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April 2021, V56, #4 The Carbide Dump
April 2021
Vol 56, No 4
28 The Carbide Dump April 2021, V56, #4
The Carbide Dump is published monthly by the Blue Ridge Grotto of the National Speleological Society in Roanoke, Virginia. Distribution date
is approximately the second week of each month. An issue may be skipped if insufficient material is received. Contributions of articles and
artwork are invited and will be gratefully acknowledged. Art work originals will be returned. Contributions should be sent to the editor. Regular
and associate grotto membership ($10) includes a Carbide Dump subscription. Subscriber rate is $10.00. Exchanges with other grotto and caving
organizations are invited. Direct exchange mail to Mary Sue Socky.
EXCHANGE MAIL EDITORS TRIP COORDINATOR
Mary Sue Socky David & Mary Sue Socky Susan Burr
6572 Woodbrook Dr 6572 Woodbrook Dr 4544 Cordell Dr SW
Roanoke, VA 24018-5402 Roanoke, VA 24018-5402 Roanoke, VA 24018
H: (540) 989-7693 H: (540) 989-7693 H:540-989-5809
email: sockymss@cox.net email: sockydr@cox.net or sockymss@cox.net email: pondlady97@gmail.com
The Blue Ridge Grotto holds its monthly meetings every third Friday of the month at 7:00 pm. Meetings are virtual for
now. See the Grotto meeting announcement in this issue.
GROTTO OFFICERS AND COMMITTEES
Chairman Vice-Chair Secretary Treasurer Safety & Techniques
Marian McConnell Lauren Appel Mary Sue Socky David Socky Dan McConnell
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Copyright 2021 by the Blue Ridge Grotto
Contributors: David & Mary Sue Socky, Bob Gulden, Marian McConnell, Meredith H. Weberg, Bob Alderson, Nick Socky,
Bill Koerschner and Jerry Fuller.
Cover: “Max Cave Slug” Formation in virgin passage in Maxwelton Sink Cave, WV. Photo by David Socky
Treasure's Report
Apr 16: BRG Zoom meeting. 7:00 pm 03/19/2021
Apr 17: Last day to vote for your Cave Bucks $ 146.00 Twenty-one members and friends at-
Favorite Five newsletter covers! Conservation $ 0.00 tended the March 19, 2021 BRG
Equipment $ 133.87 ZOOM Meeting.
May 21: BRG Zoom meeting. 7:00 pm General $3,491.79
Total $3,771.66 The program, was a slide show on
May 28-31: Speleofest, Lone Star Cave Dave Socky’s “Recent Cave Trips -
Preserve, Bonnieville, KY. hosted by adventures in McClung Cave (WV)
the Louisville Grotto. Pre-registration is Maxwelton Cave (WV) and Roppel
encouraged; special rules may apply. Cave, KY.
For more info, see Speleofest.com
If you have not received your 2021 BRG
Membership packets, please contact Mary
June 18: BRG Zoom meeting. 7:00 pm Long Cave Lists Sue Socky sockymss@cox.net
July 25- July 30, 2021: Virtual NSS maintained by Bob Gulden
USA Long & Deep, World Long & Know of a potential caver? Bring them
Convention, from Weed, CA. See the to a BRG meeting, sponsor them on a
website: http://nss2021.caves.org/ Deep, & World Big Rooms
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www.caverbob.com/usadeep.htm the best cavers around ~
Aug 13-15, 2021: Karst-O-Rama – at
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Great Saltpetre Cave Preserve, Mt.
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Cave Softly and Safely
Vernon, KY. KOR is hosted by the
Greater Cincinnati Grotto with pre- www.caverbob.com/wdeep.htm
registration discounts and info available
soon! For more information, see our
website at: http://karstorama.com/
Sept 17-19: FALL VAR 2021 at the
RASS Field station in Bath Co. VA.
