger movement
                                                  and actions. The coalition became                                                              always work. . . .
     from an all-volunteer coalition to hire                                                    for workers’ rights, regardless of
                                                  more involved in local and state                                                                    But the unions generally liked our
     staff and expand its outreach. She                                                         differences in personalities, political          participation in things. With some orga-
     explained the JwJ transition and how         activities, and its capacity stretched.
                                                                                                orientations, strategic perspectives,            nizations, there was a lot of pulling
     she was hired in April 1996 to become        Butler described how leaders devel-                                                            teeth. With others, they gave a lot of
                                                                                                and identities. She felt that she brought
     its first paid organizer:                    oped JwJ’s organizational structure                                                            money anyway. SEIU always asked for
                                                                                                some skills, based on her years of
                                                  and made decisions about whether to                                                            a lot, lots of support. . . . There was still
     We decided to take ourselves more                                                          organizing and co-counseling, to help            a bunch of more conservative unions —
                                                  support different campaigns.
     seriously, coming out of the UFCW                                                          build these relationships and “lead us           you know, the building trades just didn’t
     strike at Fred Meyer. Really, that was       The Steering Committee became . . . all       into handling conflicts well,” empha-            like us from the beginning. . . . We even-
     it. We felt like we had played a critical    the member organizations of Jobs with         sizing to rivals that they were allies in        tually got the Carpenters engaged in a
     role, and we should be more than just a      Justice, plus six people elected at-large     the larger struggle.                             pretty big way. We built better relation-
     loose network of people. . . . It was the    so that there was community representa-                                                        ships with a lot of [the trades], including
     end of ’95 that we had a meeting and         tion from people who weren’t necessarily      Somebody once said that we were the              the electrical workers. But the electrical
     we decided to move to the next level         in any organization. The Steering Com-        conscience of the labor movement. We             workers . . . because their strategy was
     of organization. We went to the unions       mittee met every month and voted on           certainly have helped build real soli-           to work with the employers, they never
     and asked for money . . . asked them         which actions to support, at which level      darity, I would say. There are all sorts         joined Jobs with Justice. [Most of the
     to make regular contributions to Jobs        of support. Eventually we worked out a        of ways that we’ve thought about that            challenges were] about the politics.
     with Justice. And they said ‘yes.’ It was    whole process, where people needed to         strategically. . . . If we did a full mobili-    Making sure we were thoughtful and
     easier than we thought it was going to       fill out a form ahead of time, and explain    zation, eventually we came up with this          didn’t piss off or set ourselves up as an
     be! We also decided to set up a monthly      how it built the movement, what they          process of, we would send a postcard             alternate labor council. The [Northwest
     sustainer program. That was our name         were willing to do to support the action      to everyone on the list. So we would             Oregon] Labor Council didn’t like us that
     for it. [laughs] It made me laugh when       or other people, how it fought racism,        have to do a mailing party . . . we would        much anyway. But I was always really
     other [organizations] started using it. We   and we had a whole set of questions. But      invite [unions] and some lefty radicals.         careful about relationships.

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Rights Committee, supported VOZ                    we did so much. They provided money
                                                                                                   Workers Education Project and work-                to have a coordinator. . . . But most of
                                                                                                   ers’ center, and joined local campaigns            the petition’s signatures were gathered
                                                                                                                                                      by volunteers. . . . Leslie Kochan, who
                                                                                                   for police accountability.44                       helped organize her union at AFSCME, in
                                                                                                        Butler emphasized, “I wanted the              DEQ . . . got a grant for Jobs with Justice
                                                                                                   work on racism to be primary. We were              and we got funding to do economics
                                                                                                   always trying to make Jobs with Justice            education around the minimum wage
                                                                                                   not so White, which was a struggle                 campaign [in 1996]. We did all of these
                                                                                                                                                      trainings for petitioners. That helped set
                                                                                                   all the time, maintaining relationships
                                                                                                                                                      the context for them.