April 2021, V56, #4 The Carbide Dump 29
Carl Cornett, long-time BRG member,
is also an avid bicyclist and has ridden
across the USA multiple times. His last
The April 16, 2021 meeting of the Blue trip was cancelled unexpectedly, due to
Ridge Grotto will be held as a virtual personal issues of the couple leading the
Lowmoor Cave, intersecting an aban- trip (the woman drives the car). They
Zoom meeting. The meeting starts at
doned limestone mine, has 5.8 miles of had made it from St. Augustine, FL to
7:00 pm. See the announcement on
passage. Lots of walking, mazes, just inside AL but then had to come
page 30 for link information. Also, as a
crawling, and even some cool for- home. Things have been resolved so
reminder, the link will be sent out be-
mation areas. There are some places in today (4-2-2021) they are driving to San
fore each meeting.
the cave that require climbing and Diego, CA (their original destination)
The program this month will be a 1990 some exposure, but most of the cave is which will take about 3 days, and com-
NSS slide show on Locomotive Breath horizontal and makes for an excellent plete the trip back from west to east (CA
Cave, VA beginner trip. This is a fun and mostly to AL). They changed it to avoid the
easy cave. worst of the heat of the desert they have
to cross out west. Carl is safe and doing
well; his usual "energizer bunny" self!
(Report from Marian McConnell.)
Date & Time: Saturday, April 17, NSS Virtual Convention - The NSS
2021. Meet at Hanging Rock Orange has officially announced that the 2021
Market at 8:30 am. convention has been moved to an online
platform. While details are still forth-
Leader: Doug Feller coming, the NSS virtual convention will
Coordination: Susan Burr 540-580-9409 take place the week of July 26th, 2021.
pondlady97@gmail.com The official release is below. For contin-
ued updates please check back soon on
Requirements: Horizontal trip. Basic the official NSS Convention website.
caving gear. Beginner cave trip. Please Click here for the Press Release. Click
contact Susan Burr to sign up. here for the Convention Website.
Limits: 15 cavers. SPECIAL BOG MEETING 4-19-
Ed Saugstad in Lowmoor. Photo 2021 - The NSS's Board of Governors
by Dave Socky (BOG) is having a special meeting on
Monday, April 19, 2021. It will be at 7
p.m. Central time, which is 8 p.m. East-
ern (I'm pretty sure). All are welcome to
join the Zoom meeting. Zoom details
BRG Meeting Minutes – can be read will be posted to caves.org closer to the
A New Home for BRG? Everyone is meeting. The agenda is here at the fol-
on the BRG webpage at: adjusting to ZOOM, but eventually we
https://blueridgegrotto.org under the lowing link: NSS_BOG_Agenda. If you
will be able to hold in-person meetings are running for the BOG, you might
‘BRG Organization’ button. again. WHERE? We can try to return to want to attend this meeting. If you are
NSS Membership: Jersey Lily’s in Salem, VA. Or we can interested in how the NSS runs, you
Would you like to join or find a new place to meet. It does not might want to attend this meeting. All
renew with the NSS? See have to be a restaurant; we have held are welcome at any open BOG meeting.
this link for details. meetings in a classroom, a fire station, I'm making this announcement now be-
and at member’s houses. Must be 3rd cause a lot of cavers seemed like they
Closed Caves: Remember that some Friday of the month evening meeting. think the BOG operates in secrecy when
caves are closed in the winter for bats. NEEDED: a FREE convenient place, we do not. Many were surprised by the
Please respect all cave closures. private meeting room with a TV and Wi- move to not print the Members Manu-
VA-Winter closure dates: Oct.15-Apr.15. Fi. If a restaurant, food service for 20 or al anymore. I posted on Facebook that I
WV - Winter closure dates: Sep.1 – May 15. so, and no rental charge if everyone or- would try to let y'all know in plenty of
ders food. Non-Smoking place is a re- time about meetings. Here is your notice.
Vote for Your Favorite Five! Each quirement! Report any suggestions to Thanks, Meredith Hall Weberg, BOG
year, Carbide Dump covers win awards the BRG Officers. Member.
in the NSS Convention. BRG cavers
know how to select the winners! Vote QUESTION: Would you be willing to
for your favorite five covers (or one attend an “In Person” BRG meeting?
cover five times). Covers are in the Jan.
and Feb. 2021 Carbide Dumps. Send Cave Bucks: Thanks to following
votes to sockymss@cox.net Vote well cavers for donating to Cave Bucks!