                                                                                                   with a few people of color in the labor
                                                                                                   movement, bringing them in, and                    Oregon voters approved Measure
                                                                                                   building the organization were really              36 in November 1996 , raising the
                                                                                                   what I was focused on.” Beginning in               statewide minimum wage to $6.50 an
                                                                                                   1995, Portland JwJ launched a major                hour. Together with thirty-five labor,
                                                                                                   effort to support low-wage workers,                religious, and community groups, JwJ
                                                                                                   including many workers of color, by                also successfully convinced the city
                                                                                                   increasing Oregon’s and Multnomah                  of Portland, in 1996, and Multnomah
                                                                                                   County’s minimum wage. Together                    County, in 1998, to raise the minimum
     IN LATE OCTOBER 1996, documentary filmmaker Michael Moore attended a Jobs
                                                                                                   with the Rainbow Coalition and state               wage for service contractors, requiring
     with Justice rally in Portland, Oregon, in support of raising the state’s minimum wage.
                                                                                                   labor unions, JwJ mobilized its con-               contractors to raise wages and provide
     Here, protesters gather in the Rose Quarter after first stopping at Tony Roma’s restaurant.
                                                                                                   stituencies to participate in trainings            benefits for its low-wage workers,
                                                                                                   and educational forums, collect and                including janitors, security guards, and
                                                                                                   deliver petitions, pressure the state              parking attendants — positions often
                                                                                                   legislature, and directly appeal to vot-           held by workers of color.46
         Along with strengthening ties to          struggled to attract people of color.           ers to raise the state’s minimum wage                   By 1999, Portland JwJ was con-
     the organized labor community, Butler         Harold Brookins, a JwJ co-founder                                                                  sidered a vital supporter of labor and
                                                                                                   through the initiative process.
     and JwJ activists made fighting racism        and Black CWA activist, noted that “the                                                            social justice struggles, so it was no
     a primary activity. The formation of          fact is, there are not many people of           The Rainbow Coalition was a member
                                                                                                                                                      surprise that Powell’s Books workers
     Portland JwJ in 1991 included in its                                                          organization of J with J, [and] it . . . spear-
                                                   color in Northwest unions,” and JwJ                                                                —who had no previous union expe-
                                                                                                   headed building a living wage coalition.
     Statement of Purpose that, in addition        and CWA often had to reach out to                                                                  rience — turned to the coalition for
                                                                                                   Living wage campaigns were just starting
     to pledging to defend workers’ rights         “national folks” to provide anti-racist         up. . . . We had a Living Wage lobby day           assistance in establishing workplace
     and supporting each other’s struggles,        trainers.42 As historian Nikki Mandell          [at the state capitol]. . . . There were           representation. The Powell’s Books
     the organization would “focus on              observes, this anti-racism agenda was           about five or six bills that we were lob-
                                                                                                                                                      campaign involved a broad communi-
     abuse of civil rights and the struggles                                                       bying for.45 None of them got a hearing.
                                                   “both inward- and outward-looking.”43                                                              ty-labor coalition that helped workers
     of exploited workers and their com-                                                           Avel Gordly was the [state represen-
                                                   In addition to providing trainings for          tative] that was carrying the minimum              organize the first union at the world’s
     munities, especially people of color,         White staff and members and recruiting                                                             largest independent bookseller and
                                                                                                   wage bill and she felt very strongly and
     immigrants and women.” 40 Butler              people of color to meaningful roles             really mad at the Republicans who held             showcased JwJ’s ability to employ a
     indicated that as JwJ grew, “we tried         in the organization, JwJ actively sup-          the legislature, I think they were running         variety of tactics and turn out large
     to deal with structural racism within                                                         both chambers at the time, [and] wouldn’t
                                                   ported the struggles of Black, Latinx,                                                             groups of people to support workers.47
     JwJ and had lots of trainings . . . and                                                       even give it a hearing. We decided to do
                                                   and immigrant workers. It worked on             an initiative petition to raise the minimum        About the same time, the Portland coa-
     tried to put communities of color at          minimum-wage and immigrant-rights                                                                  lition formed the Workers’ Rights Board
                                                                                                   wage in 1996. The unions got on board
     the center.”41 Still, the organization        campaigns, formed an Immigrant                  and they took it over in some ways, but            (WRB), based on an idea that had been

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spreading across the national JwJ net-      campaign [that I was] really proud of. I
     work. WRBs consisted of community           could tell it made an ongoing difference
     leaders who could be called on to hear      in our community. The workers at Powell’s
                                                 decided to organize . . . in 1999. They con-
     and bring attention to worker testimony
                                                 tacted us and we helped them go union
     when negotiations broke down.               shopping. They met with several different
         Union activists credit the events       unions and decided they wanted to go
     of May Day 2000, International Long-        with the [ILWU] because the Longshore
     shore and Warehouse Union (ILWU)            would let them have their own local. And
     muscle, and the JwJ Workers’ Rights         the Longshore has a huge democratic
                                                 tradition. So that’s what they decided.
     Board hearing as turning the tide for
                                                      I think they did the organizing in ’99
     the Powell’s union’s efforts to bargain     into 2000. Then the contract campaign
     a contract.48 Portland activists involved   was 2000 on. So, we did a bunch of
     with the 1999 World Trade Organiza-         actions, inside and outside the [Powell’s]
     tion (WTO) protests in Seattle decided      store for many months. It was really fun.
     to revive the tradition of recognizing      Mary Winzig was the President of the
                                                 [ILWU] Local [5]. . . . She was a really
     May Day (May 1) as International Work-
                                                 awesome leader. The organizing cam-
     ers’ Day. Since 1889, that holiday had      paign, they won a close vote. There
     honored workers worldwide, except           was at least one person fired. [Owner]
     in the United States, by commemo-           Michael Powell sent out a bunch of anti-
     rating radicals convicted and hung          union stuff to the workers. . . . Through-
                                                 out the contract campaign, he had been          AT THE JULY 2000 JwJ annual meeting, Mary Winzig, then president of the ILWU Local
     for a bombing that killed some police
                                                 saying that there would never be a              5 (left) stands with Margaret Butler just after hearing the news that workers bargained a
     in Chicago during a demonstration
                                                 closed shop at his store, that it was a civil   union contract at Powell’s bookstore in Portland.
     demanding the eight-hour workday.           rights issue, that people would not be
     Activist groups who planned the May         forced to pay [union] dues. He was going
     Day march and five hundred ILWU             to have an open shop. He was not going
     delegates gathering for their annual        to have a union security clause in the              We waited and waited and waited.           wants to meet with some Workers’ Rights
                                                 contract. Well, this was unacceptable to        Michael Powell never had cops come.            Board people. So, Marty Hart-Landsberg
     convention in Portland all decided to
                                                 the union. So, that was an issue. Wages         Anyway, it was quite something. So, all of     and Diane and Diane and somebody
     support an action by the union’s Local                                                      these things had been tried to pressure        else from the hearing panel . . . go to
                                                 and benefits were issues. So we decided
     5 in front of Powell’s Books. Before        this would be the first hearing of the          Powell’s to settle the contract. . . . We      this meeting with Michael Powell. At that
     the May Day marchers could reach            Portland area Workers’ Rights Board. . . .      had done so many things and Michael            meeting, he basically said he wanted to
     the bookstore, police beat, arrested,            It was May Day [2000] . . . the year       Powell never called the police on us,          get a contract. And he said he knew that
     or dispersed them. 49 The police            that the cops tear-gassed and beat peo-         no matter how long we were in the              any contract that was settled was going
                                                 ple and broke up the demonstration. We          store, [laughs] because he didn’t want         to include a union security clause. . . . We
     declined to halt the hundreds of ILWU
                                                 had a May Day march that was focused            that publicity outside the store. . . . The    were at the National J with J conference
     demonstrators who made their way to                                                         Workers’ Rights Board wrote [Powell] a         in [July 2000] Massachusetts, I think,
                                                 on different workers’ rights issues, includ-
     Powell’s for a dramatic rally, replete      ing health [care] and immigrant rights.         letter and said, ‘We would like to meet        when it was settled. Mary Winzig was
     with giant puppets; three days later,       Ramon Ramirez from the [Pineros y Cam-          with you to talk about it.’ [Powell said]      there, too. I remember just screaming!