& vote often! Contest deadline is April Lynn Ott and Gene Harrison, Kevin
17, 2021. Johnson and Carrie Doupnik, and Dave
Socky.
30 The Carbide Dump April 2021, V56, #4
NSS BOG Updates (from Meredith
Blue Ridge Grotto Virtual Zoom Meeting(s) Weberg, BOG Member):
Time: Every month on the Third Friday, until Dec17, 2021, 13 occurrences, at 7:00
pm (Eastern Time - US and Canada). • NSS BOG meeting recently decided
to drop the printed NSS Member’s
April 16, 2021 07:00 PM Sept 17, 2021 07:00 PM Manual. You can access the Mem-
May 21,2021 07:00 PM Oct 15, 2021 07:00 PM ber’s Manual on the current NSS
June 18, 2021 07:00 PM Nov 19, 2021 07:00 PM Website (under Member Portal, not
July 16, 2021 07:00 PM Dec 17, 2021 07:00 PM Publications). Some folks are work-
Aug 20, 2021 07:00 PM ing to make a hardcopy printed NSS
directory available. It will be basic,
Please download and import the following iCalendar (.ics) files to your calendar sys- not glossy, and may be at an addi-
tem for the monthly BRG meeting by clicking on this link. tional cost.
Join Zoom Meeting by clicking here https://zoom.us/j/99370232398 • Geary Schindel was chosen as the
NSS President for 2021.
Meeting ID: 993 7023 2398 Dial by your location
One tap mobile +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) • NSS BOG has created a “LO” Land
+16699006833,,99370232398# US (San Jose) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) Owner designation, and is offering a
+12532158782,,99370232398# US (Tacoma) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) membership discount to cave own-
+1 929 205 6099 US (New York) ers who join the NSS.
Find your local number: +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington D.C)
https://zoom.us/u/aO8P1uRz +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) • NSS BOG voted to reimburse JSS
participants for their extra activities
fee or something like that.
Great Savannah Cave System General info ➢ Major areas left are:
McClung Cave ➢ Bat Bone Crawl is done except for
• Side passages to west of Mega-
lithia
Survey Status - Dave Socky the WVACS Room. • Seven Fingers
➢ The loop between Freeman Avenue
Statistics and First and Second Breakdown is
• Crystal Canyon
done • Christmas Passage
➢ McClung total resurvey length is ➢ The Historic Entrance Canyon is
12.21 miles (well over halfway • Lower levels between Megalithia
done except for about 300 feet (to tie and Liberty Bell Ave
done). in the hanging survey)
➢ Of the resurvey, 2.72 miles is new
➢ Current survey is taking place in
cave. large side leads to the west of Mega-
➢ Some, but not much, of that ‘new lithia.
cave’ was virgin.
➢ Total length of McClung (old survey
+ new cave) is 20.73 miles.
• This number is used in conjunc-
tion with Maxwelton, to come up
with the ‘official’ length of the
Great Savannah Cave System
• Great Savannah Cave System is
now 46.76 miles (20.73 + 26.03)
➢ 59 cavers have participated on the
new survey, with 29 on more than Portion of current working
one trip. map of McClung Cave, WV.
➢ Total of 46 trips have occurred for This is a section far west of
the resurvey. the Megalithia Passage. Two
hours to get here.
➢ The resurvey has been going on for Cartography by David Socky
four years now.
➢ In 2020, there were 21 trips. So far
for 2021, there has been 14 trips.