     Longshore workers and others in the         pesinos Unidos del Noroeste, or PCUN]           ‘No, it’s not your business. We are going      I was just so excited. That was really
     labor movement returned for a “Hands        Farmworkers spoke.51. . . . There were all      to settle at the bargaining table. No, I       great, yeah. And we had to fight again,
                                                 of these kids and families and they [the        won’t come to the hearing.’ So the day of      the next contract, as well. By the third
     Around Powell’s” action.50
                                                 police] sprayed tear gas at everybody.          the hearing, he calls Diane Linn, who was      contract, Michael Powell was saying,
     When I saw you had a question about         They hardly gave them any notice. I had         on the [Multnomah] County Commission           “I don’t want anyone inside the store
     a particular [memorable] campaign, it       left because I was going to Powell’s to do      and Workers’ Rights Board, and Diane           or outside the store. I want to get this
     was definitely the Powell’s Bookstore       a sit-in inside.                                Rosenbaum [WRB chair] and says he              settled.”

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Butler recalled that JwJ had many             threatened to sue Jobs with Justice
     victories during the 2000s, but they          [for using the “Grinch” as the theme].
                                                   It was really a fun idea. It came from
     were often fleeting, due to the mobil-
                                                   some other [JwJ] coalition. It started             2009 “SCROOGE OF THE YEAR”
     ity of capital and employers’ ability                                                       Carole Smith, Superintendent of Portland Public Schools
                                                   and then it spread through the network.
     to resist union efforts, de-unionize, or      Every December, we would have a party
     shut down altogether. Butler recalled         where we elected the worst boss of the
                                                                                                     In the cold of December as Christmas drew near
     some of the important campaigns               year and we presented them with the
     during those years, both wins and             Grinch or the Scrooge of the Year Award.          In Portland’s great schools a Grinch did appear
                                                   I always wrote a Dr. Seuss poem for the       Removed from the classrooms’ daily triumphs and pain
     losses, including a long strike by
                                                   presentation. . . . .
     United Auto Workers that eventually               The way it worked was you paid
                                                                                                  Somewhere deep inside her she lost sight of the main
     ended with management closing the             for votes [for Scrooge of the Year]. You    Ways in which schools reached their goals and do their work
     plant in Tigard; the success of the           bought a ticket to the party for fifteen         That’s through excellent teachers who never shirk
     Parry Center for Children’s organiz-          bucks and you got fifteen votes with it.
                                                   Then you could buy more votes at the            Increases in class size and stress and state testing
     ing campaign; and the unsuccessful
                                                   party. And if a union really wanted [its            Will work at a fast pace with so little resting
     campaign to organize workers at
                                                   nominee] to win, it would come in with a       Yet this Grinch has offered longer hours and furloughs
     Providence Health System. Alongside           big check and bought all the votes. So
     those campaigns, JwJ was continu-             we said, ‘Corporate style democracy,                Teachers have said no to what you propose
     ing its community support work and            the more money you have the more                    We call on this Grinch to let your heart grow
     establishing important traditions.            votes you get!’ [laughs] It was very fun.
                                                                                                        Honor your workers and not just for show
                                                   We raised two to three thousand dol-
     In 2006 . . . there was another May Day       lars every time. Then every “nominee”                 Think of the teachers who day after day
     march . . . that was the Day Without an       for Scrooge or Grinch of the Year had              Work with our children, don’t send them away
     Immigrant march. . . . We were involved       an opportunity to do a skit at the party
     in the planning of it. We helped lead                                                             Without a fair contract, let’s settle this quick
                                                   or make a presentation to try and get
     it. . . . [U.S. Rep. Jim] Sensenbrenner       votes. Some of those were hilarious and             The election in January will be here in a tick
     had a bill in Congress that would have        really good. That still goes on. Then we         We should work together and put First things first
     come down really hard on anyone who           had an annual dinner every year and a
     supported undocumented people in any                                                         Contract now then the ballot or things will get worse.
                                                   Salsa Party every year in September. We
     way. So, the whole immigrant community        did a silent auction with that and raised       In the past loyal teachers have been key to winning
     was up, and all over the country there        about three thousand dollars with that          These measures which set all our heads to spinning
     were huge marches, and in Portland            as well. That was fun. Those were the
     there were 40,000 people, and it was the      traditions.                                   Teachers have phonebanked and canvassed each time
     biggest, most amazing thing. . . .                                                          Made sure schools are supported fought for each dime.
           I was really pleased with all of the        Much of JwJ’s work happened in
                                                                                                       Let’s settle the contract and all stand united
     things we were able to accomplish. And        committees, which members formed to
     the ways in which we used solidarity to                                                            Working together we’d sure be delighted
                                                   work in coalition with other social jus-
     help educate people and help them get                                                          To make sure each supporter gets out in the field
                                                   tice groups and to focus on important
     a broader view of what we were fighting
     and what we were up against. I think we       issues, such as healthcare, racial jus-              Standing together what power we wield.
     did a good job of that as well. We did        tice, and climate. The Immigrant Rights          We call on the school board and Superintendent
     it through social events [such as] our        Committee worked on campaigns and                Support the teachers and get this breach mended
     annual dinner. . . . It was great. We would   supported the VOZ Workers Education
     do a slideshow of all the stuff we had                                                        Let’s see your heart grow as you bargain this week
                                                   Project and workers’ center.52 Butler
     done and fun we had had. . . .                                                                 The fair contract now that our dear teachers seek.
           We had things we did every year. The    was particularly proud of helping initi-
     fundraisers every year . . . became the       ate the Faith Labor Committee in 2003,                               — Poem by Margaret Butler
     Scrooge party after Dr. Seuss’s estate        to expand and deepen relationships

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with faith communities and involve           action together out of it. . . . There were   the time’. . . . When Wisconsin [protests      Professors (AAUP) Oregon in October
      them more in the work of JwJ. Those          two or three follow-up things that hap-       over Gov. Scott Walker’s attempts to           2014. AAUP attracted her because it
                                                   pened but it didn’t work the way that we      curb unions] happened, we did three            was organizing both unions and asso-
      relationships also drew JwJ, and the
                                                   hoped it would work. . . . What we were       solidarity rallies with Wisconsin. We
      labor movement more broadly, into                                                                                                         ciations — that is, it was developing
                                                   hoping to do was to be able to break          were so excited that there was this huge
      faith justice struggles, which included      out of the thousand people or so that         thing going on and that they were get-         chapters at universities and colleges
      the issue of wage theft, the church-         we could mobilize and be able to take         ting solidarity from all over the world. It    that did not have union recognition in
      based Sanctuary Movement that                to the streets in a much bigger way. One      seemed really exciting. Then ‘Occupy’          order to build worker power, some-
      supported immigrant workers, and             of the things that came out of it, that was   [nationwide Wall Street protests over          thing she believed needed to be a
                                                   good, was what we call the Portland           economic inequality], too. All of these
      the ongoing work of the Albina Min-                                                                                                       priority in the labor movement. She
                                                   Rising Project, [a project promoting good     things, we put a lot of energy into doing
      isterial Alliance Coalition for Justice      jobs, a strong public sector, and healthy     stuff with [Portland] Occupy.