April 2021, V56, #4 The Carbide Dump 31
The ICE Survey in McClung Cave
Great Savannah Cave System
February 17, 2021 by
Bill Koerschner already covered our aide climb into a passage that looks like
meet and entrance time story so I don’t it has a good limestone ceiling. (Since
need to repeat any of that. The trip to the this survey, Bob and Nick returned to
Liberty Bell room was typically mun- this area. One bolt climb led to 200 feet
dane. While we were discussing how to of virgin cave, but ended in mud fill. The
organize into survey teams, Nicky Socky other bolt climb was completed, and
did an eight foot climb up over for- virgin passage still awaits… Editor)
mations and a slippery ledge into a On the way back out Nick climbed up
walking passage leading to the south into a lead at ICE8 that went north for
above the shale. Since he was up there, about 30 feet before ending: Another
we decided to survey it which broke the scooped passage that had not been sur-
crews down to Dave, Bill, and Joe mak- veyed.
ing up a team for the Quixotic quest for
the elusive Aragonite Room, and I We went to the next lead in the DAD
climbed up to survey with Nick. survey at DAD29. The canyon became
too tight after a couple of stations at the
Starting at LSB11 we surveyed up into DAD survey level but we found a way to
the lead which shortly became a hands climb up and continue. The passage
and knees crawl and finally a belly eventually dropped back down. The can-
crawl. From the lip of the drop off it yon went mostly NE as walking passage,
went about 58 feet, splitting at the end,
going over the occasional block of break
straight into mud fill and turning sharply
down. We stopped at ICE34 to have
left over a trickle of muddy water and
time to meet up with the others back in
turning back right into a small tight can-
the Liberty Bell Passage at 7:00PM. The
yon about 1.5 feet high varying 6 to 10
passage continues, through a short
inches wide with little horizontal ledges.
crawlway it opens up again and contin-
It was too tight to pursue and did not
ues as a meandering passage.
Bob Alderson looking up at bolt
climb. Photo by Nick Socky.
have noticeable air. Nick rigged a pull
down with webbing so we could arm
rappel down the 15 foot pour off next to
the climb. We were unable to pull the
webbing down so Nick climbed back up
to rig it differently so we could pull it
down. The passage was not virgin but it
had not been previously surveyed.
Next, we moved on down the DAD sur-
vey toward Megalith, bypassing the first
crawlway on the right going to the can-
yon coming in from the NE at DAD34.
Starting with ICE5 it went two stations
SE and then turned NE. It ended in a
dome room about 35’ high. ICE12 is
below a tributary waterfall coming out
of the ceiling at the south end of the
room. A ledge around the north end of
the room is about 15’ below a canyon
lead looking like it heads NE. While
Nick was sketching the complicated
room I used the mason’s hammer to
make a trail against the north wall over
to a ledge, SW, above the lower passage
Bob Alderson in first high lead. we had come in by. A further climb
Photo by Nick Socky went to a ledge at ICE15 below a 10
Aragonite. Photo by Nick Socky.
32 The Carbide Dump April 2021, V56, #4
The Aragonite Room in McClung Cave
Great Savannah Cave System
February 17, 2021 by
Participants: Bill Koerschner, Dave The North end of the Aragonite Room
Socky, and Joe Zokaites. has a major display of flowstone col-
umns and twisty stalactites. Some of
Objective: Wrap up survey of Liber- these are encrusted on their upwind side
ty Bell Avenue. with aragonite crystals. The whole pas-
We met at the cave at 10 am with our sage is noticeably colder and puffs of
cave clothes already on and managed to cool air could be felt coming from the
get into the cave at 10:15 am. We trav- end of the passage. This is consistent
eled together with Nick Socky and Bob with conditions favorable for the deposi-
Alderson to Liberty Bell Avenue (LBA) tion of aragonite. The passage continues
and dropped them off at LBS11 to pur- up a BD cone into an upper room that
sue a canyon lead above an 8ft waterfall. terminates in a debris cone with flow-
Our first objective was to locate the stone. Opposite the cone and directly
Aragonite Room, which is shown on the above where you enter the upper room
old map with a note saying “go straight there is a 0.5Hx10W crawl at ceiling
down through hole.” At noon we began level. Joe shot the DistoX 45ft at 218
our ARM survey at a likely looking hole deg into the crawl. I initially dismissed
with major ‘elephant tracks’ located this as a tensional gap above a sagging
along the left wall below LBS28. This breakdown slab but closer examination
went down a tight BD slot into a wall- revealed the floor is laminated clay fill
parallel fissure that went nowhere. Ap- several feet thick over gravel. This is a
parently, the hordes seeking the pretties nearly-filled paleo-passage and is proba- In the Aragonite Room.
in the elusive Aragonite Room had made bly the same one that crosses LBA at Photo by Dave Socky.
the same mistake. ceiling level at LBS13. This is worth an
exploratory dig but will be hard to ac- of the trip surveying in circles until we
We searched further along the wall and reached the final hole in the rimstone
cess safely due to its location.
soon located the correct hole across from floor. This drops 4ft to the steam near a
LBS29. A short squeeze through BD Our next lead was the paleo drain to the body-sized hole at the top of a waterfall
opens into a 20ft wide stoopwalk pas- right of LBS22. This dry, gravel-floored into a lower canyon. There are scuff
sage with a floor of mud-coated flow- drain ended at a pour-off into a previ- marks in the hole with indicate that this
stone and walls encrusted with masses of ously surveyed side lead and we were is the place that Shawn Hogbin emerged
white aragonite. To the right is a able to close the loop and kill two leads. from during his explorations of the low-
splashy waterfall dropping into an 8 ft We then worked on the dig at LBS25. er levels in this area. We set our final
pit. A stream flows South in a trench Here we busted out a clay ridge that was station (ARM50) where it can be easily
along the right wall and connects obscuring view of the continuation of seen from below. It should be possible
through a bellycrawl to the base of the the passage. After about 30 minutes we to drop the pit on the route to Megalithia
pit. The stream exits the base of the pit had opened a big enough gap to see that and survey back upstream to close this
into a bellycrawl in water blocked by the floor on the far side dropped away loop. We emerged from the BD into the
chip BD. This dig is a low priority as only slightly into a crystal-lined rim- overlying room to eat and dress for exit
this water reappears at the base of the stone pool (dry) and then rose steadily just as Bob and Nick returned from their
BD slope in LBA. up a flowstone slope until the floor survey objectives. We reached the sur-
met the ceiling about 17 ft beyond. face at 8:30pm after a productive 10.25
Totally hopeless. hour trip.
We retreated to LBS7 and surveyed
the lower stream passage that is iso-
lated from LBA below a false floor of
rimstone-cemented breakdown. We
were able to survey this all the way
back to the start of LBA at LBS1.
After making the tie-in, we continued
ahead into a crawlway above the rim-
stone floor as the stream could no
longer be followed. We passed sev-
eral holes that connect down to the
stream but the lower passage was
Joe Zokaites at the white flowstone impassable. At ARM40 we entered a
just past the Liberty Bell. Photo by maze of breakdown and spent the rest Joe Zokaites in Aragonite Room.
Dave Socky Photo by Dave Socky.
April 2021, V56, #4 The Carbide Dump 33
along with the geology. Joe didn't
2/20: Paxton Cave VA (in addition to 2/28: Roppel Cave, KY. David Socky, mind doing point, while Dave
the official trip report in the March Bob Alderson, Bill Koerschner, and sketched plan and Carol & Tisha did
2021 DUMP): Nick Schmalenberger Holly McClintock. We went in the instruments. We got 1141 feet in 9
said the trip was fun, and it was a Weller entrance and out to Popcorn Al- hours of survey.
winter scene, with snow and ice all ley. Outside, it rained 4 inches. Inside
over the trees at the top of Potts Mt. the cave - there was LOTS of water. At 3/11: Maxwelton Cave, WV. David
Jeff Huffman related how he and the bottom of the third ladder, we found Socky, Nick Socky, and Joe Zokaites.
Doug Feller tried going “a more diffi- a veritable torrent running directly down We continued pushing leads only 20
cult way” through a slippery canyon. the fourth long ladder. We would get minutes into Maxwelton Cave. Nick
Jeff ended up with “Turf Toe” – from soaked to the bone, so we donned rain- did another bolt traverse, but this one
hyperextending his left toe to stay out coats and plastic bags. Even with all the was a bust – a flowstone choke. We
of the bottom of the canyon. water, our survey was mostly dry, with cleaned up a few other easy mop-up
the end of the trip pushing dry tight survey tasks and then continued the
2/20: McClung Cave, WV. David survey in the narrow canyon Nick and
crawlways which Dave didn’t fit into.