                                                                                                                                                retired in May 2017 and has remained
      and Police Reform.53 “I really do think      communities] which I’m sure is still going                                                   active in worker and climate justice
      it made a difference in that we really       on . . . 54                                   MADELINE BISGYER: How do you                   movements in Portland.
      had a set of faith leaders that we could          The key [to mobilizing] was having a     feel about how those things sort of                 Margaret Butler’s reminiscences
                                                   group of leaders who were connected to        ended up?                                      are important for understanding how
      go to. I think doing the faith labor work,
                                                   each other, and trusted each other, and
      they felt it was more of a two-way street                                                  Well, we did not succeed in doing what
                                                                                                                                                she became a labor activist and leader
                                                   could make decisions to move. . . . We
      than just asking them to serve on the        were able to move pretty quickly when         we had wanted to do, and that was not          as well as how a key social justice
      Workers’ Rights Board here and be a          we needed to. There were times when           so great. . . . But I would get up at the J    organization addressed the economic
      faith person there.”                         something would come up and I would           with J dinners and say things like, ‘the       challenges of the late twentieth and
                                                   [say] ‘Oh no, there is no way we can do       unjust system we are a part of works           early twenty-first centuries. Her words
          The 2008 economic crisis pre-                                                          to keep people separated. So every
                                                   that. We have ten things we are already                                                      reveal that as an organizer — in a job
      sented even greater challenges to the        doing. NO. NO. NO.’ Then somebody             time we stand up for each other, we
      labor movement. Because of its net-                                                        take a step towards a better society,          notorious for burning out even the
                                                   would convince me that we have to.
      works and relationships, JwJ was able        [laughs] That if we don’t do this, it won’t   because capitalism wants us to be              most committed people — she kept
      to respond quickly, if not successfully,     happen, and somebody needs to be out          just workers and consumers and when            her “eyes on the prize” and found joy
                                                   there in public about this. I remember        we build these relationships and take          in the relationships she formed and the
      to the moment. Butler recalled both
                                                   quite often, especially with Jobs with        action together, we are transforming           actions she took to improve workers’
      enormous possibilities that the crisis       Justice, where you have so many things        something there.’ And it got bigger every
                                                                                                                                                lives.55 Portland JwJ influenced local
      presented and frustrations about the         going on at the same time, it’s easy to       year. So, yeah, that was good. We can’t
                                                                                                 measure our victories only by the out-         and regional workplace struggles and
      limits of coalition work and reflected       feel like we were overwhelmed, we’re
                                                   stretched too thin . . . and we needed        comes because everything is temporary          politics as well as a national move-
      on how she measured success.
                                                   to focus more, but things would happen        and easily taken away. So, you have to         ment that linked labor and community
      In 2008, when things happened fast and       where you just have to do it. I sort of       measure your success by how many               groups in coalition. Both successes and
      there was the [federal] bailout going        felt that way when the United Students        pledgers, how many people are turning          setbacks marked these years, but as
      through, we did actions right away.          Against Sweatshops came to us with            out, how many organizations, and what
                                                                                                                                                Butler emphasized, “we can’t measure
      Basically our message was, ‘Why are          the Nike hearing. ‘No. We really can’t        are you building.
      you bailing [bankers] out? You should be     add this to the plan. Here it is, a month
                                                                                                                                                our victories only by the outcomes.” She
      putting more money towards the people        away, and you want us to do this?’ They       In 2011, which marked the twentieth            hinted that the struggles sow the seeds
      hurt by this whole thing. Where’s our        said they would do all of the work — yes      anniversary of Portland JwJ, Butler            for potential change in the future, some-
      bailout?’. . . We did an economic crisis     and no — but it was completely worth          began thinking about transitioning to          thing difficult to measure in the present.
      town hall in January of 2009. . . . What     doing. It was a really good thing to do       other work and opening space for new           In reflecting on the accomplishments
      we were doing was giving people a            and . . . we were really bad at getting
                                                                                                 leadership. She helped the coalition           and disappointments of JwJ, and on the
      frame for this economic crisis we were       media attention — and that one got lots
      in. We had 850 people who came to it.        of media attention because it was Nike.       through some rough transitions and             lack of democracy and income inequal-
      We were trying to get a common sort               So we did all these things to try and    then was hired as Executive Director of        ities that accompany capitalism’s power
      of understanding and commitment to           build bigger. We kept thinking, ‘now is       the American Association of University         and persistence, Butler concluded that

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