Socky and Joe Zokaites. We surveyed Dave had explored a month ago. More
Again, we surveyed some new cave, but
the last undone passage in Batbone virgin cave, which continued for an-
Crawl and then went to survey the every lead got too tight, even for Kirsch.
other 300 feet before we were stopped
major side lead in the Junction Con- 3/1: Roppel Cave, KY. David Socky, by a flowstone pinch.
nector passage (GDS survey at Bob Alderson, Bill Koerschner, and Jim
GDS25) which was supposed to have Borden. Went in the Daleo Entrance. 3/13: Dry Cave, WV. David Socky,
100+ of unsurveyed passage. Holly McClintock came to the entrance David Smallwood, Matteo Bucalossi,
but didn't go on the trip. We went back Nikki Fox, Greg Springer, and Joe
2/27: Roppel Cave, KY. David Zokaites. Dave Smallwood, Matteo,
to where Bob, Alex Faunce, and Dave
Socky, Bob Alderson, and Bill and Dave Socky made up the entrance
had surveyed last year (2020) over Me-
Koerschner. Went into the Weller room team. The rest started surveying
morial Day weekend. It took us 2 hours
entrance past Stonehenge, the Fleece- from the start of the water. Our en-
and 20 minutes to get to the survey. It
way, and other locations and eventu- trance survey actually got some virgin
was a long trip, but not really hard. And
ally ended up at the Princess B sur- cave. Dave Smallwood crawled
we got to survey in big passage this
vey. Vertical gear was required to get through a really tight loop in the en-
time!
to our lead, which was a tight, narrow, trance room, and then pushed a lead
high canyon, where we surveyed 3/6: McClung Cave, WV. David going south. It will take some tech-
mostly through the top. It was also Socky, Tisha Springer, Bill Koerschner, nical digging, but it goes and has
floorless most of the way. We were Joe Zokaites, and Carol Zokaites. We good air flow. The other team sur-
stopped by a flowstone pinch. We surveyed from the historic entrance to- veyed 53 stations in the stream pas-
couldn’t get past the 4 inches of space wards First Breakdown (yes, a hanging sage. After surveying, we went past
to continue. We surveyed about 300 survey). It was a team of five, but it the Blowhole to change out Greg’s
feet of virgin cave on a fun 10 hour worked out well because Bill did a great depth probe. All in all, it was a good
trip. job of doing profile and cross sections 12-hour trip.
According to the Galax Fire Department, Teams began their searches, and the hikers
tones were set at 9:25 p.m. Monday alerting were located by 10:13 p.m., alive and well.
(From some cavers’ email list serve) to three missing persons in the 3000 block of
Iron Ridge Road. At that time, the Carroll Removing them from the caves took another
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 45 minutes. All units as well as the hikers
County Sheriff’s Office requested the Galax
I live in this area, and as said in the video, Volunteer Fire Department, Pipers Gap Res- were back at the Command Post by 11:30
cell service is pretty spotty on top of the cue Squad and Baywood Search and Rescue p.m. Blacksburg Rescue was canceled in
ground there. These folks were very lucky Squad to provide manpower to search for route, the Galax Fire Department spokes-
their cell phone caught enough signal to get three missing female hikers. person said. Some 60 Twin County first
help. I very seldom hear of mine rescues in responders worked seamlessly to affect a
the area. Cave rescues are far more com- The hikers had entered the old, abandoned positive outcome to an extremely difficult
mon in this area. Iron Mines around 6 p.m. and became una- incident.”
ble to get back out. Thankfully, they found a
The mine in question is most certainly the ventilation shift where they were able to get Link to local newspaper
Iron Ridge Mine, known through history as one bar on a cellphone and call for help, Link to video newscast from nearby city
Bumbarger Pit, Great Outburst Mine, Huey according to a spokesman with the Galax
Pit, and Monarat Mine. Fire Department. A command post was es-
From the news reports: tablished at Midway Baptist Church. Teams
were formed, including a search dog from
"Three female hikers are safe after being Galax Police Department.
rescued Monday night from the old Iron
Ridge mines in Carroll County. The Blacksburg Technical Rescue cave res-
cue team was requested to respond as well.
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